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09-13-2004, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by domn
Then what the hell am I doing wrong? My wheels are covered in brake dust even after taking a quick 2 minute trip to the variety store?
09-14-2004, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ClutchPerformer
How tall are you?
I am 6'2" with disproportionally long legs.
Damn!
09-14-2004, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by sol-tsx
I've never, ever had a problem with the brakes on my TSX, even in emergency stops. I agree with the others above who say it's the tires. The OEM Michelins are crap.
I've never had a problem with the TSX's stopping power, and I really like the brake feel (Accord brakes are too sensitive for my taste). In the one or two cases where I really had to stomp on the brakes in my TSX, the ABS kicked in (on dry pavement).
I feel a tire upgrade would improve braking distance by a noticable/significant amount.
09-14-2004, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by The Hoth
Just imagine you were driving 70 mph on the high way, other people in Volvo T5, BMW 3, Audi 1.8T, Subaru on the highway are driving at the same speed. All of you saw an obstacle at the same time. All of you slammed on the brakes at the same time.
Also, in your above hypothetical, what will make even more difference than sheer braking power is:
1) reaction time: no way a group of freeway drivers all slam their brakes on at the same time. If you're alert, you'll more than make up for a 20ft difference. How often do you cover 20ft at 70mph? Like once every .5 second? So a half second reaction time diff makes a big diff in real world braking.
2) braking style. I read a study that the average driver does not know how to use ABS brakes properly, especially if steering is needed during panic braking. Basically, most people are afraid of locking up the brakes, so they don't do what is needed, which is to stomp on it like you want to put it through the floor. And if most people need to steer during a panic stop, they generally reduce brake pressure, which again is not correct with ABS.
So besides buying new tires, your second-best investment would be a 3 day Bondurant driving class. EVERYONE thinks they're a better driver than they really are. Only when you do a high performance driving school do you realize how much room for improvement there is.
By the way, IMO you should think twice about your list of desired mods (brembos, lightweight hood, trunk, battery, titanium exhaust, etc.). I mean, the stock TSX is a big step up from your Passat in terms of chassis refinement. Of course, I could see upgrading the wheels/tires, but I'd think twice before doing the more exotic stuff. You already have an S2000; when you want true high performance driving, don't pour huge $$ into the TSX, just drive the S2000! It's an incredible car, especially the '04!
Or just sell both cars and get an M3. I love the TSX, but an M3....
09-15-2004, 12:31 PM
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Dude, of course this hypothetical case means all other conditions include driver reation time remain the same. Otherwise this comparison just won't work.
M3 is tempting. It is really tempting. Another two years right? I think I can wait.
Also, in your above hypothetical, what will make even more difference than sheer braking power is:
1) reaction time: no way a group of freeway drivers all slam their brakes on at the same time. If you're alert, you'll more than make up for a 20ft difference. How often do you cover 20ft at 70mph? Like once every .5 second? So a half second reaction time diff makes a big diff in real world braking........................................... ...............................................
..................Or just sell both cars and get an M3. I love the TSX, but an M3....[/QUOTE]
M3 is tempting. It is really tempting. Another two years right? I think I can wait.
Also, in your above hypothetical, what will make even more difference than sheer braking power is:
1) reaction time: no way a group of freeway drivers all slam their brakes on at the same time. If you're alert, you'll more than make up for a 20ft difference. How often do you cover 20ft at 70mph? Like once every .5 second? So a half second reaction time diff makes a big diff in real world braking........................................... ...............................................
..................Or just sell both cars and get an M3. I love the TSX, but an M3....
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09-15-2004, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by acoga
First, I agree with the others that the most reasonable upgrade is tires. 1) reaction time: no way a group of freeway drivers all slam their brakes on at the same time. If you're alert, you'll more than make up for a 20ft difference. How often do you cover 20ft at 70mph? Like once every .5 second? So a half second reaction time diff makes a big diff in real world braking.
10-02-2004, 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by supraken
I'm with you..... everytime when I brake a little hard, it feels like the forward momentum decrease too slowly or car is not going to stop in time..... and when I tested the brakes on TSX loaner 
, I stomped on the brake from 40mph and it didn't slow down the wheels/car enough so that the tires will make a difference....no ABS kick in, no loss of traction with tires.... just not enough braking power....
I'm sure some better tires are needed too tho....
, I stomped on the brake from 40mph and it didn't slow down the wheels/car enough so that the tires will make a difference....no ABS kick in, no loss of traction with tires.... just not enough braking power....I'm sure some better tires are needed too tho....
Yes, it's just your feeling. But the car is designed that way. It's designed so that it resists nose-diving when the brake pedal is hammered... giving you the feeling that the car's not stopping right!
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