?Hondata Reflash?
#1
Pro
Thread Starter
?Hondata Reflash?
I am thinking about getting a Hondata reflash but I was wondering if there were any other mods that were good to pair with the reflash? I want something to pair with it that will give me the most hp and torque for my money.
Any suggestions? Thanks
Any suggestions? Thanks
#2
Straight from Hondata's website "This reflash will work very well with an 06 TSX in stock form, or with headers and intake." http://www.hondata.com/reflash_tsx_06.html
#7
Instructor
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Philadelphia
Age: 38
Posts: 156
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
i have an 06 auto with fujita intake and i am leaning towards hondata sooo bad... but.. i dont know how to come about doing it... i dont know how to remove the ecu or immobilizer....any hondata dealers in the east coast near PA that i could just drive tooo?? ive heard nothing but good
Trending Topics
#8
Team Owner
iTrader: (1)
Originally Posted by TSeXaholic
i have an 06 auto with fujita intake and i am leaning towards hondata sooo bad... but.. i dont know how to come about doing it... i dont know how to remove the ecu or immobilizer....any hondata dealers in the east coast near PA that i could just drive tooo?? ive heard nothing but good
#9
Faster, please.
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Philly
Age: 46
Posts: 388
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Plenty of detailed instructions on the web and it really isn't that difficult. Search around and you'll find them.
#10
CL9 ABP
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Commack, Long Island -> Queens NY
Age: 37
Posts: 4,528
Received 245 Likes
on
112 Posts
It so worth it on my 05 i can't imagine driving with out the hondata.
I bought an 04 at ecu with hondata already because drkangel was doing a tranny swap AT TO MT
I bought an 04 at ecu with hondata already because drkangel was doing a tranny swap AT TO MT
#11
Originally Posted by daddydliv
It's pretty simple, nothing really technical involved. All you need is a screwdriver, a ratchet, and some patience. I believe the Hondata site gives instructions. It's been a while since I did it though. Good luck!
Not only have I seen the "care" that shipping companies take, but I've had a few packages disappear into thin air on me!
#12
hey bro....
seriously..our cars are so similar
it was actually your car that inspired me to black out my door trim, and I alos have tinted corners...NBP with Ebony interior
anyway...definitely get the HONDATA!!
I got it a few months ago and I am convinced that I made the right move every time I hit 5000 rpm...
you'll love it
God bless
Kevin
seriously..our cars are so similar
it was actually your car that inspired me to black out my door trim, and I alos have tinted corners...NBP with Ebony interior
anyway...definitely get the HONDATA!!
I got it a few months ago and I am convinced that I made the right move every time I hit 5000 rpm...
you'll love it
God bless
Kevin
#13
Have camera, will travel
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Federal Way, WA
Age: 63
Posts: 7,783
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by DLTSX6MT
The part that terrifies me is putting my ECU in a box and shipping it out!
Not only have I seen the "care" that shipping companies take, but I've had a few packages disappear into thin air on me!
Not only have I seen the "care" that shipping companies take, but I've had a few packages disappear into thin air on me!
#14
Rep'n Taxbrain.com
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: N. Cali-forn-i-a
Age: 44
Posts: 7,075
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes
on
3 Posts
You ship it via overnight, so it should get tracked very well by the carriers. The only time I've heard someone having a problem was when they shipped from Canada to the US. Even that shouldn't be a problem though. Many of us have gotten a reflash, and shipped the ECU out so I wouldn't worry.
Here's how to remove everything:
http://www.hondata.com/tsx_ecu_removal.html
Here's how to remove everything:
http://www.hondata.com/tsx_ecu_removal.html
#15
OK, so maybe I'm just paranoid, but say your ECU gets lost in the mail, and you go to your Acura dealer to order a new one because, oh I dunno, you yanked it out of the car and LOST it or something...if they really want to be hard-a$$es, they could say tha "you just, like, voided the warranty on your whole entire engine for messing around with the ECU and who knows what else you've tried to mod", no?
And even if they do sell you one, I'm sure you'll need to have them install it if you want any chance of preserving your warranty after that...cha-ching for the stealership!!
What's a new ECU worth, BTW? And so what's a good amount to insure it for?
And even if they do sell you one, I'm sure you'll need to have them install it if you want any chance of preserving your warranty after that...cha-ching for the stealership!!
What's a new ECU worth, BTW? And so what's a good amount to insure it for?
#16
Pro
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by bluesolara
hey bro....
seriously..our cars are so similar
it was actually your car that inspired me to black out my door trim, and I alos have tinted corners...NBP with Ebony interior
anyway...definitely get the HONDATA!!
I got it a few months ago and I am convinced that I made the right move every time I hit 5000 rpm...
you'll love it
God bless
Kevin
seriously..our cars are so similar
it was actually your car that inspired me to black out my door trim, and I alos have tinted corners...NBP with Ebony interior
anyway...definitely get the HONDATA!!
I got it a few months ago and I am convinced that I made the right move every time I hit 5000 rpm...
you'll love it
God bless
Kevin
#17
Team Owner
iTrader: (1)
Originally Posted by DLTSX6MT
OK, so maybe I'm just paranoid, but say your ECU gets lost in the mail, and you go to your Acura dealer to order a new one because, oh I dunno, you yanked it out of the car and LOST it or something...if they really want to be hard-a$$es, they could say tha "you just, like, voided the warranty on your whole entire engine for messing around with the ECU and who knows what else you've tried to mod", no?
And even if they do sell you one, I'm sure you'll need to have them install it if you want any chance of preserving your warranty after that...cha-ching for the stealership!!
What's a new ECU worth, BTW? And so what's a good amount to insure it for?
And even if they do sell you one, I'm sure you'll need to have them install it if you want any chance of preserving your warranty after that...cha-ching for the stealership!!
What's a new ECU worth, BTW? And so what's a good amount to insure it for?
#18
to NJSGTI
hey bro...thanks for being such a gentleman, cuz I still believe imitation is highest form of flattery...haha
anyway, hope you don't die of jealousy, but I live quite close to HONDATA, so I went thru one of the dealers close by, EPIC MOTORING , and let them take the car over...
1. I didn't have to pull the ECU out and the immobilizer out
2. I didn't have any down time at all...except for the afternoon I spent to drive there and back
3. I didn't pay more than 595 because I paid in cash (with tax it's about 640)
AND I got a discount from kevin at Epic Motoring for me having to wait 2 hours for the car
to get reflashed 20 bucks off...
4. No mailing cost, no waiting, no worries...
probably the best HONDATA purchase experience out of any TSX owners out there
but it is totally worth your time to take everything out and be without your car for a few days....
I just had the privilege to be in SO CAL
I will post pictures of car soon, when I do get it lowered...
hey bro...thanks for being such a gentleman, cuz I still believe imitation is highest form of flattery...haha
anyway, hope you don't die of jealousy, but I live quite close to HONDATA, so I went thru one of the dealers close by, EPIC MOTORING , and let them take the car over...
1. I didn't have to pull the ECU out and the immobilizer out
2. I didn't have any down time at all...except for the afternoon I spent to drive there and back
3. I didn't pay more than 595 because I paid in cash (with tax it's about 640)
AND I got a discount from kevin at Epic Motoring for me having to wait 2 hours for the car
to get reflashed 20 bucks off...
4. No mailing cost, no waiting, no worries...
probably the best HONDATA purchase experience out of any TSX owners out there
but it is totally worth your time to take everything out and be without your car for a few days....
I just had the privilege to be in SO CAL
I will post pictures of car soon, when I do get it lowered...
#19
Pro
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by bluesolara
to NJSGTI
hey bro...thanks for being such a gentleman, cuz I still believe imitation is highest form of flattery...haha
anyway, hope you don't die of jealousy, but I live quite close to HONDATA, so I went thru one of the dealers close by, EPIC MOTORING , and let them take the car over...
1. I didn't have to pull the ECU out and the immobilizer out
2. I didn't have any down time at all...except for the afternoon I spent to drive there and back
3. I didn't pay more than 595 because I paid in cash (with tax it's about 640)
AND I got a discount from kevin at Epic Motoring for me having to wait 2 hours for the car
to get reflashed 20 bucks off...
4. No mailing cost, no waiting, no worries...
probably the best HONDATA purchase experience out of any TSX owners out there
but it is totally worth your time to take everything out and be without your car for a few days....
I just had the privilege to be in SO CAL
I will post pictures of car soon, when I do get it lowered...
hey bro...thanks for being such a gentleman, cuz I still believe imitation is highest form of flattery...haha
anyway, hope you don't die of jealousy, but I live quite close to HONDATA, so I went thru one of the dealers close by, EPIC MOTORING , and let them take the car over...
1. I didn't have to pull the ECU out and the immobilizer out
2. I didn't have any down time at all...except for the afternoon I spent to drive there and back
3. I didn't pay more than 595 because I paid in cash (with tax it's about 640)
AND I got a discount from kevin at Epic Motoring for me having to wait 2 hours for the car
to get reflashed 20 bucks off...
4. No mailing cost, no waiting, no worries...
probably the best HONDATA purchase experience out of any TSX owners out there
but it is totally worth your time to take everything out and be without your car for a few days....
I just had the privilege to be in SO CAL
I will post pictures of car soon, when I do get it lowered...
#20
Let me help you!
Originally Posted by NJSGTI
Sounds good! I live in Orlando and there is a dealer in Tampa which is almost two hours away. Im trying to decide if it's worth it to drive there and not have to remove anything myself. Id rather leave it to a pro.
So if you really want to drive 2 hours so that you can leave your car there for a few days, then I guess you can do it. But from what I gather, "it's so easy, even a caveman can do it." You should be able to do it yourself and mail it over to Hondata (the dealers mail you the packaging that's necessary...
#22
Have camera, will travel
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Federal Way, WA
Age: 63
Posts: 7,783
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by NJSGTI
Sounds good! I live in Orlando and there is a dealer in Tampa which is almost two hours away. Im trying to decide if it's worth it to drive there and not have to remove anything myself. Id rather leave it to a pro.
Once again, no matter what dealer you go through, the ECU must be sent to Hondata for the reflash. So, if you live in Florida or anywhere else but right next door to Hondata, plan on being without the use of your car for a few days.
#23
Originally Posted by waTSX
Once again, no matter what dealer you go through, the ECU must be sent to Hondata for the reflash. So, if you live in Florida or anywhere else but right next door to Hondata, plan on being without the use of your car for a few days.
#24
Have camera, will travel
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Federal Way, WA
Age: 63
Posts: 7,783
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by DLTSX6MT
And IIRC, there's no way to deal with Hondata directly, right? Meaning you have to work through one of those dealers, either in person or by phone and mail. Someone once suggested working with Epic, regardless of where you live.
Good luck.
#26
Team Owner
iTrader: (1)
Originally Posted by waTSX
That's correct. You have to use one of the dealers as an intermediary. You send it to them, they send it to Hondata. Kevin at Epic Motoring does a good job. Many AZ members have dealt with him, including me, with zero problems. Since he can drive the ECU right over to Hondata, the turnaround may be quicker than with other dealers.
Good luck.
Good luck.
#27
Originally Posted by waTSX
That's correct. You have to use one of the dealers as an intermediary. You send it to them, they send it to Hondata. Kevin at Epic Motoring does a good job. Many AZ members have dealt with him, including me, with zero problems. Since he can drive the ECU right over to Hondata, the turnaround may be quicker than with other dealers.
Good luck.
Good luck.
I guess I had the process misunderstood a little...
I thought the process was:
1) call a dealer.
2) dealer sends you shipping materials.
3) you put your ECU into the shipping materials, and ship directly to Hondata.
4) you pay the dealer, dealer makes $$ doing for nothing more than being a middleman.
5) Hondata flashes your ECU and ships it directly back to you.
So, if that's the case, even if you work with Epic, the ECU would go directly to Hondata and Epic would never lay hands on it, right?
I like your description better, though. I'd definitely prefer a dealer who personally transports my ECU vs one who puts it into the mail machine for still two more trips(send and return).
#28
Senior Moderator
The most commonly used process is the other board's "here's your box and shipping labels" method. If purchased from them, you will receive:
1. cardboard box
2. all shipping labels (overnight) and tracking numbers you need
3. pretty good instructions on what to do
4. stickers
You put your ecu and immobilizer in the box, and send away (lets say, on Monday, just before shipping closes, 5pm).
Then, Hondata receives it Tuesday around 10am. Then program it that day and get it back in the mail to you with your pre-paid shipping label. This is what happens on Tuesday.
Wednesday, sometime before 10am. You get your box back, hand delivered. Go install it in your car, and by 10:30am you've got the best thing you'll ever do it and can still make it to work (late). At least, these are the steps I did. I had to carpool for 1 day to work, but boy is it worth it.
The only thing different about Epic is, one of the Epic guys will actually drive your TSX to hondata, where doug does the programming on the car itself, without removing the ECU, just unplugging the factory cables and doing his programming. Obviously this is the best scenario, but its only available to socal locals. For us east coasters, the shipping method really is quite easy.
1. cardboard box
2. all shipping labels (overnight) and tracking numbers you need
3. pretty good instructions on what to do
4. stickers
You put your ecu and immobilizer in the box, and send away (lets say, on Monday, just before shipping closes, 5pm).
Then, Hondata receives it Tuesday around 10am. Then program it that day and get it back in the mail to you with your pre-paid shipping label. This is what happens on Tuesday.
Wednesday, sometime before 10am. You get your box back, hand delivered. Go install it in your car, and by 10:30am you've got the best thing you'll ever do it and can still make it to work (late). At least, these are the steps I did. I had to carpool for 1 day to work, but boy is it worth it.
The only thing different about Epic is, one of the Epic guys will actually drive your TSX to hondata, where doug does the programming on the car itself, without removing the ECU, just unplugging the factory cables and doing his programming. Obviously this is the best scenario, but its only available to socal locals. For us east coasters, the shipping method really is quite easy.
#29
Boost Junky
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Smithtown Scion LI, NY
Age: 42
Posts: 446
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by lcrazyaznl
It so worth it on my 05 i can't imagine driving with out the hondata.
I bought an 04 at ecu with hondata already because drkangel was doing a tranny swap AT TO MT
I bought an 04 at ecu with hondata already because drkangel was doing a tranny swap AT TO MT
#30
Originally Posted by lcrazyaznl
It so worth it on my 05 i can't imagine driving with out the hondata.
I bought an 04 at ecu with hondata already because drkangel was doing a tranny swap AT TO MT
I bought an 04 at ecu with hondata already because drkangel was doing a tranny swap AT TO MT
#33
Have camera, will travel
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Federal Way, WA
Age: 63
Posts: 7,783
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Actually, you never send the ECU to the dealer. The dealer only serves as the point of initiating the sale, but you mail the ECU directly to Hondata and get it back directly from them. The dealer never has to touch the ECU unless you request that the dealer remove the ECU for you.
Originally Posted by DLTSX6MT
I guess I had the process misunderstood a little...
I thought the process was:
1) call a dealer.
2) dealer sends you shipping materials.
3) you put your ECU into the shipping materials, and ship directly to Hondata.
4) you pay the dealer, dealer makes $$ doing for nothing more than being a middleman.
5) Hondata flashes your ECU and ships it directly back to you.
So, if that's the case, even if you work with Epic, the ECU would go directly to Hondata and Epic would never lay hands on it, right?
I like your description better, though. I'd definitely prefer a dealer who personally transports my ECU vs one who puts it into the mail machine for still two more trips(send and return).
I thought the process was:
1) call a dealer.
2) dealer sends you shipping materials.
3) you put your ECU into the shipping materials, and ship directly to Hondata.
4) you pay the dealer, dealer makes $$ doing for nothing more than being a middleman.
5) Hondata flashes your ECU and ships it directly back to you.
So, if that's the case, even if you work with Epic, the ECU would go directly to Hondata and Epic would never lay hands on it, right?
I like your description better, though. I'd definitely prefer a dealer who personally transports my ECU vs one who puts it into the mail machine for still two more trips(send and return).
I apologize if I disseminated bad info.
#34
Rep'n Taxbrain.com
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: N. Cali-forn-i-a
Age: 44
Posts: 7,075
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes
on
3 Posts
^^ Actually, you're info sounds correct if you're going through Epic Motoring. Since Kevin is close to Hondata himself, he has the luxory of bringing it directly to Hondata himself.
Some of the dealers are not in Cali so it works as described by DLTSX6MT and Reach. It just depends on who you go through to get the reflash.
Some of the dealers are not in Cali so it works as described by DLTSX6MT and Reach. It just depends on who you go through to get the reflash.
#36
Team Owner
I read somewhere that, because of the slightly larger intake on the 06/07 models, the reflash on the 06/07 increases the performance approximately the same as an 04/05 reflash + header + intake. Its a very good bang-for-the-buck. As Ferris said, " If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up".
#37
Three Wheelin'
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Philadelphia Burbs
Age: 41
Posts: 1,727
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by jlukja
I read somewhere that, because of the slightly larger intake on the 06/07 models, the reflash on the 06/07 increases the performance approximately the same as an 04/05 reflash + header + intake. Its a very good bang-for-the-buck. As Ferris said, " If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up".
Hondata 04 reflash w/ intake & headers (yellow one) compared to a 06 reflash only.
#38
Intermediate
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by NJSGTI
I am thinking about getting a Hondata reflash but I was wondering if there were any other mods that were good to pair with the reflash? I want something to pair with it that will give me the most hp and torque for my money.
Any suggestions? Thanks
Any suggestions? Thanks
#39
Not a Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: new jersey
Posts: 960
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
if you guys who own a tsx w/ hondata, header, intake had to compare the acceleration of your car to another, faster car, what would it be?
**e.g. tsx now feels like a RSX-S**
**e.g. tsx now feels like a RSX-S**
#40
Intermediate
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Pembroke Pines ,Florida
Age: 45
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Kingmotorsports.com deals with the reflash. You pay them and ship right to Hondata. I pulled mine myself. Very easy with instructions on hondata website. 30 min pull...maybe. Running stock tsx and very noticable difference. Plus vtec engages @ 5000 rpm. Almost forgot.... they burned my ECU and had to replace it with another.Nice.