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Old 06-05-2005, 09:04 PM
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TSX VS TL on dynapack from church automotive

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...light=dynapack

"In a nutshell, the care dyno'ed at:
231 Horsepower (Max - SAE) @ 6321 RPM
210 lb-ft Torque (Max - SAE) @ 5303 RPM

Assuming 15% to 17% drivetrain losses (corrected):
265hp to 270hp @ 6,321 rpm
(270 hp @ 6200 RPM - manufacturer's data)
241 lb-ft to 245.7 lb-ft @ 5,303 RPM
(238 @ 5,000 rpm - manufacturer's data)"

With my mods, I dynoed 197hp and 169 lb-ft torque at the same place using the same dynapack.

This means a stock TL puts 34hp and 41 lb-ft torque than my fixed up TSX.
I'm going to rate my car at 235hp and 197 lb-ft torque for fun lol.
Not bad from stock 200hp and 166 lb-ft.
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I am impressed. With your CAI & Hondata Reflash. You dynoed @197HP at wheel. Nice
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With only those 2 mods 197HP?

Very generous dyno.
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Lightweight rims?
Old 06-06-2005, 09:21 AM
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Dynapack, guys. Subtract 10hp.
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Originally Posted by dom
With only those 2 mods 197HP?

Very generous dyno.

Old 06-06-2005, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by sauceman
Dynapack, guys. Subtract 10hp.
Old 06-08-2005, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
With only those 2 mods 197HP?

Very generous dyno.
I don't think the "subtract 10" method on dynapacks is accurate. Even if you take off 10, 187hp would the highest dynometer on the forum I believe, compared to jtso who dyno'd at 181hp w/ a CAI, hondata, header and other various engine tweaks. Atmosphere, conditions etc. can play a part of course, but I'll leave those out for the sake of argument.

The 15% driveline loss is usually used for dynometers, not dynapacks, and it has been accurate for the MT tsx in all the dynos I've seen, including my own. So even if you were to "subtract 10", you should calculate driveline loss after subtracting 10, so at the very most generous, you're looking at 220hp, but I'd guess ~215hp.

I'd be most worried for the TL owner, his dyno seems low to me for having an aftermarket exhaust system.
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Hmm...that link doesn't take me to a TSX vs TL comparison
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Originally Posted by xizor
I don't think the "subtract 10" method on dynapacks is accurate. Even if you take off 10, 187hp would the highest dynometer on the forum I believe, compared to jtso who dyno'd at 181hp w/ a CAI, hondata, header and other various engine tweaks. Atmosphere, conditions etc. can play a part of course, but I'll leave those out for the sake of argument.

The 15% driveline loss is usually used for dynometers, not dynapacks, and it has been accurate for the MT tsx in all the dynos I've seen, including my own. So even if you were to "subtract 10", you should calculate driveline loss after subtracting 10, so at the very most generous, you're looking at 220hp, but I'd guess ~215hp.

I'd be most worried for the TL owner, his dyno seems low to me for having an aftermarket exhaust system.
I don't think the TL owner should worry, on avg, on a dynojet, stock MT tl's have been putting 205ish at the wheels...
With dynapack, this individual put down 25hp more than everyone else using dynojet.
I predict with my light weight lims and sticky tires, I will put around 190ish whp using a dynojet.
Either way with, dynojet or dynopack, all i can say is my power is going up and will be near TL power after my header ^___________^
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Originally Posted by taewlee
I don't think the TL owner should worry, on avg, on a dynojet, stock MT tl's have been putting 205ish at the wheels...
With dynapack, this individual put down 25hp more than everyone else using dynojet.
I predict with my light weight lims and sticky tires, I will put around 190ish whp using a dynojet.
Either way with, dynojet or dynopack, all i can say is my power is going up and will be near TL power after my header ^___________^
sorry man, not to hate, but you have delusions of grandeur. TOV tested a 2004 6MT TL on a dynojet and got max power: 222.25 hp, max torque: 207.0 lb-ft. If my TL put down 205whp I'd get rid of it that day, something is wrong w/ it.

I'd suggest doing your next dyno on a dynojet to see how you compare. If you can pull 190 you've got a strong motor, but my guess is you'd fall ~180hp. And you'll never be close to a 3g TL w/ NA, hate to break it to you.
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you are a hater lol

https://acurazine.com/forums/ramblings-12/fuckd-up-tidal-wave-kansas-112685/

this is a stock 6mt tl dyno with max power at 208....
vtec.net posts dynos that are always higher than normal
they seem to get "lucky" all the time with a strong motor.
even their stock tsx dynoed more than usual

stop being a hater xizor and do more research next time. look at various dynos instead just vtec.net. and this is acurazine LOL... if you do a simple search in the tl forums next door, you can see a bunch of members dynoing at 205 - 210ish with their stock mt tl....
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but even more funny is you're hating on the potential of your own car, the tsx...

I think with the best I/H/E, hondata, and lightweight rims, a 6mt tsx should be able to break 200whp on a dynojet like the RSX have already done with hondata.

I hope that my car will be able to dyno 200whp on a regular dynojet one day and other tsx as well. Why do you have to call it illusions lol... I want to make it a reality
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good info taewlee!.. when your done, take me for a spin since i live in cali .. i want to get hondata but not sure yet..
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Originally Posted by taewlee
stop being a hater xizor and do more research next time.
telling me to do research, that's a riot. Let's see who's done research, I looked through the 3G TL forum and the only guy who had a crappy ~208whp dyno was the link you posted. I'm done arguing, put your money where your mouth is, post a dynojet run when you get your header and exhaust.

AEM's dyno link

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