Adjusting Tein coilovers
04-12-2005, 09:43 PM
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Adjusting Tein coilovers
A question for all the Tein SS and Flex owners. The instructions say the hardest setting is full clockwise, and they're supposed to come from the factory at this setting. It however also says do not turn past the last position as it might cause daamge.
I'm a little confused, does the dial stop at the hardest setting like it does for the softest, full counter-clockwise? I've been too scared to see how far it'll go, so I've been resetting to softest and then counting to 16 as I turn clockwise. But I swear there is more clicks left to turn after I reach 16... is it possible to go beyond 16?
I'm a little confused, does the dial stop at the hardest setting like it does for the softest, full counter-clockwise? I've been too scared to see how far it'll go, so I've been resetting to softest and then counting to 16 as I turn clockwise. But I swear there is more clicks left to turn after I reach 16... is it possible to go beyond 16?
i turned it 16 times and stopped b/c i saw the same thing
04-12-2005, 10:26 PM
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I did turn it past 16 clicks to see how far it would go. It turns out I can go about 28 clicks front and 27 clicks rear. The firmest setting is fully clockwise and softest fully counter-clockwise. #1 click being fully clockwise. I ended up with #8 front and #7 rear.
One thing I notice is the tension on the adjustment knob not being consistent. When I had the Konis, the adjustments weren't clicks but rather friction, and it was relatively consistent. The adjustment knob on the Flex sometimes is silky smooth but sometimes it's pretty difficult to turn. It feels like it got stuck on an indent. Applying more force will rotate it out of the indent and it becomes smooth again.
Btw, LannyM contacted Tein and was told if you go past 16, something internal might fall apart and require full disassemble of the unit .
One thing I notice is the tension on the adjustment knob not being consistent. When I had the Konis, the adjustments weren't clicks but rather friction, and it was relatively consistent. The adjustment knob on the Flex sometimes is silky smooth but sometimes it's pretty difficult to turn. It feels like it got stuck on an indent. Applying more force will rotate it out of the indent and it becomes smooth again.
Btw, LannyM contacted Tein and was told if you go past 16, something internal might fall apart and require full disassemble of the unit .
04-12-2005, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by JTso
I did turn it past 16 clicks to see how far it would go. It turns out I can go about 28 clicks front and 27 clicks rear. The firmest setting is fully clockwise and softest fully counter-clockwise. #1 click being fully clockwise. I ended up with #8 front and #7 rear.
One thing I notice is the tension on the adjustment knob not being consistent. When I had the Konis, the adjustments weren't clicks but rather friction, and it was relatively consistent. The adjustment knob on the Flex sometimes is silky smooth but sometimes it's pretty difficult to turn. It feels like it got stuck on an indent. Applying more force will rotate it out of the indent and it becomes smooth again.
Btw, LannyM contacted Tein and was told if you go past 16, something internal might fall apart and require full disassemble of the unit .
One thing I notice is the tension on the adjustment knob not being consistent. When I had the Konis, the adjustments weren't clicks but rather friction, and it was relatively consistent. The adjustment knob on the Flex sometimes is silky smooth but sometimes it's pretty difficult to turn. It feels like it got stuck on an indent. Applying more force will rotate it out of the indent and it becomes smooth again.
Btw, LannyM contacted Tein and was told if you go past 16, something internal might fall apart and require full disassemble of the unit .
they shoulda put some kind of stop mechanism
what dorks
oh well, i have edfc
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04-12-2005, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JTso
I did turn it past 16 clicks to see how far it would go. It turns out I can go about 28 clicks front and 27 clicks rear. The firmest setting is fully clockwise and softest fully counter-clockwise. #1 click being fully clockwise. I ended up with #8 front and #7 rear.
One thing I notice is the tension on the adjustment knob not being consistent. When I had the Konis, the adjustments weren't clicks but rather friction, and it was relatively consistent. The adjustment knob on the Flex sometimes is silky smooth but sometimes it's pretty difficult to turn. It feels like it got stuck on an indent. Applying more force will rotate it out of the indent and it becomes smooth again.
Btw, LannyM contacted Tein and was told if you go past 16, something internal might fall apart and require full disassemble of the unit .
One thing I notice is the tension on the adjustment knob not being consistent. When I had the Konis, the adjustments weren't clicks but rather friction, and it was relatively consistent. The adjustment knob on the Flex sometimes is silky smooth but sometimes it's pretty difficult to turn. It feels like it got stuck on an indent. Applying more force will rotate it out of the indent and it becomes smooth again.
Btw, LannyM contacted Tein and was told if you go past 16, something internal might fall apart and require full disassemble of the unit .
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Originally Posted by //JDMTSX//
going under 16 is in the service area which is not good .... you shouldn't go lower thats what the tein dealer told me.
04-12-2005, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JTso
I think the confusion is how people reference firm and soft. I reference fully clockwise (firmest) being #1 and softest being #16. However, on the Konis, fully counter-clockwise is the firmest.
04-12-2005, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JTso
I think the confusion is how people reference firm and soft. I reference fully clockwise (firmest) being #1 and softest being #16. However, on the Konis, fully counter-clockwise is the firmest.
looks like I've been doing it wrong the entire time, crap. I've turned it fully counter-clockwise many times, but it was so soft I turned it up to 16 from counter... which is something like 12 from clockwise. I'll have to make sure not to do that again. I don't think anything fell out ...
04-13-2005, 06:34 PM
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I'm no expert here, but I've owned 3 different sets of TEIN coilover and the oldest one (since 1998) is still in my Prelude. I bought it when TEIN wasn't even popular here in U.S. So I've gone through what you guys are asking. Here is what it should be.
Full stiff = full clockwise. When adjusting your shocks, ALWAYS start from full stiff then count back the clicks. Do not go over the 16th click (the softest). It won't hurt the shock immediately if you go pass that, but if they stay that way for a while, internal damage may develop. Also, when turning the knob all the way to clockwise position, don't force it after it stops. You should turn the knob back until it clicks. This is the full stiff setting. Start counting from here.
Back in the late 90s, I was told that the stiffest setting should be #16, but for the past several years, I have heard the opposite. So I don't care what other say, I always call full stiff as 16, full soft as 1. And when I tell people what my settings are, I'll tell them that 16 is the stiffest, and my settings are such and such. So in my TSX, I set my FLEX at 10f/8r (16 being full stiff).
Hope this helps.
Full stiff = full clockwise. When adjusting your shocks, ALWAYS start from full stiff then count back the clicks. Do not go over the 16th click (the softest). It won't hurt the shock immediately if you go pass that, but if they stay that way for a while, internal damage may develop. Also, when turning the knob all the way to clockwise position, don't force it after it stops. You should turn the knob back until it clicks. This is the full stiff setting. Start counting from here.
Back in the late 90s, I was told that the stiffest setting should be #16, but for the past several years, I have heard the opposite. So I don't care what other say, I always call full stiff as 16, full soft as 1. And when I tell people what my settings are, I'll tell them that 16 is the stiffest, and my settings are such and such. So in my TSX, I set my FLEX at 10f/8r (16 being full stiff).
Hope this helps.
04-13-2005, 10:33 PM
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The man above is correct. This was a question just a couple days ago on another forum and since I have the old Tein HA's on my Supra, I was paying attention to what's right. It was info posted right from Tein. Go full CW for hardest and count back from there.
04-13-2005, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by vwong
I'm no expert here, but I've owned 3 different sets of TEIN coilover and the oldest one (since 1998) is still in my Prelude. I bought it when TEIN wasn't even popular here in U.S. So I've gone through what you guys are asking. Here is what it should be.
Full stiff = full clockwise. When adjusting your shocks, ALWAYS start from full stiff then count back the clicks. Do not go over the 16th click (the softest). It won't hurt the shock immediately if you go pass that, but if they stay that way for a while, internal damage may develop. Also, when turning the knob all the way to clockwise position, don't force it after it stops. You should turn the knob back until it clicks. This is the full stiff setting. Start counting from here.
Back in the late 90s, I was told that the stiffest setting should be #16, but for the past several years, I have heard the opposite. So I don't care what other say, I always call full stiff as 16, full soft as 1. And when I tell people what my settings are, I'll tell them that 16 is the stiffest, and my settings are such and such. So in my TSX, I set my FLEX at 10f/8r (16 being full stiff).
Hope this helps.
Full stiff = full clockwise. When adjusting your shocks, ALWAYS start from full stiff then count back the clicks. Do not go over the 16th click (the softest). It won't hurt the shock immediately if you go pass that, but if they stay that way for a while, internal damage may develop. Also, when turning the knob all the way to clockwise position, don't force it after it stops. You should turn the knob back until it clicks. This is the full stiff setting. Start counting from here.
Back in the late 90s, I was told that the stiffest setting should be #16, but for the past several years, I have heard the opposite. So I don't care what other say, I always call full stiff as 16, full soft as 1. And when I tell people what my settings are, I'll tell them that 16 is the stiffest, and my settings are such and such. So in my TSX, I set my FLEX at 10f/8r (16 being full stiff).
Hope this helps.
jk
well i have the edfc, when you reset it (turn off power) the edfc defaults to 0, which it says is the stiffest setting.
it's true b/c when it is at 0 - you cant even push my car down at all.
i think it evens says that 0 is the stiffest in the edfc manual.
i'm at 12. full soft is cool for a while b/c it resembles stock quality - but it's too mushy.
06-11-2005, 03:21 AM
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Bringing this back for some additional info. I was at the shop today for the dyno and came across the EDFC display as well as the Tein catalog. The EDFC Soft button has a + which increases the number and the adjustment turns counter-clockwise. The Hard button has a - which decreases the number and turns clockwise. The settings match the description in the catalog. Mystery solved.
06-12-2005, 01:57 AM
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Also wanted to add a little tid bit JTso told me about when he installed mine. Drill a hole in the back seat to adjust the rear coilovers like in this pic...it makes life so much easier and you don't have to pull the car apart to adjust them.
06-12-2005, 02:09 AM
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What EDFC setting does the TIEN basic come in? Does the car handle significantly better than
stock? Does it handle any worse than the SS? Besides the EDFC what is the advantage of the
SS and Flex Coilovers? Sorry, but I'm only 17 and I'm quite a n00b at suspension mods... Some
help would be great.
stock? Does it handle any worse than the SS? Besides the EDFC what is the advantage of the
SS and Flex Coilovers? Sorry, but I'm only 17 and I'm quite a n00b at suspension mods... Some
help would be great.
06-12-2005, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackAc036
Sorry for the 3 posts, but what are the upper pillow ball mounts? Aren't they standard on the SS and FLEX models, but not on the BASIC...
06-12-2005, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackAc036
Can you buy the Basic and order a metal pillow ball mount? Then will you use anything on the OEM suspension?
06-12-2005, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackAc036
So is the ONLY difference between the SS and Basic the EDFC, if so (What EDFC does the Basic come with?)
06-12-2005, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackAc036
Alright, gotcha, so how do you adjust dampening force on the SS? Is it set a certain way for the Basic?
06-13-2005, 01:20 PM
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Thanks for all the help, I'm going to place an order on the Basic's. Correct me if I'm wrong: The Basic is height adjustable and the only difference between IT and the SS coilovers is the dampening adjustment feature, which comes stock at lvl 8 for the BASIC... Do I have it straight?
06-13-2005, 01:32 PM
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Sounds about right! But I would suggest the SS over the Basics. It's nice to be able to adjust the dampening. You may only do it once in a while, but it's worth it. At least to me it is.
06-13-2005, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackAc036
Thanks for all the help, I'm going to place an order on the Basic's. Correct me if I'm wrong: The Basic is height adjustable and the only difference between IT and the SS coilovers is the dampening adjustment feature, which comes stock at lvl 8 for the BASIC... Do I have it straight?
06-14-2005, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by xizor
you got it right. honestly from members on the board, they say they never change their settings once its adjusted, so the SS might be overkill if you don't tweak it often
It's up to you, good luck and happy purchase!
06-14-2005, 02:59 PM
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Just ordered my TIEN BASIC kit from MrHeelToe seconds ago and should be receiving it in a week, I'll keep you guys posted and I'll take some before and after pics of the car...
06-14-2005, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackAc036
Just ordered my TIEN BASIC kit from MrHeelToe seconds ago and should be receiving it in a week, I'll keep you guys posted and I'll take some before and after pics of the car...
06-14-2005, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackAc036
You can get them from Mr. Heel Toe for $685 shipped... just PM him, tell him BlackAc036 sent you.
06-16-2005, 10:03 AM
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okay, i still have a quesiton.
so r we suppose to turn it all the way counter-clockwise or all the way clockwise first before counting the clicks?
so r we suppose to turn it all the way counter-clockwise or all the way clockwise first before counting the clicks?