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Old 07-05-2005, 02:38 PM
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Fixing a bad touch-up paint job?

My friend's pearl white TSX has a rock chip on the hood. We went to the Acura dealership and bought a bottle of touch-up paint. We matched the color code found by the driver side door. We shoke the bottle and applied the paint with a toothpick, layer by layer, with about 10 minutes wait time in-between each layer. We applied total of four layers. I must admit that we didn't do a good job. We ended up with extra paint around the edge of the chip. But what frustrates us the most is that the color matching is extremely poor. The dried touch-up paint on the hood is basically transparent, with very little pearl white color to it.

What did we do wrong? Too few layers? Bad touch-up paint?
And what can we do now to fix this? Can we get rid of the current layer of touch-up paint and start over?
Or are we screwed?
Old 07-05-2005, 03:29 PM
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I purchased some touch up paint from the dealer for my PWP TSX. I had some scratches on the rear bumper. I found that a thick coat of paint was needed to get around the problem that the paint is almost clear. The color match was poor. My dealer sold solvent to strip off touch up paint. The good news is the solvent works and wont harm the factory paint. I purchased Honda White Scratch Fix 2 in1 Duplicolor paint from an auto parts store. This product worked fairly well. A thin coat covered the scratch and the ball point applicator did not apply too much paint. The color match was much better then the dealer paint.
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PWP is a 3 stage paint. white base coat then a pearl mid coat then a clear coat
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Originally Posted by Scottsdale-Pearl
My dealer sold solvent to strip off touch up paint. The good news is the solvent works and wont harm the factory paint.
Does this solvent have a brand/name?
Since this product works for you, I want to try to get the same one.
Thanks in advance.
Old 07-05-2005, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ggsashi
The dried touch-up paint on the hood is basically transparent, with very little pearl white color to it.
YOu did use the pearl side of the pen right?
Old 07-05-2005, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by xizor
YOu did use the pearl side of the pen right?
The touch-up paint we bought comes in a bottle with a brush. It isn't a pen.
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Originally Posted by ggsashi
The touch-up paint we bought comes in a bottle with a brush. It isn't a pen.
unless its changed, the touch-up came in a pen. One end has a flat white color (like what you described) and the other has a pearl layer you put on top of the white. Maybe the bottle is the new thing, search the forum here for the pen and part #
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Originally Posted by ggsashi
The touch-up paint we bought comes in a bottle with a brush. It isn't a pen.
You didn't try to use nail polish did you?
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Originally Posted by Alin10123
You didn't try to use nail polish did you?
Nope. We only used the touch-up paint we got from the Acura dealership.
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I purchased the OEM touch-up paint for my PWP TSX and it was in a bottle with brush. There IS DEFINATELY pearl IN the paint itself.

And yes, I've had the same problem of the paint being too transparent. I might get a white base coat to apply (some regular'ol white touch up paint) and then put this on top for the proper color match + pearl.

And this solvent -- is it similar to the idea of langka, that takes off touch-up blobs down to the level of the factory paint, leaving a nice touch-up job? Brand name would be AWESOME.

Thanks
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Old 07-07-2005, 10:40 AM
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The product I got from the Acura dealer to remove the touch up paint is called "touh up magic". It does not seem to harm the facotry paint.
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Anyone found this stuff online? I'm not having any luck...is it "Touch Up Magic?"

Thanks..this would help so much!
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I found one or two links referring to it on Google. Try an Infiniti dealer as well as your local Acura dealer. There was one link that said he got it at his Infiniti dealer. Something like $12-$18.00 for the bottle.

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Old 07-07-2005, 12:11 PM
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I called the local dealership...no dice, they said they have never heard of it....the search continues
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I also bought touch up paint from the dealer only a couple of weeks ago. I asked about a pen style, and he told me it only comes in the bottle with brush applicator. I also noticed that the paint was very transparent. Considering their paint is more expensive than going to a car parts place, you'd think it would be a better fit.
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In Canada we have both the bottle and the pen available for touch-up. I had no problems with the touch up pen. Did 3 coats of the white and then finally did 2 coats of the pearl, and it all matches really well

It sounds like the bottle stuff just needs to be mixed better. Try giving it a rigorous shake before use (maybe shake for a minute or two)
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Originally Posted by Nd4Spd
In Canada we have both the bottle and the pen available for touch-up. I had no problems with the touch up pen. Did 3 coats of the white and then finally did 2 coats of the pearl, and it all matches really well

It sounds like the bottle stuff just needs to be mixed better. Try giving it a rigorous shake before use (maybe shake for a minute or two)
I didn't know we had the pens!

And I shook the bottle/brush for at LEAST 2 full minutes... and pretty fiercely, too!

*note to self: Get pen-style next week when I'm getting both headlights replaced under warranty (fogging).*
Old 07-07-2005, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by curls
I didn't know we had the pens!

And I shook the bottle/brush for at LEAST 2 full minutes... and pretty fiercely, too!

*note to self: Get pen-style next week when I'm getting both headlights replaced under warranty (fogging).*
Yah when I went to the parts department, they asked whether I wanted the pen or the bottle. The pen was a couple bucks more, but well worth it I believe
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How much are the pens? Can I order one on-line and ship it to Cali?
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The package for touch-up magic did not have a web site, only eamil addrees turboshine@frys.com.
The manufacturer is turbo shine, inc.
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Originally Posted by jlukja
How much are the pens? Can I order one on-line and ship it to Cali?
I'm not sure whether or not a dealer will ship it to Cali for you. But I've seen them on e-bay. Or if you really want one I'd send it out to you (I'm going in next Friday anyways)
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Is this the stuff?

http://bluelightning.zoovy.com/product/TOUCHUP
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Originally Posted by Nd4Spd
I'm not sure whether or not a dealer will ship it to Cali for you. But I've seen them on e-bay. Or if you really want one I'd send it out to you (I'm going in next Friday anyways)
Is the Canadian PWP the same as the US PWP? anyone know if the paint codes are the same?
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Is this the paint pen being discussed: towards bottom of page for $6.95 ?
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Is this the paint pen being discussed: towards bottom of page for $6.95 ?
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Originally Posted by SSN_FT1(SS/DV)
Don't know -- WebSense work filte ris blocking that page for some reason. LOL..

I searched Google for "Touch Up Magic" (no quotes) and it was on a G35 forum or Infiniti site...
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Originally Posted by jlukja
Is this the paint pen being discussed: towards bottom of page for $6.95 ?
I'm pretty sure this is the one they are talking about:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW
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Originally Posted by curls
Don't know -- WebSense work filte ris blocking that page for some reason. LOL..

I searched Google for "Touch Up Magic" (no quotes) and it was on a G35 forum or Infiniti site...
Check it when you get home...shouldn't be blocking it though, but....web-non-sense dosn't make any sense half the time

I can't think of what else this could be....
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Originally Posted by SSN_FT1(SS/DV)
I'm pretty sure this is the one they are talking about:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW
Yes the one on e-bay is the one we get in Canada. This is a genuine Acura part. The one at the bottom of that other link is an aftermarket company. The touch up paint they supply is probably similar to the one you get in the bottle. The reason why the Acura one is so nice is that you can put on the appropriate amount of Pearl to match the color almost exactly.

Yes the Pearl White in Canada and the US is the same
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Originally Posted by SSN_FT1(SS/DV)
I'm pretty sure this is the one they are talking about:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW
That's not the one from handa-accessories, but it will work. The one from Handa is PPG brand.

THe one from Acura is the one that says Acura right on it.

And the Touch-Up Magic from that blue-lightning site is the stuff I found online elsewhere. Of course, however, I can't get Google to find what I found this afternoon. LOL

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Originally Posted by curls
That's not the one from handa-accessories, but it will work. The one from Handa is PPG brand.

THe one from Acura is the one that says Acura right on it.

And the Touch-Up Magic from that blue-lightning site is the stuff I found online elsewhere. Of course, however, I can't get Google to find what I found this afternoon. LOL

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Dammit! Must find now....
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Yea, the product I got from North Scottsdale Acura is shown on web site http://bluelightning.zoovy.com/product/TOUCHUP.
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Just to let you all know, I did a lot of research into removing paint blobs (like what everyone in this thread is searching for), and came across a product that is well known and works well. It's called Langka. Langka is basically overpriced ($20+) stuff you can find in your local automotive store ($4.50), and it all boils down to this:

1. Go buy a small can of automotive lacquer thinner. ($3.50)
2. Eat a few popsicles and save the sticks (or use "craft sticks" that are essentially pre-eaten popsicles). ($1.00)
3. Cut up your little brothers' favorite t-shirt. Get a 3"x1.5" strip, or two or three.

Once you have let the touch-up paint dry for about 24 hours, wrap the stick ONCE with the t-shit material, and dip about 1/2 - 1" into the lacquer thinner. (I put about 1" of lacquer thinner into an old Pyrex measuring cup to make it easier).

Then once the t-shirt has absorbed some thinner, shake it once (away from the car) to remove excess thinner from dripping, and then lightly work the stick over the blob (flat-side down)... about 4-8 passes are required, but you will easily be able to tell for yourself. This will "remove" the blob and not harm the factory baked-on clearcoat.

Once the blob is gone to your satisfaction, let the area dry for about 1 minute, and wipe with another strip of dry t-shirt from your brothers' favorite t-shirt.

Repeat on all other blobs.

Take some polishing compound and polish each area to remove any sanding scuff marks from before you applied the paint (and to re-shine the clear aroudn the repair).

Apply some clear-coat touch up paint (one or two very thin layers). Wait a week, polish, and wax.

Voila.




Now, to find a damn touch-up paint that matches PWP perfectly AND ISN'T FREAKIN' TRANSPARENT!!!! GRRRR.....
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Originally Posted by Scottsdale-Pearl
Yea, the product I got from North Scottsdale Acura is shown on web site http://bluelightning.zoovy.com/product/TOUCHUP.
hey there's no pearl white on the list
http://www.autobarn.com/applications...ationguide.htm

which one did you buy?..how well did it work?
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