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Old 04-02-2006, 12:08 AM
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Rubbing Issues what do i do??? --- please educate me.

Ever since I got the alignment done after the drop, my back wheels/tires rub like crazy at any turn or bump, anyone in the backseat and its over...

With that said i need to do something to the fenders to push em' out a bit... beacuse before the alignement and the proper adjustment of the camber I didn't have any problems...

I guess one option is to take it bakc and have them intentionally throw out the rear camber, but i'd prefer to not f'up the tires...

I've read about tools that attach to the hub that help etc... I'd prefer to get a shop to do it if its too dififcult or if the tools needed will cost too much.

so I need help. I've never done this before, I dont even know where to start... so can someone educate me on how to do this?

This is the setup i've got...

19x8 Moda R6's
235-35-19 BF Goodrich Tires
Eibach Prokit Springs with SPC Rear Camber.

Also, there doesn't seem to be any trouble with the front rubbing at all, just the rear...

thanks in advance!!
Old 04-02-2006, 12:40 AM
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Im running 19/8 and im not having any problems at all. Im at a little negative camber in he rear.
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Im running 19x8 rims as well as 235/35/19 tires..I dont rub....but then again I Don't have camber kits and plus the negative camber that I have.. how low did you go? Im sure not much since you only have springs on..... since you have camber kits on with that issue.. I think you should consider rolling your fenders.
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What is the wheel offset and the post alignment spec?
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Originally Posted by JTso
What is the wheel offset and the post alignment spec?
yes what is the offset??
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raise it back up
Old 04-02-2006, 01:51 PM
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offset on the modas are +45

raising isn't an option they are springs not coilovers.

i'll try to take a pic later... its only the verry outter part of the fender on the back that rubs slightly with the tire when hitting a bump or corning hard or having someone in the back seat.
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Originally Posted by pizzaman555
Im running 19/8 and im not having any problems at all. Im at a little negative camber in he rear.
with negative camber i'd probably be okay... before my alignment I was just fine... its now after the camber has been corrected that i'm having the problem with the outter most part of the rear fender.
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What is the camber set to? Factory spec is -1.0 degree.
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go with 225/35/19 tires.
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I've heard of this before with SPC camber kit. The Ingalls, I believe, mounts differently and reduces rubbing.
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Originally Posted by JoesTSX
I've heard of this before with SPC camber kit. The Ingalls, I believe, mounts differently and reduces rubbing.
There is no difference. When you adjust the ingalls link, it also moves the top. The wheel still pivots on the same knuckle.
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what kind of shocks do you have because koni yellows allow you to lower or raise your car a half inch which might help a little.
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Originally Posted by JoesTSX
I've heard of this before with SPC camber kit. The Ingalls, I believe, mounts differently and reduces rubbing.
yes spc mounts on top pushing the wheel out to fix camber. where as ingalls mounts on the bottom pulling the wheels in more leaving the top untouched and virtually stock.
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Originally Posted by TSX420J
yes spc mounts on top pushing the wheel out to fix camber. where as ingalls mounts on the bottom pulling the wheels in more leaving the top untouched and virtually stock.
Sorry, that's not how it works. Take a closer look at the design and you will see.
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Originally Posted by JTso
Sorry, that's not how it works. Take a closer look at the design and you will see.
ok. I take my post back.
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Originally Posted by kobe98
go with 225/35/19 tires.
bad idea, making something else worse (overall wheel+tire size) isn't the solution to a problem
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You'll have difficulty flaring the fenders, vwong tried it and the paint started to crack, you better find someone that's really good at it

I have 17x8 +45 235/40/17 w/ Tein coilovers and ingalls kit dropped +2.5in so the wheel size should fit pretty well as mine are nearly identical. Are your shocks worn out quite a bit?
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My shocks dont seem worn out???

They seem fine/feel fine...


as far as the flaring of the fenders, its hard to explain without a pic but I know it would only take just a little bit like maybe a half to quarter inch to make i perfectly fine... its only underpressure that it does it.... and only the rear.

I'm conisering just taking it and doing just a little 'ripping motion' -- or pulling it out towars me (if i'm standing in front of it) to see if that might move it ever so slightly but enough to clear it.
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I heard it's no good for using aftermarket spring w/ stock shocks cause it will be done within a year. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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If all else fails throw on a RSB. That eliminated my rubbing issues, but mine were mostly up front. I can't even remember the last time I rubbed, front or rear.
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Originally Posted by CJams
If all else fails throw on a RSB. That eliminated my rubbing issues, but mine were mostly up front. I can't even remember the last time I rubbed, front or rear.
whats an RSB?

And yes I know that the shocks will go much sooner than later in which point i'm probably going to go with tanabe sustec pro 2 coilovers... but for now... gotta figure this rub out
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Rear Sway Bar
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if u are to roll the fenders make sure u have a heat gun handy and use a fender roller. DON'T USE A BASEBALL BAT!!!! It will carck ur paint.
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Originally Posted by Stokeless_TSX
if u are to roll the fenders make sure u have a heat gun handy and use a fender roller. DON'T USE A BASEBALL BAT!!!! It will carck ur paint.
well this exactly what i'm talking about... whats a fender roller? how does it work?

since this obviously starting to sound outta my league, how do i go about finding a place to do it?

thanks!
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Originally Posted by CJams
Rear Sway Bar
i have been considering one for a while anyway... but would u clarify for me how this would stop the rubbing? i guess i'm just not following.
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a fender roller bolts on to ur hub usint the studs and lug nuts. it has a ceramic roller and a arm u can adjust to push out more if u need to. It put pressure on the inner lip of the fender forcing it up and out of the way. U need to use a paint gun to heat up the paint to make sure it doesnt crack. If u use the old school ghetto baseball bat way. I promise u will have cracked paint and will need to get it fixed which can be pretty pricy.
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off topic... did you know the new TL come stock with rolled fenders (F&R)? I didn't know until I installed suspension on a couple of TLs.
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