K20AHonda

NP Mfg has just finished there turbo kit for the EP3. Next they will be doing an RSX as well as a TSX. Using the same stainless tubular manifold for all 3 cars. Here's a pic of the manifold and there work.


The kit will include:
NP Mfg stainless manifold
NP Mfg Intercooler
NP Mfg Headgasket (lowers compression to 9.5:1)
Precision sc61 turbo
TIAL 38mm wastegate
Greddy BOV
RC 550cc Injectors
Injector Clips
All piping
2.5" downpipe with flex
Braided feed and return line

With the lowered compression 14psi on 93octane could be achieved on a stock motor.

acuratsx03

sauceman

93 octane is not enough for 14psi on a K24A2, I'm pretty sure of that.

And the problem isn't the exhaust manifold for the TSX, it's the management.

BlackTSXer

yes ..but i dont see any 93 octane around here.. and boosting 14 psi hmm pretty high.. this or cn? cant wait to see how both turn out

cmf

Who is NP Mfg? Never heard of em. Considering the DC5 (RSX) has been out for a while, I wonder why they would put the EP3 in front of the DC5.

K20AHonda

14psi on stock ecu with Apex SAFC. The main problem with running boost on stock ecu is the timing being high for the 10.5(TSX) or 11.0(RSX) compression. Therefore with there turbo headgasket, which comes in two sizes, it will lower the compression 1 point for the tsx and 1.5 points for the rsx. Now with the compression lowered the ecu's original timing curve won't hurt the motor.

NP Mfg is a new company but has been working on turbo hondas for the past 6 years. Just remember the initial NP.

Stokeless_TSX

wont work. we can't use the Apexi SAFC....

Outkast_CL9

Cybernation Should have their kit out soon also

RMATIC09

cool

mrsteve

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Cybernation = crap!

Have you seen the RSX kit? the exhaust manifold isn't stainless steel. In the box they have been known to show oxidation (i.e., rust!) Same with the plumbing for the intercooler. Looks like ass. The plumbing and the manifold will eventually rust and crack.

K20AHonda

as you can tell NP MFG has a full stainless manifold. And has lifetime warranty.

mrsteve

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Lifetime warranty on the entire kit? or just on the plumbing?

cmf

I notice you knock Cybernation a lot, well, at least on the turbo threads. Do you have anything to back up what you say?
As far as the manifold, I might give you that one being as how they are all custom made, but am still not completely convinced without proof. As far as intercooler, and piping, other parts supplied are all from big companies like Spearco, Turbonetics, etc. Not too sure with how many applications of intercoolers and piping Spearco makes that rust out and crack.
I read up a lot on their turbo setups, and yes, they have a few problems here and there, but any turbo setup will, especially when not tuned or cared for properly.
Just curious to know what situations you speak of to think that Cybernation provides crap turbo applications.

mrsteve

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I've met up with the local ClubRSX crew quite a few times recently and a girl recently had the Cybernation Stage 1 kit installed. Brand new kit from CN. The plumbing on the intercooler is made by CN, not Spearco, etc. The actual core may be from another source, but anyways...

I've seen both the plumbing on the kit and the exhaust manifold. Totally covered in oxidation. Looks like crap. The pipes aren't the color of stainless steel at all. Covered in spots of red/brown "rust." The kit has only been installed for 6 weeks or less. She said it looked like that when she unpacked everything from the box direct from CN. Also, the general concensus from the RSX crew I was hanging out with said the CN kit is junk.

loxllxol

The CN kit for the RSX worked magic with that car! If you're basing the CN kit as "junk" based on piping, a simple and cheap solution is just to high temp coat the piping before you install.

That way, you get a kit that puts out great power for the money, and rust proof for life.

Out of ALL the turbos available for the RSX, the CN kit blows all of 'em away.

Dan Martin

Did you see the pics he posted here: https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...3&postcount=37

Looks pretty shitty to me. If they skimped on something that simple, where else did they cut corners?

mrsteve

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Care to back that up?

The HKS and GReddy kits are great.

mrsteve

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HKS manifold:



Cybernation manifold



'nuff said

tsxondubs

id rather have less power and a reliable kit then more power and a big ass problem down the road ,On a brand new car i want the best that is made and know im not going to break down after i spent over 4 grand on a turbo kit for them to cut corners on , shitty as hell , david

BlackTSXer

i get what mrsteve is saying.. however, besides the oxidation problems cybernation has held up better than any other turbos on the CRSX forums. guardian has saved a couple people...

mrsteve

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K-pro has been proven to make much more power than guardian

nyfan78

All i can say is i have seen the work Norris has done in the past and its all top notch!!!! I will be his 1st customer when that kit coems out. I total trust him. i have had him do owrk on many friends cars too. with no issues. His knows what he is talking about. Big props Norris! cant wait bro!
Scott

BlackTSXer

i definitely agree. with tuning the k-pro can pull a bit more power than with the guardian. and the quality of the parts for CN being average. however, for people that don't have the money/time to tune the guardian is a great alternative. along with its safety features (cut off boost if thinks a prob will occur with engine), the guardian may be a better thing.. and once they come out with a k-pro/guardian (a guardian that you may be able to program) it will be a beautiful thing...

with that being said, I will definitely check out whatever other turbos that may come out for the TSX...