those with superchargers..
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02-17-2006, 09:18 AM
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Just a mini-rant:
0-60 times were invented by car magazines as a benchmark for car performance. It was an easily understandable number for people to compare so it seemed like a good metric. The car manufacturers caught on to this many years ago so in the interest of marketing, they've done many tricks to better 0-60 times, often at the cost of slowing the overall acceleration you'd feel on a daily drive.
Perfect example is the gearing in our TSX. Second gear is far too high, and it's only high because they want to eliminate a second gear change before hitting 60 mph. When you're changing gears, you're not accelerating, so this hurts time. A reviewer for a car magazine just has to launch then pull straight back for 1-2 change and keep the pedal to the floor to get his time. Adding another change would complicate things and would probably show wild time discrepancies between reviews.
If all you were doing was racing to 60mph then stopping, there's nothing wrong with having a high second gear. However, it hurts us in the 1/4 and for everyday street driving. If they lowered it so we had to shift around 55mph, the engine would have a lot more power on tap and it would feel much stronger.
</mini-rant>
0-60 times were invented by car magazines as a benchmark for car performance. It was an easily understandable number for people to compare so it seemed like a good metric. The car manufacturers caught on to this many years ago so in the interest of marketing, they've done many tricks to better 0-60 times, often at the cost of slowing the overall acceleration you'd feel on a daily drive.
Perfect example is the gearing in our TSX. Second gear is far too high, and it's only high because they want to eliminate a second gear change before hitting 60 mph. When you're changing gears, you're not accelerating, so this hurts time. A reviewer for a car magazine just has to launch then pull straight back for 1-2 change and keep the pedal to the floor to get his time. Adding another change would complicate things and would probably show wild time discrepancies between reviews.
If all you were doing was racing to 60mph then stopping, there's nothing wrong with having a high second gear. However, it hurts us in the 1/4 and for everyday street driving. If they lowered it so we had to shift around 55mph, the engine would have a lot more power on tap and it would feel much stronger.
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02-17-2006, 10:47 AM
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Wow I've never seen Dan so passionate before! Couldn't agree with you more. 
But I would still be interested in seeing some 1/4 time slips for the supercharged tsxs...I'm not sure if there is any accurate way to get 0-60 times.
But I would still be interested in seeing some 1/4 time slips for the supercharged tsxs...I'm not sure if there is any accurate way to get 0-60 times.
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02-17-2006, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TinkySD
Wow I've never seen Dan so passionate before! Couldn't agree with you more.
But I would still be interested in seeing some 1/4 time slips for the supercharged tsxs...I'm not sure if there is any accurate way to get 0-60 times.
But I would still be interested in seeing some 1/4 time slips for the supercharged tsxs...I'm not sure if there is any accurate way to get 0-60 times.
I love you man!!! 
02-17-2006, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
I love you man!!! Oh no I think Dan started his Friday happy hour and hit the sauce a little early today....
PS. See domn, the gearing in the MT isn't that great either
02-17-2006, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Just a mini-rant:
Perfect example is the gearing in our TSX. Second gear is far too high, and it's only high because they want to eliminate a second gear change before hitting 60 mph. </mini-rant>
Perfect example is the gearing in our TSX. Second gear is far too high, and it's only high because they want to eliminate a second gear change before hitting 60 mph. </mini-rant>
Wow, that seems extreeme to me
02-17-2006, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by studdly
So does anyone drive 60mph in second gear here?
Wow, that seems extreeme to me
Wow, that seems extreeme to me
you need higher rpm to make decent 0-60 time in 2nd gear. The wide gear spread from 1st to 2nd sucks.
02-17-2006, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Just a mini-rant:
0-60 times were invented by car magazines as a benchmark for car performance. It was an easily understandable number for people to compare so it seemed like a good metric. The car manufacturers caught on to this many years ago so in the interest of marketing, they've done many tricks to better 0-60 times, often at the cost of slowing the overall acceleration you'd feel on a daily drive.
Perfect example is the gearing in our TSX. Second gear is far too high, and it's only high because they want to eliminate a second gear change before hitting 60 mph. When you're changing gears, you're not accelerating, so this hurts time. A reviewer for a car magazine just has to launch then pull straight back for 1-2 change and keep the pedal to the floor to get his time. Adding another change would complicate things and would probably show wild time discrepancies between reviews.
If all you were doing was racing to 60mph then stopping, there's nothing wrong with having a high second gear. However, it hurts us in the 1/4 and for everyday street driving. If they lowered it so we had to shift around 55mph, the engine would have a lot more power on tap and it would feel much stronger.
</mini-rant>
0-60 times were invented by car magazines as a benchmark for car performance. It was an easily understandable number for people to compare so it seemed like a good metric. The car manufacturers caught on to this many years ago so in the interest of marketing, they've done many tricks to better 0-60 times, often at the cost of slowing the overall acceleration you'd feel on a daily drive.
Perfect example is the gearing in our TSX. Second gear is far too high, and it's only high because they want to eliminate a second gear change before hitting 60 mph. When you're changing gears, you're not accelerating, so this hurts time. A reviewer for a car magazine just has to launch then pull straight back for 1-2 change and keep the pedal to the floor to get his time. Adding another change would complicate things and would probably show wild time discrepancies between reviews.
If all you were doing was racing to 60mph then stopping, there's nothing wrong with having a high second gear. However, it hurts us in the 1/4 and for everyday street driving. If they lowered it so we had to shift around 55mph, the engine would have a lot more power on tap and it would feel much stronger.
</mini-rant>
04-18-2006, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TSX559
Why dont we get a 0-30 time? If you multiply that by 2 then that will be an accurate 0-6 time? Right? 
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Originally Posted by AcuraDriver2006
boy you have no idea about cars.
04-18-2006, 06:26 PM
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I would guess it would knock a second or so off of real life quarter mile times. Probably could dip into the high 13's with a nice running M/T car. 06 cars maybe a little better even. Not having an LSD diff would really start to be a problem even in a straight line.