dippyduck

Test drove a 2005 Acura TL. Car seemed nice enough, but not as solid over the bumps as I had hoped.

I hadn't even considered the Tsx, however I couldn't help but admire the build quality in the showroom. The Tsx seemed quote roomy and much more solidly built than the TL. How is the Tsx ride compared to the TL? Is the NAVI the same in both the Tsx and TL? What is the advantage of the TL over the Tsx?

RMATIC09

run a search.

elduderino

http://autos.msn.com/research/compar...11040&v=m10737

elduderino

My certified used TSX:

Whiskers

Got to ask, are you really 86 years old?

And yes, same Navi but the TL has some additional voice commands to accomidate for bluetooth and XM.

kurt_bradley

TSX: built in Japan.
TL: built in Ohio.

Let's start there.

sipark

Guys, come on.. give him a break... He's just asking for your opinion..

I test drove TL this evening as well and I seriously have a dillema now. My family wants me to get a TL and said they'll contribute about 3 grand to make up the difference... Now, as much as I love the TSX, I can't ignore this offer..

I don't really want to ask you which would you prefer, as something like this probably had been asked numerous times, but sharing my story with you all..

Whiskers

I think the answer is obvious. Maybe they can give you 15 grand towards the RL

mg7726

TSX: more nimble, better handling, curves makes you grin and smile
TL: more power, not better handling, straights makes you smile

both come with shitty tires; feature wise, do a search for comparison

Belzebutt

Well, I didn't buy the TL because:
1. It's more expensive (not a big deal for you).
2. No folding rear seats: that was reason enough for me to drop it.
3. Higher fuel consumption.
4. 200 hp is enough for me, is it enough for you?
5. I wanted a small sporty sedan, the TL is and feels bigger.
6. I liked the interior of the TSX better, the layout of the trim, the sunglass holder, it just seemed to fit my taste better.
7. Last but no least, I really prefer the styling of the TSX.

I think when you're paying extra for the TL what you're mostly getting is the much bigger engine and giving up a bit of handling, you just have to ask if you want that or not.

sipark

I had my mom almost drool when I had her sit in RL.. .But, I don't think that's going to happen.

AlterZgo

WTF were they thinking. This is such a bad decision. Just like how Infiniti makes the G35 sedan w/o folding rear seats but, for some reason, the G35 coupe HAS the folding rear seats. What's up with that?! You'd think people who are in the market for 4 door sedans would prefer as much utility out of their cars as possible.

Godwhacker

Its all a matter of taste. I went out to buy a TL, and instead went away with a TSX. This is my opinoin:

The TSX is a more balanced car, and some (including myself) think its handling is better. The TL has more horsepower, but with that horsepower comes more torque steer (that pulling on the steering wheel you get with front wheel drive cars with high HP when doing tight turns at high speed). I also think you get a better "feel for the road" with the TSX, as well as more of a sense of where the car is in terms of its limits. The TL, to me, felt a bit numb in the above regards. The trade off is that the TL has a softer ride and is a bit quieter.

gfxdave99

OMG, just lock this thread now. This horse has been beaten to death so much theres nothing left to beat.

RMATIC09

, tsx is known to be nimbler, and although 70 less hp, pulls third the time as a TL in 0-60. TL is about 14.9 6MT 0-60 and TSX is about 5.6 0-60 5AT.

I kid you not.

03CoupeV6

I must be missing something?

sipark

rmatic =

fear

English as a third language..... (or fourth?)

MrChad

Don't confuse the Honda mfg. of America plants with other big 3 plants.
I've been through the Honda- Anna Engine plant (Ohio) and other's like it.
It is simply the most amazing attention to detail I've ever seen In building an engine. I don't know how a type-R could be better?
My visits were not group tours; my visits were on company business.
So I was behind the scene in great detail.

I've actually taken apart components on both US and Japanesse made Accords of the same models-years. And often times I find the US components to be better made IMO. I wouldn't let build of origin be the factor in my Honda-Acura purchase.

If anything I find some below the surface components (in the dash) to rust more quickly on the Japanesse mfg. pieces. I'm not sure if this is steel origin related or the trip in the contianer ship over salt water. But in any case Ohio built is not a bad thing. If anything I've seen a higher number of Japanesse recalls in the media vs. USDM.

TSX 'R' US

If you want a more sportier ride, the TSX wins
if you want a more cushy ride, the TL wins

just a matter of what you prefer. And of course, more power = TL

sipark

welcome, .
what a way to introduce yourself.


EDIT: My thousandth post!

Whiskers

Maybe one of RMATIC09's many usernames

Whiskers

Congrats on 1000.

gfxdave99

But you get laid more if you have a TSX.

RMATIC09

darth62

I think the perceived quality difference in the TSX and TL is a bit of nonsense, to be honest. I've not seen one whit of evidence that Honda products built in the states are any less reliable than Honda products built in Japan. My last two cars were Accords - one built in Ohio, and one built in Japan. They were both very reliable, very well built cars.

RMATIC09

swami

I think the old dude fell asleep.

dizzy1

After getting 416 miles on a tank and only taking 15 gallons to fill, I am glad I got the TSX over the TL especially when gas is about 2.30 for premium

sipark

'05 brochure says auto TSX gets 31 mpg and auto TL gets 29 mpg.
But, it's 29 mpg for both 6MT TSX and TL.

matelot

too much eels ? :blaze:

CGTSX2004

iTrader: (1)

Actually, I think overuse of the smiley has resulted in a degradation of his english skills to the point where that's the only thing he is able to say.

sipark

I wouldn't be surprised if he has smiley copied in memory and does Ctrl+'V' everytime he posts..

Whiskers

I already asked the mods to remove his button, but no luck.....

loulinjai

Theres a reason why Acura choose how to name their cars.
I agree TSX is a much sportier ride, with harder double wishbone suspensions, and it rides a touch lower than the TL.
I think the features says it all. a 3 spoke steering wheel vs the 4 spoke?
The deeper pocketed seats?
The name says it all too I mean..*SX...(rsx, tsx, nsx), its just the name Acura uses for its platform
Vs (tl, cl, rl)...you get the idea.

RMATIC09

hilow miy namme ist RmaTicc . I like to be P double U.

sauceman

Are you meaning to say that the RSX, TSX and NSX all share a common platform?

Not so: The RSX's platform is NOT the same as a TSX's, it has the same base as a Civic's.

The TSX's and RSX's platforms are NOT the same as that of an NSX, as a Mid-Rear engine layout obviously needs very very different specifications as that of an FWD.

CGTSX2004

iTrader: (1)

And just to further elaborate on sauceman's point, the naming scheme is based around the the intended purpose of the car. Sportier cars get the -SX suffix and more luxury oriented cars get the -L suffix.

It has nothing to do with the platform.

dom

You guys sure? I could have sworn the TSX and NSX shared a platform and engine

jcg878

with the MDX also