Originally Posted by nagidizy

I heretofore duly promise to boldly emblazon all dubious postings with CAUTION and various other eye-catching indicators of forthcoming mirth and parody.

Originally Posted by Black_6spd

For a minute there, I thought I was listening to an episode of Dawson's Creek.

Originally Posted by sauceman

Boring factor of Buicks offsets everything IMO.

Anyway, it's been already said and is pretty conceivable how Buick owners would be a lot less picky about their cars and would tend to notice problems with their cars because they really don't give a shit about it: as long as it brings them from point A to B.

Originally Posted by dom

The fanboy is strong in this thread.

Originally Posted by dom

I guess Lexus owners aren't picky at all then? I mean, we can all agree that Lexus builds the most reliable car on the planet and most surveys support that. But when Buick does nearly as well on those same surveys suddenly others factors are at play......Doesn't add up, sorry.

Originally Posted by sauceman

Can't help it...



I would never argue about Lexus reliability. I have no difficulty imagining they're on top of the food chain in the reliability department.

What's to Lexus credit is that they probably have as many enthusiasts as customers as Acura does, maybe even more and they still are #1. I have to give it to them that it's impressive.

Buick? Enthusiasts?

Besides, you're comparing Buick with Lexus. Isn't that just as laughable? Numbers can say anything.

Originally Posted by dom

I'm not comparing anything. The numbers show that Buick is more reliable than Acura. Now wheather those numbers are valid But if everyone can argue that Lexus is reliable based off those numbers than I'll argue that Buick is reliable based off those same numbers.

There are no numbers or facts available to support your theory that Buick driver's don't report problems so its not a valid argument IMO its a guess. I've had more problems with my TSX than I can shake a stick at yet I didn't return my JD survey.

Originally Posted by sauceman

Obviously no numbers. But it doesn't take a genius to reach those conclusions either.

One could go by deduction based on other data like the average age of Buick owners. I mean, at age 65, do you really think they all still hear those rattles? And hear the brakes squeal? Do you actually think they'll drive hard enough to warp the rotors?

I know we can't assume on how much Buick owners care about their cars. But it would be pretty to believe they are comparable to Acura or Lexus drivers.

Originally Posted by dom

What do you think the average age of Lexus LS and ES owners is ? I bet its closer to 65 than it is to 30.

Originally Posted by sauceman

I just have a hard time believing Buick in particular would fare so well while the rest of GM is way

Originally Posted by dom

So do I, but its not what the numbers show. And from what I hear GM engines and trannies (6 cylinder and I stress 6 cylinder) are reliable. Its everything else that has some problems.

Originally Posted by nagidizy

I am having a hard time choosing between a TSX and a Buick Century for my next new car. They are both sedans, have engines, steering wheels, and are for sale on my planet. The TSX appeals because of its availability in my favorite color, white, but then again, the Buick is also available in white, too. Plus, the Buick is more comforting to look at; the TSX sometimes scares me.

I was wondering if you TSX owners have any experience you can share concerning how comfortable the back seat of the TSX is for people like my grandparents or their parents? I really like the waddling, floating feeling going over bumps, you know the slow and peaceful rocking motion as if you were encased in forty feet of pillows wrapped in cotton swabs. I am afraid that the TSX will send unpleasant road sensations; I hate being reminded that I'm driving or in a car or something distasteful like that.

Also, my friends say the TSX isn't as good as the Buick. They all have sensible cars like Buick Centurys, Mercury Marquis, or Pagini Zondas (did I spell that last one right ... those crazy Peruvians and their last names ...). They reminded me that I can't get OnStar in the TSX, so really bad accidents will happen to me, like if I fall down in the living room and can't reach the phone and no one will come and turn Lawrence Welk on for me.

Anyway, please let me know soon, as I am planning on this purchase any day now since I heard of the "employee discounts' GM is having. Also, I am thinking of getting a Scamp or Roundabout, like my good friend, Bernice.

Originally Posted by raynord

How the hell can the engineers and stylists for Buick feel any pride in their work.