Change CAI for Comptech Icebox
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Change CAI for Comptech Icebox
Today I change my Injen CAI for the comptech IB. I did notice some diferrences before 3K rpm and very silence operation. With CAI the car feels stronger and the rpms go faster, the CIB is smoother but not as strong.
Your comments
Thanks to all.
Your comments
Thanks to all.
#6
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The CAI robs you of more low end power than the CIB. With the CIB you should feel a little better pickup in low RPM then not as much in mid RPM and then a little bit more at the very top. There is a thread where someone posted a dyon comparison of the two.
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Hey! I did this too!
Dude, you totally stole my idea!
Well, I've been eager to try the icebox, and I finally got around to swapping the Injen out today. In my limited drivetime experience so far, I enjoy the reduced noise (FAR reduced, nearly but not quite stock) and earlier, stronger throttle response. I did lose a bit of power in the high band, once I got above 4500 rpm w/ the Injen that needle would fly all the way to 7000 very quickly. It takes just a bit longer to get there now.
Pics are in order.
Intake parts everywhere.
For the record, this whole process of installing either Injen or Comptech can be done without even jacking the car up or removing the wheel. Just turn the wheel and you'll have enough room to work.
(yes i did install the air horn later)
Completed. Yeah I know, you've seen it before.
Injen post-uninstall. Its all boxed up now in case I want to sell it or use it again later. (anyone want to buy?)
Here's my question though. The Comptech instructions state to 'use the included hardware' to fasten the new Icebox lid to the stock airbox. However, there was no included hardware to do so, and no mention that it should be there on the parts list. I re-used the screws from the stock airbox lid. Re-using the old screws was difficult, as I had to compress the filter in the box pretty hard by hand to get the screws to even reach the bottom threading so they could fasten. This leads me to wonder if I'm using the wrong screws. One way or another, its on, and very tight now.
In doing all this I noticed that the new Uni-Foam air filter doesn't fit 'IN' the lower airbox like the old filter did, instead it fits on top of it, flushly.
Old filter in airbox bottom (not how there is a upper and lower part, and the lower part is recessed in the airbox:
New uni-foam filter, sitting flush with the top of the box, not recessed in it at all:
Is all of this normal behavior for an icebox? Should the foam filter just sit on top of the old box, with the comptech lid and screws securing it? If I get the K&N drop-in filter, will it sit more like the original paper filter? I would prefer something that at least seemed like it fit better. Now I know why many people installed weather stripping to really ensure a tight seal.
Comments and Questions welcomed.
Well, I've been eager to try the icebox, and I finally got around to swapping the Injen out today. In my limited drivetime experience so far, I enjoy the reduced noise (FAR reduced, nearly but not quite stock) and earlier, stronger throttle response. I did lose a bit of power in the high band, once I got above 4500 rpm w/ the Injen that needle would fly all the way to 7000 very quickly. It takes just a bit longer to get there now.
Pics are in order.
Intake parts everywhere.
For the record, this whole process of installing either Injen or Comptech can be done without even jacking the car up or removing the wheel. Just turn the wheel and you'll have enough room to work.
(yes i did install the air horn later)
Completed. Yeah I know, you've seen it before.
Injen post-uninstall. Its all boxed up now in case I want to sell it or use it again later. (anyone want to buy?)
Here's my question though. The Comptech instructions state to 'use the included hardware' to fasten the new Icebox lid to the stock airbox. However, there was no included hardware to do so, and no mention that it should be there on the parts list. I re-used the screws from the stock airbox lid. Re-using the old screws was difficult, as I had to compress the filter in the box pretty hard by hand to get the screws to even reach the bottom threading so they could fasten. This leads me to wonder if I'm using the wrong screws. One way or another, its on, and very tight now.
In doing all this I noticed that the new Uni-Foam air filter doesn't fit 'IN' the lower airbox like the old filter did, instead it fits on top of it, flushly.
Old filter in airbox bottom (not how there is a upper and lower part, and the lower part is recessed in the airbox:
New uni-foam filter, sitting flush with the top of the box, not recessed in it at all:
Is all of this normal behavior for an icebox? Should the foam filter just sit on top of the old box, with the comptech lid and screws securing it? If I get the K&N drop-in filter, will it sit more like the original paper filter? I would prefer something that at least seemed like it fit better. Now I know why many people installed weather stripping to really ensure a tight seal.
Comments and Questions welcomed.
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Originally Posted by EuRTSX
Reach I might be interested for the Injen, but how loud is it? o_O I've heard of a lot of people switching to CIB because the Injen CAI was a tad bit loud =/
The only thing I'm sort of annoyed with is that during your maintenance with Acura they are supposed to change your filter included in the price of the whole deal. They won't touch the K&N filter unless I pay extra for cleaning it.
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1. Driving daily with the injen was loud!!.
2. Yes the car was explosive in the rpms with the Injen, the CIB is quiet and the rpms does not climb very fast, but you can feel the car moving very quickly in the 6k rpm and up
3. In the low end the CIB is better and taking off from a stop light feels faster. The previous problem of managing the take off is better now.
4. Good compromise of power and comfort. ( I have everything comptech now from CIB, Header, Catback, Shifter, Hondata, etc ). Now I just hear the exhaust.
5. I wonder what change can be made if I put a 64mm TB and remove my cat??
Thanks to all for the feed back
1. Driving daily with the injen was loud!!.
2. Yes the car was explosive in the rpms with the Injen, the CIB is quiet and the rpms does not climb very fast, but you can feel the car moving very quickly in the 6k rpm and up
3. In the low end the CIB is better and taking off from a stop light feels faster. The previous problem of managing the take off is better now.
4. Good compromise of power and comfort. ( I have everything comptech now from CIB, Header, Catback, Shifter, Hondata, etc ). Now I just hear the exhaust.
5. I wonder what change can be made if I put a 64mm TB and remove my cat??
Thanks to all for the feed back
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Originally Posted by EuRTSX
Reach I might be interested for the Injen, but how loud is it? o_O I've heard of a lot of people switching to CIB because the Injen CAI was a tad bit loud =/
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I wouldn't say the CAI was offensive loud, but it is louder. I really switched because I just wanted to compare them. But after I got it on, I think I'll be sticking with the 'box. Who knows tho, I change my mind often!
Oh, and I'd still really like an answer to the filter fitment and icebox lid screws questions
And I won't be making the mega meet guys, sorry. Wedding to go to, open bar!
Oh, and I'd still really like an answer to the filter fitment and icebox lid screws questions
And I won't be making the mega meet guys, sorry. Wedding to go to, open bar!
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Originally Posted by PixelHarmony
The only thing I'm sort of annoyed with is that during your maintenance with Acura they are supposed to change your filter included in the price of the whole deal. They won't touch the K&N filter unless I pay extra for cleaning it.
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Originally Posted by Reach
Oh, and I'd still really like an answer to the filter fitment and icebox lid screws questions
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Originally Posted by Reach
Dude, you totally stole my idea!
Well, I've been eager to try the icebox, and I finally got around to swapping the Injen out today. In my limited drivetime experience so far, I enjoy the reduced noise (FAR reduced, nearly but not quite stock) and earlier, stronger throttle response. I did lose a bit of power in the high band, once I got above 4500 rpm w/ the Injen that needle would fly all the way to 7000 very quickly. It takes just a bit longer to get there now.
Pics are in order.
Intake parts everywhere.
For the record, this whole process of installing either Injen or Comptech can be done without even jacking the car up or removing the wheel. Just turn the wheel and you'll have enough room to work.
(yes i did install the air horn later)
Completed. Yeah I know, you've seen it before.
Injen post-uninstall. Its all boxed up now in case I want to sell it or use it again later. (anyone want to buy?)
Here's my question though. The Comptech instructions state to 'use the included hardware' to fasten the new Icebox lid to the stock airbox. However, there was no included hardware to do so, and no mention that it should be there on the parts list. I re-used the screws from the stock airbox lid. Re-using the old screws was difficult, as I had to compress the filter in the box pretty hard by hand to get the screws to even reach the bottom threading so they could fasten. This leads me to wonder if I'm using the wrong screws. One way or another, its on, and very tight now.
In doing all this I noticed that the new Uni-Foam air filter doesn't fit 'IN' the lower airbox like the old filter did, instead it fits on top of it, flushly.
Old filter in airbox bottom (not how there is a upper and lower part, and the lower part is recessed in the airbox:
New uni-foam filter, sitting flush with the top of the box, not recessed in it at all:
Is all of this normal behavior for an icebox? Should the foam filter just sit on top of the old box, with the comptech lid and screws securing it? If I get the K&N drop-in filter, will it sit more like the original paper filter? I would prefer something that at least seemed like it fit better. Now I know why many people installed weather stripping to really ensure a tight seal.
Comments and Questions welcomed.
Well, I've been eager to try the icebox, and I finally got around to swapping the Injen out today. In my limited drivetime experience so far, I enjoy the reduced noise (FAR reduced, nearly but not quite stock) and earlier, stronger throttle response. I did lose a bit of power in the high band, once I got above 4500 rpm w/ the Injen that needle would fly all the way to 7000 very quickly. It takes just a bit longer to get there now.
Pics are in order.
Intake parts everywhere.
For the record, this whole process of installing either Injen or Comptech can be done without even jacking the car up or removing the wheel. Just turn the wheel and you'll have enough room to work.
(yes i did install the air horn later)
Completed. Yeah I know, you've seen it before.
Injen post-uninstall. Its all boxed up now in case I want to sell it or use it again later. (anyone want to buy?)
Here's my question though. The Comptech instructions state to 'use the included hardware' to fasten the new Icebox lid to the stock airbox. However, there was no included hardware to do so, and no mention that it should be there on the parts list. I re-used the screws from the stock airbox lid. Re-using the old screws was difficult, as I had to compress the filter in the box pretty hard by hand to get the screws to even reach the bottom threading so they could fasten. This leads me to wonder if I'm using the wrong screws. One way or another, its on, and very tight now.
In doing all this I noticed that the new Uni-Foam air filter doesn't fit 'IN' the lower airbox like the old filter did, instead it fits on top of it, flushly.
Old filter in airbox bottom (not how there is a upper and lower part, and the lower part is recessed in the airbox:
New uni-foam filter, sitting flush with the top of the box, not recessed in it at all:
Is all of this normal behavior for an icebox? Should the foam filter just sit on top of the old box, with the comptech lid and screws securing it? If I get the K&N drop-in filter, will it sit more like the original paper filter? I would prefer something that at least seemed like it fit better. Now I know why many people installed weather stripping to really ensure a tight seal.
Comments and Questions welcomed.
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Great pics Reach, just what i needed since i am going to install the icebox tomorrow. I just got the reflash a couple days ago and i can't wait to get a little growl to go with the extra power.
Any comments on the icebox and hondata combination?
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Any comments on the icebox and hondata combination?
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