Ahhh..i get it..your one of the ones who doesnt want a turbo?? Makes sense now! Look at the people who ARE making kits not knowing if they will sell or not. Its just that HKS needs to know that people are interested..maybe not now but will be at some time..now if u do NOTHING NOW you will have NOTHING LATER. If they made the kit now and it doesnt sell when released who cares..the point is it will in the future..especially when peoples warranties are done! Everybody isn't willing to live on the edge in a pricey TSX. Im one who would really consider this kit reguardless of warranty..but i'd rather see more than one turbo kit out..i want to be able to make a choice between 2 or 3 Kits. But nobody's making them because they think we dont want them.. How else will HKS know that we want them?...its not like they come to Acura Forums so WE HAVE TO CALL THEM AND LET THEM KNOW...when released i bet they would probably sell 15 kits maybe more..Greddy took a chance with the 350z and G35..they dont sell many kits.. but Greddy did it because its a "350Z" ...i just want to see more things available for our cars..and I WANT THIS TURBO!..lol

 

Remind me not to hire you.

Turbos are on the way, Cybernation will have one out early next year. When there's a market to support them, manufacturers will start pushing product out the door. No need to create a false economy to get them here sooner.

 

The turbo kits will come, but to put a ton of development money into something that there isn't a real demand for means money wasted that might have been better spent on other things. HKS is, first and foremost, a business and they have to make good business decisions because they are in it to make money.

While I agree that it would be nice to see options for forced induction, creating a false market for a particular vehicle will likely result in those forced induction options being fewer rather more as aftermarket tuning companies will be jaded by the initial experience.

Haven't you ever read the story of the boy who cried wolf?

 

If all the people that are interested send an email plus $500 non-refundable deposit to HKS (or any turbo company for that matter), the company might take you more seriously and motivate the development of the kit.

 

Its not really false...just think about it..there are people who might want the kit when its released that dont have computers so dont know of HKS or any other company making turbos for our cars..so instead of thinking its false think of it as your talking for someone who doesnt know about this kit. Some of you Acura guys are too basic! Live alittle! You act like doin this is gonna hurt YOU?? I guess you guys just dont want a turbo kit and dont want to go out your way to make it happen cause its not gonna benifit you..i understandd. THANKS ANYWAY.

 

Sometimes I don't know why I bother...

...but here goes anyway...

I would like to see a turbo kit. And it won't hurt me. But I am also a business-minded individual who happens to understand that businesses don't like producing things that won't sell. Considering that there are no engine management options currently available, pushing HKS to produce this turbo kit seems like kind of a silly idea since if someone bought the kit, they'd never be able to get proper power out of it. So why push HKS now, which might annoy or piss them off. Why not wait until there are sufficient supporting parts?

Besides, by that time, HKS will have done their own assessment of the market demand and determined whether or not a market for the kit exists and will produce it.

All I'm saying is that you don't want to ruin the relationship that people have developed with the aftermarket companies by doing something that might cause a company HKS to lose out on money.

 

Exactly.

 

I knew you were gonna say something about you and "business"..that was obvious. The HKS Turbo comes with its own fuel management system. something like greddy uses (E-Manage). Its not something that you would tune on your own like a "PowerFC"..but you could go to a shop of HKS and have it done. We'll thats what i've read on.

 

if you wamted a turbo from them that badly, i'm sure ANY company would make a one off piece if you paid them enough money

 

any have this article or a link to it? i would like to see some scans if possible...

 

offer hks like 12g's for their turbo and i think that they'll give you all their secrets....

before i bought my tsx i had a sentra ser spec v, and noone had a turbo/superchrger for it. then at one point there was one guy, from his own company (he had lots of expirence not just any guy) started making a turbo for the spec v. the about 2 months later another company started developing one too. at one point they were about head to head until the one that started put later blew an engine because the spec v internals can hold only about 7psi, he was running 6psi but a lot of torque down low (ie 235wftlbs @2000rpm) and blew a connecting rod. then they went back and redid their kit. there was a price war that was going on too which in a way helped bring pirces a few hundred down on both sides.

about the time i bought the tsx there were 2 more companies developing turbo's for the spec v. moral of story: -companies need time to develope products. - if there is a market, companies will come -once one if out other companies will lokk at how that company is doing and asses their risks and they might start developing a system (like a domino effect) -if a company sees that there are 50 people wanting a turbo and only sells 5 then another company will not enter the market because they cannot trust the people who say they want one.

i personally believe that a few companies are waiting to see how comptech/cybernations kits will sell/power output and then decide if they will start producting a kit themselves. TIME WILL TELL

and yes, i think that i also will want a turbo setup on my car within the next 2 years. i am torn between the decision of keeping the tsx for 5or more years and then maybe getting something else, but have a turbo tsx with built internals running like 15psi (yea, i know never gonna happen but i can dream right?) or not drop another penny into my tsx and save every penny and in like 2 years buy another car along the lines of the sh-awd tl 6mt or an m3

 

First of all Greddy made a kit for the g35 (Skyling) and the 350z because they are tuner cars! The previous Z had a factory turbo option and I'm sure Greddy knew the potential it had.

The TSX isn't really a tuner car (hopefully it will be) Other than slight modifications you can make here and there like any other accord you won't get tons of high performance parts.

You're 22, did you just graduate? Did you pay for your car? I mean if you have a job that let's you get all those goodies and a $4000 turbo kit, please let me know where you're working. I think I speak for a lot of people on this forum when I say that the TSX is a great car and everyone bought it for their own reasons. Speed was not one of them. They knew the weren't going to get a 13 second car out of the TSX. Maybe a few individuals will go all out hardcore custom tuning. For the majority however Force induction (a costly modification) would be last on the list of ways to blow $4000 on a car.

You want a faster car with style, should've just spent the extra $4000 and gotten a s2000 IMO.

 

i would have also recommended the EVO to you which now comes with leather if you so desire...

EVO = less expensive and easier to play with and get the power you want...my friends has 325hp at the wheels after maybe 2 grand in tuning...

 

LOL...Guy what does my age have to do with it?? I accually bought my TSX on my own.. and i dont think u need to know what i do for a living..i make a pretty penny..wait..i pretty shiny penny..lol (i smell a hater) $4000 is decent for a kit..when i had my Matrix XRS i was gonna get a turbo but the problem was that there weren't any out except 1 in the making which took forever and now i dont have the car. So instead i put about 5 to $6K in bolt-ons (plus labor chargers) and exterior products in that car. Now im looking to just go turbo with my TSX so im patiently waiting. And i dont like the S2000..or i probably would've got that instead. i like the idea of getting things that are not made to be fast and make them fast..creativity my man!

 

I was gonna get an EVO but the interior is garbage..the TSX is just a beautiful car. And i love my NAVI!! When i was about to get my TSX the EVO's didnt have leather but regaurdless the interior is plain which has alot to do with the reason i purchased my TSX. Everytime i see an EVO i say..i could've gotten you but i love my TSX!..lol

 

 

Even the 6MT TL loses 40 hp?

 

12-15% for MT 18-20% for AT

 

i feel some troutslapping action here, so much, im not even goin to use the smiley here.

i wish there was a titanium exhuast made for our car, but i'm not about to ask companies to make one.

 

You cant mention the trout but not use it, haha, the trought smacking is pretty classic!

 

like i said in another post:

"some people like 4 doors.. some people like the look of the tsx.. some people like the navi and all the comfort features it offers.. some people love the interior.. I could have gotten an evo and smoked an s2k.. picked the tsx for a reason now a tsx + boost = that damn near perfect car everyone was talkin about when they said the tsx just needed 40 more hp to be 'perfect'... "

and tsx not a tuner car?? c'mon now.. its still an acura/honda it is a tuner car

 

Actually, I believe Mugen has one for the TSX.

 

yes mugen has the titanium one which costs about 1500 versus 650-800 for all the others made with stainless...

 

Well that might have something to do with the fact that Titanium is 7 times more expensive than stainless.

 

well yeah...anyways


bump for someone to scan the article....WE WANT SCANS

 

I'm not hating. I just don't have a job right now so I'm salty I can't dish out the money for a turbo. Just saying you're one of the select few who'd be really interested in the purchase, not enough to make HKS want to produce this kit. Eitherway, keep us up to date when you turbo your car.