Retrofit RSX-S subwoofer for TSX?

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Old 06-14-2006, 08:12 PM
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Question Retrofit RSX-S subwoofer for TSX?

The RSX Type-S has a BOSE subwoofer built to fit inside the spare wheel. I'm considering retrofitting this for the TSX. Has anyone tried it yet?
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Old 06-14-2006, 08:28 PM
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Wow thats a good idea. How much do those subs run for?
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Sounds pretty cool...will sound even better when you get that BOSE subwoofer in.

Any pics of the RSX with this installed?
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Old 06-14-2006, 09:40 PM
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Won't you need an amp? Or is one built into the unit?

I want to say that I've seen generic aftermarket in-the-spare-wheel subs for sale before. I decided to do a quick search, and I can't find one, although, I do see a bunch of compact subs with 6" speakers.

Why not just get some sub-like 6x9s and add an amp? The only thing you have to worry about would be the clearance, if the 6x9s are too large.
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you mean like the 6x9s that already play the bass in the tsx?...what would be the point?
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How much does the OEM RSX-S subwoofer cost?
I'm wondering how good it will sound in the TSX, in a hatchback like the RSX subwoofers will sound louder since there is nothing to block the cabin and trunk.
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Not worth it

I use to sell Acura's. The RSX sub in the spare tire was not very loud at all. Barely even knew that it was there. Most of my customers would replace it with a Bazooka unit. Not worth the time or trouble to put that in.
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Originally Posted by TSX 3Pedal
Sounds pretty cool...will sound even better when you get that BOSE subwoofer in.

Any pics of the RSX with this installed?
go to acura.com -> RSX -> Photo & Video Gallery. there is a pic there, 3 over, 3 down.
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Originally Posted by vidgamer
Won't you need an amp? Or is one built into the unit?

I want to say that I've seen generic aftermarket in-the-spare-wheel subs for sale before. I decided to do a quick search, and I can't find one, although, I do see a bunch of compact subs with 6" speakers.

Why not just get some sub-like 6x9s and add an amp? The only thing you have to worry about would be the clearance, if the 6x9s are too large.
i've never heard of a 6x9 sub. dont you need an enclosure for it to be a sub?
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Old 06-15-2006, 02:03 AM
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I wouldn't bother with a factory sub unless it came with another amp that was pulling at least 300 watts RMS. Otherwise you won't even know its there unless you are listening to rap all day.
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The Bose rich bass woofer (not a sub) is only 6.5". Not that impressive.
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Originally Posted by usurbrain
I use to sell Acura's. The RSX sub in the spare tire was not very loud at all. Barely even knew that it was there. Most of my customers would replace it with a Bazooka unit. Not worth the time or trouble to put that in.
I agree it doesn't sound good in hatchback -- and it sure won't help much in the TSX!

That said, I did buy one used for $25 and put it my S2000. With that car's trunk being so small I didn't want to take up any additional room but I wanted some bass. The RSX-S sub allowed me to add base without sacrificing any room -- and in the S2000 the unit is much closer to the driver/passenger (than the RSX) so it sounds more effective.
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Why would you want to do this? I used to have an RSX Type-S. That subwoofer is the weakest subwoofer in the history of subwoofers.
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Originally Posted by your_mom
Why would you want to do this? I used to have an RSX Type-S. That subwoofer is the weakest subwoofer in the history of subwoofers.
obviously, those who are interested in this mod are not looking for neighborhood-rattling bass. just need something to fill out the lower spectrum that the 6x9's can't. but now that someone in this thread said that its actually a woofer and not a sub, i'm having second thoughts.
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the woofer is listed on ebay for those who are interested in seeing: item 8074052460
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Why not put a real woofer or subwoofer in the spare tire area? That BOSE thing just plays one-note bass and it flops around when you really start putting a lot of power to it.
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I suppose though there is some appeal in a factory-ish component.
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Originally Posted by feelgood13
just need something to fill out the lower spectrum that the 6x9's can't.
That's just it -- it will NOT do that. BTW, don't get too caught up in the term woofer versus subwoofer b/c they are used incorrectly in many cases. A 6x9 speaker has close to the cone area of an 8" driver, and two 8" drivers have roughly the same cone area as a 12" driver. So basically TSX has loosely the equivalent of a 12" driver (albeit a weak OEM one that's not getting a lot of power driving it). So that lone 6.5" woofer in the RSX-S setup is not going to overcome the much greater cone area of the TSX's low frequency drivers. You need to move a lot of air to produce the lower spectrum.

All that said, have you actually listened to the stock system in the TSX? I think it is pretty decent and not near as bad as some people around here try to make it seem.
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Originally Posted by feelgood13
the woofer is listed on ebay for those who are interested in seeing: item 8074052460
It's not worth anywhere near $75 they want (not to mention the $20 they want to ship it). I bought mine for $25 shipped several years ago from a ClubRSX forurm member.
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Originally Posted by STL
That's just it -- it will NOT do that. BTW, don't get too caught up in the term woofer versus subwoofer b/c they are used incorrectly in many cases. A 6x9 speaker has close to the cone area of an 8" driver, and two 8" drivers have roughly the same cone area as a 12" driver. So basically TSX has loosely the equivalent of a 12" driver (albeit a weak OEM one that's not getting a lot of power driving it). So that lone 6.5" woofer in the RSX-S setup is not going to overcome the much greater cone area of the TSX's low frequency drivers. You need to move a lot of air to produce the lower spectrum.


In fact, there are gains to be had by replacing the OEM 6x9 with better quality 6x9.
Originally Posted by TSX Audio & Video FAQ
Rear deck: 6x9 woofer with injection-molded graphite cone, cheap cloth surround. Cone will last forever, surround may last a year, and will change stiffness fast.
You just need to find a good quality 6x9 made from a light/stiff cone material and rubber surround (not cloth or foam) with an efficiency and power rating similar to the OEM speaker. I'm thinking somewhere in the 92db-94db range for efficiency and in the 50W-75W RMS for power handling.
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Originally Posted by jlukja
I'm thinking somewhere in the 92db-94db range for efficiency...
If you're expecting to find a 6x9 woofer with those efficiency numbers you'll be looking forever -- mainly because one doesn't exist! You might find those number on a (2-way or 3-way) full range 6x9, but those numbers are meaningless since it is actually the tweeter(s) making the number that high. It is only the woofer's efficieny that you should be concerned about because with the stock crossover in place the driver will only be playing low frequencies.
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The sub in the RSX-S sounded like crap to me. I hated that stereo.
Now, having the 06 Si, that's another story. The sub sounds way better. If I'd have to pick between the two, I'd get the sub from the new Si.
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One thing to note however, is that factory-Bose systems are not typical stereo systems that deliver analog signal over speaker wire.

The RSX sub actually has a built in sub-amplifier, but it receives its signal from the Bose head unit itself. The signal is digital and is not the same as your standard head unit.

This makes it virtually unusable without some serious knowledge of stereo systems.
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Originally Posted by tekn0mage
One thing to note however, is that factory-Bose systems are not typical stereo systems that deliver analog signal over speaker wire.

The RSX sub actually has a built in sub-amplifier, but it receives its signal from the Bose head unit itself. The signal is digital and is not the same as your standard head unit.

This makes it virtually unusable without some serious knowledge of stereo systems.
I have one in my S2000 and the built-in amp takes an analog (not digital) signal. The only thing I found "different" about it was the signal level needed to properly drive the amp needed to be slightly higher than line level. Based on it's small size, I suspect the amp is a Class D design but that does NOT mean it takes a digital input.
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Wow they're using class-D amplifiers in cars now? I guess it sorta makes sense. High Fidelity isn't really a big concern for cars, and they are efficient... especially for things like subwoofers.
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