Jackson Racing says the TSX is "very, very high on our list."
10-07-2003, 07:26 PM
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Jackson Racing says the TSX is "very, very high on our list."
I just read an article over at Honda Tuning Magazine's website discussing the new supercharger kits for the Civic-Si and RSX Type-S. It's an excellent article and discusses the possible gains the blower might produce for the two cars in stock trim form and with upgrades to the intake, header, exhaust, and ECU. For example, Jackson's prototype Type-S with all of the aforementioned upgrades and the blower put down 258 hp and 165lb-ft torque at the wheels. Anyway, at the very end of the article, the Jackson rep. commented that a supercharger for the k24 is already in the works and that the TSX is quote: "very, very high on our list." I just thought I would share that bit of encouraging information.
10-07-2003, 08:07 PM
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if JacksonRacing do come out with a supercharger kit, I think that will also mean that Hondata came out with some ECU flash for our car like the supercharged Si project.
last time i heard, Hondata has no plan to work on our ECU yet coz of how different it is from other Hondas(i guess with all the extra parameters it's controlling). so, i really doubt we'll see such a kit anytime soon. Not that i dont want one..........
last time i heard, Hondata has no plan to work on our ECU yet coz of how different it is from other Hondas(i guess with all the extra parameters it's controlling). so, i really doubt we'll see such a kit anytime soon. Not that i dont want one..........
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I think I am going to strike a deal with my wife. If I keep this car for 5 years (this would be quite a big deal for me 
) and get the TSX paid off .....
upgrade to TSX Type SC for me
What are typically the downsides to SC installs other than cost (thinking like $5K installed or is it more?) ?
I think if I SC's my TSX ... I would go 8 years with it for sure. And since I only put 10K miles per year .... it would just be getting good at that point
) and get the TSX paid off .....upgrade to TSX Type SC for me
What are typically the downsides to SC installs other than cost (thinking like $5K installed or is it more?) ?
I think if I SC's my TSX ... I would go 8 years with it for sure. And since I only put 10K miles per year .... it would just be getting good at that point
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You know i have that issue and i never seen that last line in the magazine article??
Wierd. Thats good news that they are working on a blower for it.
Would be something i would lookinto lastly on my car maybe after 2 years of ownership And im almost done with all my mods.
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Wierd. Thats good news that they are working on a blower for it.
Would be something i would lookinto lastly on my car maybe after 2 years of ownership And im almost done with all my mods.
AKay
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main drawback of SC system compared to turbos are noise and max power(usually a lot less boost).
but then, you dont get the turbo lag. And most likely smoother as a daily driver.
but then, you dont get the turbo lag. And most likely smoother as a daily driver.
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Directly from Jackson's FAQ:
Of course they are going to present their products in the best possible light, so take it for what you will. On a side note, the Jackson rep. from the article I linked to above also stated that most of their late model superchargers push only about 5 - 5.5 lb-ft of boost pressure. I think it is also worthy to note that some manufacturers offer factory superchargers with full factory warranty, Toyota is one of them. The boost pressure for those blowers is also low, and they go through extensive testing for each application, but Jackson claims they do that (or something similar) too.
Q: Will my factory warranty be void?
A: It is illegal for a Dealership to void your warranty simply because you have modifications to your vehicle. It is the Dealerships responsibility to prove that any modification was the reason for a failure. With that said, some Dealerships are more performance oriented and willing to work with customers. It would be our suggestion to consult with your local Dealership regarding their warranty specifics.
Q: How does the Supercharger affect the engine life?
A: Because of our unique bypass valve design, engine life is not effected. Our system is so efficient and produces such useable torque, that you are rarely at full throttle for any length of time. When you are at cruise speed or idle, the bypass allows the engine to breathe normally, no boost. Only when you depress the throttle aggressively does the bypass close and you have an instant 6psi of boost. Consequently, with our unique bypass valve and reasonable boost, engine life is not effected.
A: It is illegal for a Dealership to void your warranty simply because you have modifications to your vehicle. It is the Dealerships responsibility to prove that any modification was the reason for a failure. With that said, some Dealerships are more performance oriented and willing to work with customers. It would be our suggestion to consult with your local Dealership regarding their warranty specifics.
Q: How does the Supercharger affect the engine life?
A: Because of our unique bypass valve design, engine life is not effected. Our system is so efficient and produces such useable torque, that you are rarely at full throttle for any length of time. When you are at cruise speed or idle, the bypass allows the engine to breathe normally, no boost. Only when you depress the throttle aggressively does the bypass close and you have an instant 6psi of boost. Consequently, with our unique bypass valve and reasonable boost, engine life is not effected.
10-08-2003, 12:16 AM
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Originally posted by Aric
if JacksonRacing do come out with a supercharger kit, I think that will also mean that Hondata came out with some ECU flash for our car like the supercharged Si project.
last time i heard, Hondata has no plan to work on our ECU yet coz of how different it is from other Hondas(i guess with all the extra parameters it's controlling). so, i really doubt we'll see such a kit anytime soon. Not that i dont want one..........
if JacksonRacing do come out with a supercharger kit, I think that will also mean that Hondata came out with some ECU flash for our car like the supercharged Si project.
last time i heard, Hondata has no plan to work on our ECU yet coz of how different it is from other Hondas(i guess with all the extra parameters it's controlling). so, i really doubt we'll see such a kit anytime soon. Not that i dont want one..........
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The more I read about the JSRC Integra Type-R headaches they had, the less I want one. Basically you can bolt one on, but be prepared for extensive tuning.
I did like the quote that if you turned the A/C on you lost first gear.
I did like the quote that if you turned the A/C on you lost first gear.
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Originally posted by Thrawn
.....Since they were able to do this with the K20, my guess is that the K24 wouldn't be too much of a leap, unless i-VTEC isn't the only hurdle they have to cross.
.....Since they were able to do this with the K20, my guess is that the K24 wouldn't be too much of a leap, unless i-VTEC isn't the only hurdle they have to cross.
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Originally posted by fdl
The biggest downside is the longevity of your motor could be significantly reduced.
The biggest downside is the longevity of your motor could be significantly reduced.
10-08-2003, 06:54 AM
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Originally posted by Dan Martin
What's up with the 93 more hp than torque? That seems a little odd. I guess all the boost is kicking in at over 5252rpm....
What's up with the 93 more hp than torque? That seems a little odd. I guess all the boost is kicking in at over 5252rpm....
10-08-2003, 12:38 PM
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damn, it's confusing reading about other engines when you only have experience with one engine (2JZ)... lol
So the TSX is a K24.. Jackson Racing is coming out with an SC.. I also heard Comptech as well?
So the TSX is a K24.. Jackson Racing is coming out with an SC.. I also heard Comptech as well?
10-08-2003, 04:25 PM
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Yeah, this caught my eye too. It looks like max Hp would be achieved at around 7800-8000rpm. Is that realistic on an FI, especially supercharged? And especially, is it really durable? I know I wouldn't dare!
Yeah, this caught my eye too. It looks like max Hp would be achieved at around 7800-8000rpm. Is that realistic on an FI, especially supercharged? And especially, is it really durable? I know I wouldn't dare!
Jackson and MacMillan tested the RSX-S up to 9475 rpm and it was still making power.
I would be amazed if that engine could survive the drive home from the shop. Maybe they used the "Stage 7" engine that was run at indianapolis last week...
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