300 hp TSX?
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300 hp TSX?
Does anyone think its possible to mod a tsx so much that you can get 300+hp
from the same engine w/o the help of nos?? i would love spanking tl's, 330i's, is350's, maximas, 350z's and all others who do not respect tsx's..![Crazy](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/crazy.gif)
if so what mods? starting with highest hp gains....
from the same engine w/o the help of nos?? i would love spanking tl's, 330i's, is350's, maximas, 350z's and all others who do not respect tsx's..
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if so what mods? starting with highest hp gains....
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Originally Posted by TSX420J
Does anyone think its possible to mod a tsx so much that you can get 300+hp
from the same engine w/o the help of nos?? i would love spanking tl's, 330i's, is350's, maximas, 350z's and all others who do not respect tsx's..![Crazy](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/crazy.gif)
if so what mods? starting with highest hp gains....
from the same engine w/o the help of nos?? i would love spanking tl's, 330i's, is350's, maximas, 350z's and all others who do not respect tsx's..
![Crazy](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/crazy.gif)
if so what mods? starting with highest hp gains....
Its possible.. You would have to go FI though.. so either a turbo or supercharger and your there
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Originally Posted by S14 n Tsx
stupid question1!~ I suggest you trade your car for something else..
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Originally Posted by TSX420J
what makes that a stupid question? .. an old turbo magazine had a 500hp crx but most power came from nos.. plus i like the look of the tsx over any of the cars i mentioned so i dont think i would trade it unless it was for a 5 seires bmw..
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Originally Posted by SilverBullet04
BTW you can get 300HP out of the K24. As other people have mentioned, FI is the way to do it.
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i know that the motor is a high compression engine, so a supercharger would be good for that but the comptech sc gives about 45 to 50hp (i believe ive read in this forum somewhere). you can replace intake, headers, exhaust, pulleys, cams but what else can we put on a supercharged k24 that will give enough hp to reach 300 or more. i would even like to see it go past 300....
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Originally Posted by TSX420J
i know that the motor is a high compression engine, so a supercharger would be good for that but the comptech sc gives about 45 to 50hp (i believe ive read in this forum somewhere). you can replace intake, headers, exhaust, pulleys, cams but what else can we put on a supercharged k24 that will give enough hp to reach 300 or more. i would even like to see it go past 300.... ![Wish](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/wish.gif)
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^^Getting that power to the road becomes a bigger challenge, so Limited Slip Diff and a better clutch pack becomes necessary with more HP and then you should also consider tranny internals, lighter half shafts, etc etc. So to GIBSON6594's point, money talks.
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Originally Posted by TSX420J
cool, what do you think could be max hp estimate for a k24 w/o blowing the engine to pieces ?
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Increase the air flow going to the engine (larger intake, less restrictive filter)
Reduce air temperature (CAI, gasket, TB bypass),
Increase compression (supercharger, turbocharger)
Increase fuel energy (race fuel, nitrous etc.)
Reduce engine rotational mass (flywheel)
Increase the exhaust flow away from the engine (header, exhaust, cat)
Reduce vehicle weight. (spare tire, back seat, carbon fiber)
Reduce wheel weight and circumference. (lighter rims and tires)
The more $$ you spend on each of these the faster the car will be
Reduce air temperature (CAI, gasket, TB bypass),
Increase compression (supercharger, turbocharger)
Increase fuel energy (race fuel, nitrous etc.)
Reduce engine rotational mass (flywheel)
Increase the exhaust flow away from the engine (header, exhaust, cat)
Reduce vehicle weight. (spare tire, back seat, carbon fiber)
Reduce wheel weight and circumference. (lighter rims and tires)
The more $$ you spend on each of these the faster the car will be
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Of course it's possible to get 300hp out of the TSX, it's just a matter of how much you want to spend and what comforts you want to lose. Check out this great article by Hondata on the subject: http://www.hondata.com/tuning_the_tsx.html
![](http://www.hondata.com/images/tsxtuning/dyno-supercharged-tsx-small.gif)
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Originally Posted by jlukja
Reduce wheel weight and circumference. (lighter rims and tires)
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Originally Posted by moda_way
This is a good point for the folks that have larger rims and a BBK. I was watching one of those "tuning" shows and they put a BBK and lighter rims on an RSX. Put it on the Dyno and saw a power loss even with their additional engine mods that were tuned for the car.
Wish they chose a TSX to play with rather than RSX.
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As said before Forced induction. Supercharger is probably the safest way, giving that if you turbo you have to tune fuel curves, boost pressure, etc. I'd say get the supercharger, slap on the bolt ons, apexi vtec controller, and then a front mount intercooler so you can up the boost a little.
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Originally Posted by aznt1217
As said before Forced induction. Supercharger is probably the safest way, giving that if you turbo you have to tune fuel curves, boost pressure, etc. I'd say get the supercharger, slap on the bolt ons, apexi vtec controller, and then a front mount intercooler so you can up the boost a little.
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1) Apexi doesn't work with our car.
2) FMIC with a supercharger?
3) The boost has been set at 5psi because the fuel system can't keep up, not because the intake charge is too hot.
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Originally Posted by PACman
Saw the same show...."Sports Car Revolution" on SPEED ch. Canadian based; I believe they tape in Toronto since they use Toronto Motorsports Park a lot.
Wish they chose a TSX to play with rather than RSX.
Wish they chose a TSX to play with rather than RSX.
Those guys are funny
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#22
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Of course it's possible to get 300hp out of the TSX, it's just a matter of how much you want to spend and what comforts you want to lose. Check out this great article by Hondata on the subject: http://www.hondata.com/tuning_the_tsx.html
![](http://www.hondata.com/images/tsxtuning/dyno-supercharged-tsx-small.gif)
![](http://www.hondata.com/images/tsxtuning/dyno-turbo-tsx-small.gif)
![](http://www.hondata.com/images/tsxtuning/dyno-supercharged-tsx-small.gif)
![](http://www.hondata.com/images/tsxtuning/dyno-turbo-tsx-small.gif)
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i guess im gonna have to start saving a lot after i do all my exterior mods....
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like everyone said, MONEY!!
you can put in Type R camshafts, bascially change most of the components in the engine to increase gas and air flow, and get a good shop to retune your engine, then it should get more horses. Or wait until a Better ECU comes out, like K-Pro or Stage 3 type like the Audi and Subarus~
you can put in Type R camshafts, bascially change most of the components in the engine to increase gas and air flow, and get a good shop to retune your engine, then it should get more horses. Or wait until a Better ECU comes out, like K-Pro or Stage 3 type like the Audi and Subarus~
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I think it would be very possible to get 300 whp. You would need to get an SC and run high boost though. The current SC is only running 5 psi boost, so if you ran like 8-9 psi, then you could probably get to 300 whp. Since K-Pro isn't out though, if you were serious about this, you would need to contact Hondata and see if they would be willing to do a custom reflash for you.
Here is a dyno of an RSX guy with the Comptech SC - 9psi / pump gas
I think he was putting down 325 whp with race gas.
Here is a dyno of an RSX guy with the Comptech SC - 9psi / pump gas
I think he was putting down 325 whp with race gas.
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Also, like everyone said above, when you have that much power, you need to start doing a lot of other things. LSD, clutch, and probably upgrade some of your engine internals. It's like a chain reaction. A very expensive one
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I dont think you would realy enjoy this, that much power in a front wheel drive car means alot of torqe steer. Additionaly without an LSD you would probalby spin your tires quiete a bit.
I have been in a 325hp civic and it was hella fast but not at all enjoyable off the track.
I have been in a 325hp civic and it was hella fast but not at all enjoyable off the track.
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Originally Posted by Zasker1
I dont think you would realy enjoy this, that much power in a front wheel drive car means alot of torqe steer. Additionaly without an LSD you would probalby spin your tires quiete a bit.
I have been in a 325hp civic and it was hella fast but not at all enjoyable off the track.
I have been in a 325hp civic and it was hella fast but not at all enjoyable off the track.
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Originally Posted by TSX420J
Does anyone think its possible to mod a tsx so much that you can get 300+hp
from the same engine w/o the help of nos?? i would love spanking tl's, 330i's, is350's, maximas, 350z's and all others who do not respect tsx's..![Crazy](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/crazy.gif)
if so what mods? starting with highest hp gains....
from the same engine w/o the help of nos?? i would love spanking tl's, 330i's, is350's, maximas, 350z's and all others who do not respect tsx's..
![Crazy](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/crazy.gif)
if so what mods? starting with highest hp gains....
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Originally Posted by TSX420J
Does anyone think its possible to mod a tsx so much that you can get 300+hp
from the same engine w/o the help of nos?? i would love spanking tl's, 330i's, is350's, maximas, 350z's and all others who do not respect tsx's..![Crazy](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/crazy.gif)
if so what mods? starting with highest hp gains....
from the same engine w/o the help of nos?? i would love spanking tl's, 330i's, is350's, maximas, 350z's and all others who do not respect tsx's..
![Crazy](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/crazy.gif)
if so what mods? starting with highest hp gains....
I don't respect TSX. You must understand people who buy TSX knows they're not buying it because of SPEED and HP. You bought the wrong car son.
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Originally Posted by AcuraDriver2006
I don't respect TSX. You must understand people who buy TSX knows they're not buying it because of SPEED and HP. You bought the wrong car son.
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Originally Posted by TSX420J
I bought the car because of looks and comfort. The speed is what kills me I just want to add a coulpe of more horses to the thing just to make it a little faster...Dont respect it if you dont want to son but that how people get slapped up by the sleeper...Oh yeah check the date on the last post before you post you just brought back an old thread... Noob ![Roll Eyes](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
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Your fellow TSX sleepers will still get spanked by my S/C TL. I welcome the challenge any day. I am assuming your TSX is stock and is trash talking to me hoping some TSX owners with a S/C to back your crap up? LMAO. I respect your car when TSX folks say they bought it for "value" and "comfort". It's another story when someone wants to pick on G35, TL, or 350Z. Get my point?
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based on your comment
"i would love spanking tl's, 330i's, is350's, maximas, 350z's and all others who do not respect tsx's.. "
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Originally Posted by AcuraDriver2006
Noob, I've been lurking this forum for 3 years before I signed up. If you read my comments (above). You'll notice when I say "I don't respect TSX" is referring to those who tries to race me, and not in general. So relax and take a chill pill.
Your fellow TSX sleepers will still get spanked by my S/C TL. I welcome the challenge any day. I am assuming your TSX is stock and is trash talking to me hoping some TSX owners with a S/C to back your crap up? LMAO. I respect your car when TSX folks say they bought it for "value" and "comfort". It's another story when someone wants to pick on G35, TL, or 350Z. Get my point?![Roll Eyes](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
based on your comment
"i would love spanking tl's, 330i's, is350's, maximas, 350z's and all others who do not respect tsx's.. "
Your fellow TSX sleepers will still get spanked by my S/C TL. I welcome the challenge any day. I am assuming your TSX is stock and is trash talking to me hoping some TSX owners with a S/C to back your crap up? LMAO. I respect your car when TSX folks say they bought it for "value" and "comfort". It's another story when someone wants to pick on G35, TL, or 350Z. Get my point?
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based on your comment
"i would love spanking tl's, 330i's, is350's, maximas, 350z's and all others who do not respect tsx's.. "
yeah my car has no engine mods yet, but just wait buddy i only started to mod this year and Im getting pretty ahead of myself... The only reason i listed those cars are because people from those forums seem to pick on TSX's since they dont have power but what they dont know is that a little thing called a s/c would shut them the fuck up.....
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Originally Posted by TSX420J
yeah my car has no engine mods yet, but just wait buddy i only started to mod this year and Im getting pretty ahead of myself... The only reason i listed those cars are because people from those forums seem to pick on TSX's since they dont have power but what they dont know is that a little thing called a s/c would shut them the fuck up.....
edit: dont take this one personal this only directed to the ignorant people that know nothing of the capabilities of a k24...
#39
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I agree, even 300hp is still going to get spanked by a rwd car such as the g35 or 350z. Have you ever been in a 350z, the interior is terrible.
Oh yea
TL 5k more than the TSX, theres a reason.
350Z 8-12k more than the TSX
G35 5k more than the TSX, theres a reason, most new ones I have seen are closer to 10k more than a TSX.
I am all for a faster TSX but most of us did not buy this car with the intent of "slapping" around cars that cost 5-15k more, we would have jsut bought faster cars.
Oh yea
TL 5k more than the TSX, theres a reason.
350Z 8-12k more than the TSX
G35 5k more than the TSX, theres a reason, most new ones I have seen are closer to 10k more than a TSX.
I am all for a faster TSX but most of us did not buy this car with the intent of "slapping" around cars that cost 5-15k more, we would have jsut bought faster cars.
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Originally Posted by Zasker1
I agree, even 300hp is still going to get spanked by a rwd car such as the g35 or 350z. Have you ever been in a 350z, the interior is terrible.
Oh yea
TL 5k more than the TSX, theres a reason.
350Z 8-12k more than the TSX
G35 5k more than the TSX, theres a reason, most new ones I have seen are closer to 10k more than a TSX.
I am all for a faster TSX but most of us did not buy this car with the intent of "slapping" around cars that cost 5-15k more, we would have jsut bought faster cars.
Oh yea
TL 5k more than the TSX, theres a reason.
350Z 8-12k more than the TSX
G35 5k more than the TSX, theres a reason, most new ones I have seen are closer to 10k more than a TSX.
I am all for a faster TSX but most of us did not buy this car with the intent of "slapping" around cars that cost 5-15k more, we would have jsut bought faster cars.
I used to have a IS300 and I loved it but I like the body of the tsx especially when it has a mugen kit on it. IMO it looks hotter than all those cars i mentioned thats why i got it. I really dont like any of the new models that are out or that were out when i got my tsx. and as for not getting a TL i dont believe in getting a FWD 6CYL if Im gonna have a 6 CYL it better be AWD or RWD...