Honda element with a tsx motor????
11-09-2006, 06:29 PM
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Honda element with a tsx motor????
I know I can do a head swap as the motors are basically the same......but there are so many upgrades for the actual tsx motor, SO can i stuff a tsx motor in an element and keep my transmision??? Are the TSX/s front wheel drive?? should I just replace both engine and transmision?? I found a motor on bay for 3000$ and for 50 more hp out the gate it seems this to be a good alternative to 2500$ turbo kit.
11-09-2006, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jasonator
I know I can do a head swap as the motors are basically the same......but there are so many upgrades for the actual tsx motor, SO can i stuff a tsx motor in an element and keep my transmision??? Are the TSX/s front wheel drive?? should I just replace both engine and transmision?? I found a motor on bay for 3000$ and for 50 more hp out the gate it seems this to be a good alternative to 2500$ turbo kit.
Okay, our motors are strokers, so if you want to use your ECU, you'll also need a custom mapping and get a bored out TB. As for tranny, yes, we are FWD too, but I don't think your tranny will mate up not to mention you'll probably need custom half shafts. Is the swap possible? More than likely yes. I think you'll have more issues with all the custom stuff you'll need to do to make it work.
Good luck.
11-09-2006, 07:28 PM
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I know people have done a rsx type s head swap into an element before and a local buddy is going to be having one done this winter then followed by a custom turbo setup.
11-10-2006, 01:57 PM
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Pimping out an element? :bleh:
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11-10-2006, 04:01 PM
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I don't think there's a problem w/ the Element tranny bolting up, as the blocks are both K24's. As for which tranny would be best, compare the gear ratios (available online and probably here as well) and go from there.
It might overall be EASIER to turbo the Element if that's your desire (to pimp the Element), because as far as I know you'd need to clear up a lot of unknowns with the TSX K24 in the Element, whereas there are turbo kits available for the Element (I think) and they should be more straightforward.
It might overall be EASIER to turbo the Element if that's your desire (to pimp the Element), because as far as I know you'd need to clear up a lot of unknowns with the TSX K24 in the Element, whereas there are turbo kits available for the Element (I think) and they should be more straightforward.
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Originally Posted by curls
I don't think there's a problem w/ the Element tranny bolting up, as the blocks are both K24's. As for which tranny would be best, compare the gear ratios (available online and probably here as well) and go from there.
It might overall be EASIER to turbo the Element if that's your desire (to pimp the Element), because as far as I know you'd need to clear up a lot of unknowns with the TSX K24 in the Element, whereas there are turbo kits available for the Element (I think) and they should be more straightforward.
It might overall be EASIER to turbo the Element if that's your desire (to pimp the Element), because as far as I know you'd need to clear up a lot of unknowns with the TSX K24 in the Element, whereas there are turbo kits available for the Element (I think) and they should be more straightforward.
11-10-2006, 05:28 PM
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I'd probably look long and hard at turbocharging the stock engine rather than a swap. Your engine develops less horsepower because its compression ratio is reduced (9.7:1 vs. 10.5:1). Lower-compression engines respond much better to forced induction because they can tolerate higher boost pressures before running into detonation and overstress issues. For a $2500 turbo, you would probably end up making more power than with a TSX engine swap, for less money and hassle, and you could probably do it pretty safely too.
11-10-2006, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
Aren't TSX's RHD?
11-11-2006, 06:52 AM
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Yeah, I looked at turbos, the one shop here gave me an outagoues number though, and IF I did go turbo then it would have to professionaly done. 6500 is what I got quoted, to include everything under the sun to make the turbo compatible including the 1000 Hondata upgrade, new manifold gasket which reduces intake temp by 15 to 40 degrees, all polished aluminum piping, new intake and headers. I thought this was high until he broke it down. This using all high end equipment as well. So if I were to drop a tsx or rsx type s moter in and started with 200 hp stock then with a few minor mods like headers, intake and exaust I could achieve 220 to 240 with a naturally aspirated moter for less money. Hence the research.
11-11-2006, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jasonator
Yeah, I looked at turbos, the one shop here gave me an outagoues number though, and IF I did go turbo then it would have to professionaly done. 6500 is what I got quoted, to include everything under the sun to make the turbo compatible including the 1000 Hondata upgrade, new manifold gasket which reduces intake temp by 15 to 40 degrees, all polished aluminum piping, new intake and headers. I thought this was high until he broke it down. This using all high end equipment as well. So if I were to drop a tsx or rsx type s moter in and started with 200 hp stock then with a few minor mods like headers, intake and exaust I could achieve 220 to 240 with a naturally aspirated moter for less money. Hence the research.
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Originally Posted by jasonator
Yeah, I looked at turbos, the one shop here gave me an outagoues number though, and IF I did go turbo then it would have to professionaly done. 6500 is what I got quoted, to include everything under the sun to make the turbo compatible including the 1000 Hondata upgrade, new manifold gasket which reduces intake temp by 15 to 40 degrees, all polished aluminum piping, new intake and headers. I thought this was high until he broke it down. This using all high end equipment as well. So if I were to drop a tsx or rsx type s moter in and started with 200 hp stock then with a few minor mods like headers, intake and exaust I could achieve 220 to 240 with a naturally aspirated moter for less money. Hence the research.
I found no reason why u will have to pay $6500 to get a proper turbo set up. I doubt anyone would be running stock intake and headers since u would need a new custome downpipe. And an new intake manifold gasket? U would be better off getting a intercooler.
The Element seriously needs some torque to get moving. U will be much bennifeted with a turbo.
Good luck
03-08-2023, 01:44 PM
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Has anyone successfully swapped a TSX engine and 6spd into an Element. I know this thread is old, but there seems to be no resources to this type of build. We want to make a 24 hour of Lemons car.
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