V-dub-R

I have just received e-mail from Bilstein Germany:


Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards,

Jessica Wacker
Vertrieb Innendienst BU-AM

ThyssenKrupp Bilstein Tuning GmbH
Milsper Straße 214
58256 Ennepetal
Germany

ff54976

has anyone rode/drive a tsx with the b12 kit and the ht spec form and function type 2 kit? anyone able to tell the unbaised differences between the two? maybe marcus?

Cyde

Is there any update? did they ever really contact the USA rep and were they able to help you and get you a set?

I've been trying the last year, going to over a dozen tuner shops and Bilstein dealers In Canada and in the USA.... and NONE! of them can get the b12 tuning kit or b12 pro kit for the CL9.

I'm so desperate, that i'm flying to UK and driving to Germany at the end of august, and I'll buy them there if I have to. ...just need to find an English speak Bilstein shop when i get there .

feuss2

iTrader: (1)

I experienced the same. Just order it from any shop in europe that will ship it here.

soichiro91

Hi,

I'm french and i discovered your very interesting thread when i was looking for information about b12 kit for Acura TSX.

congratulations for this modification. Your car is beautiful.

I would like to know if after mounting this kit you needed a front camber kit ? (for not use the tires on the insides edges)

I thank you very much for your answer.

Cyde

The B12 pro kit finally arrived this morning, just dealing with some customs issues and FedEx.

I found a place in UK That could do the 20% VAT off Tax exemption and was willing to ship it to Canada.

cost only $750CAD ($714 USD)

I had an E24 form, from Canadian Customs, so i have no duty or taxes to pay on this side either.


Thank you guys for all your help!

I will post pictures and updates later.

bmwproboi05

how the ride compared to tein cst?

SLIKRIK

According to the OP, firm but smooth.

The Tein CST's are the plushest suspension available for the TSX.

feuss2

iTrader: (1)

Any update?

V-dub-R

Honestly I gave up on this kit after several months of waiting, I still don't know if the new updated set is in production. I bought KW coilovers instead, they are absolutely amazing and this is coming from a 40 year old guy with the back problem.

calvintwr

advantages of b12:
1) progressive spring rate. means it gets firmer under aggressive compression. makes it reasonably good for track as well.
2) fact that it's spring/damper makes it more long lasting, rightfully.

disadvantages:
1) it's hard! full stop. i think it behaves like a 10kgf front and 8kgf rear. it's nowhere close to a beemer-comfort/performance susp. it's a SPORTS suspension essentially. yes it will piss off your gf and mother-in-law. especially if they sit in the rear.
2) height drop is not ideal. 3/4" - 1" more would have been awesome.

i give it 2.5 out of 5 stars as a street suspension. it has more use for track i feel.

feuss2

iTrader: (1)

Are you reviewing the B12 Tuning Kit or the B12 Pro Kit?

calvintwr

tuning kit.

Cyde

Almost to the finish line, just a few more parts to come, few issues need to settle.

feuss2

iTrader: (1)

This is going to be good!

zmelli

This is my First and important post. I just ordered a set of the shocks that are listed in this kit. A different vendor told me the shocks will not fit! please read the email I received and advise if you needed to modify or if the Kit was a direct bolt-in for a 2006 TSX

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Rick,

The B12 kit is not sold in the US for similar reasons. The kit in the link is a Euro spec kit, and This was discovered a few years ago when we actually sold a set of these shocks and the rears did not physically fit in the vehicle. I believe that the major issue is that the Euro spec car used a different spring with a different spring diameter, so the stock US spec springs will not fit on the spring perch that is included, and it also ends up at the wrong ride height because the lower spring perch is also in the wrong place on the shock for the US spec cars. It is unclear from the pictures, but I would be astounded if there wasn’t some modification required to the upper spring perch and spring mount to install this kit on the car in the thread you mentioned. It is a much bigger issue than just a light leveling issue.

I would not recommend these shocks for your car. Bilstein used to sell these shocks here for North American spec cars, and now they do not, because they do not work on the US spec cars. The part numbers confirm that these shocks are the same ones that used to be sold as BE5-A730 and BE5-A731, and are no longer listed as an approved application.

Thanks,"

zmelli

I did notice that the above email stated the Rear as BE5-A731, I did not order that shock for the rear I ordered, BE5-A793 AKA new P/N 24-107945 Front is now 24-107327

feuss2

iTrader: (1)

Cite your source and what qualifies them please. I have the B12 tuning kit in my car, and know others that do...

zmelli

I would not recommend these shocks for your car. Bilstein used to sell these shocks here for North American spec cars, and now they do not, because they do not work on the US spec cars. The part numbers confirm that these shocks are the same ones that used to be sold as BE5-A730 and BE5-A731, and are no longer listed as an approved application.

Thanks,
Kevin Foote
Sales
www.Allshocks.comwww.Allsprings.comwww.TurnerMotorsport.com
kfoote@ allshocks.com/turnermotorsport.com
(978) 388-7769 x160

zmelli

So you did not need to perform any modification on a U.S Spec TSX when installing the Kit? Did the suspension align without a camber kit? Thank you.

feuss2

iTrader: (1)

I did not modify a B12 tuning kit. Marcus (aka Mr Heeltoe) also installed this kit for a customer.

The tuning kit has been replaced with a B12 Pro Kit, which I have no information about.

You need a rear camber kit to get in spec.

zmelli

The problem is that the B12 Kit, at least the one pictured here uses a smaller spring than the stock rear spring, therefore their will be a fitmet issue ordering just the rear shock alone.

The newer B-12 Kit may have different shock P/Ns that the older B-12 Tuning kit. Best to get the complete kit if possible.

zmelli

What are the P/Ns on these Pro-Kit shocks?

zmelli

I just went ahead and ordered the full Pro-Kit.

Chad05TL

subscribed.

V-dub-R

They have them on German eBay (eBay.de)
Type in 'Honda Accord VIII B12 Pro' or Honda Accord CL B12 Pro' you'll get many hits. CL7 is a 2.0L 16v and CL9 is 2.4L same one as we have in N/A. Basically you're looking for Accord 8 or VIII. CM model is a Tourer (wagon).
Use translate.google if needed.
Hope that helps someone.

http://www.n2o-tuning.com/images/pro...0/200764-2.jpg

zmelli

I installed the Kit, Amazing ride quality with a firm yet not bouncy ride. Lowers just a little more 5mm in the rear than the 06 A-spec Kit. Worth every penny get this kit if you value driving dynamics over looks.

Sorry for the crappy pic.