Oil catch can v2!
12-27-2004, 10:28 PM
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Oil catch can v2!
Okay, it's time to upgrade the oil catch can that I did awhile back. The previous version still works fine but the capacity is just a little small and constantly requires emptying.
This is oil catch can v1:
This is oil catch can v2:
The construction of this unit is very heavy duty! The bottle is protected by a metal cover with slits to view the fluid level. It uses a petcock valve for draining.
The filter uses screw-on fastener. The internal has very large ports for air flow.
It uses a large O-ring on the body and twist lock instead of screw-on.
The installation will require a custom made mounting bracket and hose routing. I will post the final installation once it's completed.
This is oil catch can v1:
This is oil catch can v2:
The construction of this unit is very heavy duty! The bottle is protected by a metal cover with slits to view the fluid level. It uses a petcock valve for draining.
The filter uses screw-on fastener. The internal has very large ports for air flow.
It uses a large O-ring on the body and twist lock instead of screw-on.
The installation will require a custom made mounting bracket and hose routing. I will post the final installation once it's completed.
12-27-2004, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SmokinHaze
wow...that is a big can!!!
btw, how much was the new filter? and where did u get it??
looks alot better though
btw, how much was the new filter? and where did u get it??
looks alot better though
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12-28-2004, 05:57 PM
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Haha... it's actually not that big when comparing with other catch cans such as Greddy, Cusco, or Moroso. It's about 7" tall and 2.5" wide at the top.
The mounting bracket is 50% done pending on some welding. I have already come up with a mounting location and custom mounting method. More to come later...
The mounting bracket is 50% done pending on some welding. I have already come up with a mounting location and custom mounting method. More to come later...
12-28-2004, 07:08 PM
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Slight aside to the thread but along the same lines. Since so much oil seems to be recycled into the intake path do you think using a synthetic oil which doesn't burn would have some kind of adverse affect on the motor?
12-28-2004, 07:21 PM
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You know when I installed my Hondata heat shield I didn't have any oil residue in my ports at all. They were dry and clean. I guess I am just lucky =) I don't think I need this mod but I might do it just to see if I get oil like you do. Because if I do then I don't want it in my chambers.
12-28-2004, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TinkySD
Slight aside to the thread but along the same lines. Since so much oil seems to be recycled into the intake path do you think using a synthetic oil which doesn't burn would have some kind of adverse affect on the motor?
12-28-2004, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Stokeless_TSX
You know when I installed my Hondata heat shield I didn't have any oil residue in my ports at all. They were dry and clean. I guess I am just lucky =) I don't think I need this mod but I might do it just to see if I get oil like you do. Because if I do then I don't want it in my chambers.
12-30-2004, 07:06 PM
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V2 completed!
It's finally done! Here are some pics...
Custom mounting bracket & system: The welding is not much to look at but it works.
Test fitting: It fits perfectly!
PCV hose routing: It goes across the front of the intake manifold...
PCV hose routing 2: and connects to the inlet of the catch can right next to the battery.
Outlet hose routing: The hose goes from the outlet, behind the battery, then behind the intake manifold, and finally ends up at the top of the intake manifold.
All hoses connected:
Reinstalled intake cover:
Install completed: The mounting location doesn't take up any usable space...
Rear view of mounting system:
Easy remove for draining: The unit can be easily removed from the bracket for draining.
Done!
Custom mounting bracket & system: The welding is not much to look at but it works.
Test fitting: It fits perfectly!
PCV hose routing: It goes across the front of the intake manifold...
PCV hose routing 2: and connects to the inlet of the catch can right next to the battery.
Outlet hose routing: The hose goes from the outlet, behind the battery, then behind the intake manifold, and finally ends up at the top of the intake manifold.
All hoses connected:
Reinstalled intake cover:
Install completed: The mounting location doesn't take up any usable space...
Rear view of mounting system:
Easy remove for draining: The unit can be easily removed from the bracket for draining.
Done!
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12-31-2004, 09:40 AM
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Thanks guys!
Yes, the oil will get burned up, but it creates carbon build-up as a result. High detergent fuel can help with the cleaning, but it's kind of like eating greasy food and hoping to take Pepto-Bismol to cure the problem later. Therefore, it's best not to ingest the grease/oil the first place.
Nice stuff, but wouldn't the oil get burned up through the combustion anyway? If not then wouldn't V-Power gas help?
01-24-2005, 08:14 PM
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PCV gas temperatures....
Does anyone have any ideas of the temperature of the PCV gasses?
One of the drain filters I'm looking at (Asco Joucomatic: 0083 3731) has an ambient temperature range of 32-122F; and Max inlet pressures and temperatures of: 16bar (232PSI) @ 73F, or 10bar (145PSI) @ 122F.
Now the pressure's aren't an issue, however the temperature might be a slight concern as if the gases are above 122F it could lead to degradation of the internals of the filter creating further foreign particulate's or gaseous contaminants?
Should I be concerned?
Oh and I would just get one of the types you guys have used if they were available in australia
Cheers
One of the drain filters I'm looking at (Asco Joucomatic: 0083 3731) has an ambient temperature range of 32-122F; and Max inlet pressures and temperatures of: 16bar (232PSI) @ 73F, or 10bar (145PSI) @ 122F.
Now the pressure's aren't an issue, however the temperature might be a slight concern as if the gases are above 122F it could lead to degradation of the internals of the filter creating further foreign particulate's or gaseous contaminants?
Should I be concerned?
Oh and I would just get one of the types you guys have used if they were available in australia
Cheers
09-11-2005, 10:04 AM
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FYI, I've had mine on for about 300 miles and so far no trace of anything. Car runs fine, so if I don't see anything by the next 4700 miles, I'll go back to stock setup.
09-11-2005, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by moda_way
FYI, I've had mine on for about 300 miles and so far no trace of anything. Car runs fine, so if I don't see anything by the next 4700 miles, I'll go back to stock setup.
09-11-2005, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JTso
Hmm... I would verify the PCV valve is operating correctly, as well as the flow direction on the catch can. Blowby gases and oil vapor are the byproduct of normal engine operation and they have to go somewhere. Otherwise, the build-up pressure would blow out oil seals. The blowby gases would take the least restricted path to escape, normally via the PCV valve with the aid of vacuum. If the PCV valve is closed, then the next restricted path is the valve cover vent tube, which could result oil film on the throttle body butterfly plate. So check there too.
09-11-2005, 04:48 PM
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Well JTso, just went out to check the catch can again, after a spirit night of drving last night... looks like the filter is a little brown now. So its at least working... but to what extent... well, the jury is still out.
What was your reason for the larger "model" catch can again?
What was your reason for the larger "model" catch can again?
09-11-2005, 06:05 PM
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The larger can is for the higher capacity so I don't need to empty it too often. I have the smaller one on my Prelude as it's the only size that would fit, and it fills up rather quickly. You can tell from the pic below the can is already half full after about 500 miles.
09-11-2005, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JTso
The larger can is for the higher capacity so I don't need to empty it too often. I have the smaller one on my Prelude as it's the only size that would fit, and it fills up rather quickly. You can tell from the pic below the can is already half full after about 500 miles.
Haha... my buddy has an '00 prelude. I'll have to show him that one.
09-15-2005, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JTso
Hmm... I would verify the PCV valve is operating correctly, as well as the flow direction on the catch can. Blowby gases and oil vapor are the byproduct of normal engine operation and they have to go somewhere. Otherwise, the build-up pressure would blow out oil seals. The blowby gases would take the least restricted path to escape, normally via the PCV valve with the aid of vacuum. If the PCV valve is closed, then the next restricted path is the valve cover vent tube, which could result oil film on the throttle body butterfly plate. So check there too.
mine is a K20A. alot of my fellow owners vent the valve cover outlet to an oil catch can. but upon inspection, seems like there's little or no oil mist at all. did i miss anything here?
oso there's another outlet that links to the intake rubber hose. dat particular outlet has 2 paths, i.e. one to the above mentioned, the other directly to the intake manifold. shld this be hooked up to the oil catch can instead?
pls advise. thanx!
09-15-2005, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by blurblur2
hi JTso,
mine is a K20A. alot of my fellow owners vent the valve cover outlet to an oil catch can. but upon inspection, seems like there's little or no oil mist at all. did i miss anything here?
oso there's another outlet that links to the intake rubber hose. dat particular outlet has 2 paths, i.e. one to the above mentioned, the other directly to the intake manifold. shld this be hooked up to the oil catch can instead?
pls advise. thanx!
mine is a K20A. alot of my fellow owners vent the valve cover outlet to an oil catch can. but upon inspection, seems like there's little or no oil mist at all. did i miss anything here?
oso there's another outlet that links to the intake rubber hose. dat particular outlet has 2 paths, i.e. one to the above mentioned, the other directly to the intake manifold. shld this be hooked up to the oil catch can instead?
pls advise. thanx!