darth62

The AT retains it's value much better, at least in the states. This is true for virtually any sedan on the road. The optimal TSX resale value is actually for the AT WITHOUT NAV. I can't recall where I read that, but I think that is the model that retains value best.

Personally, I see that as a non-issue though. If I didn't live in Los Angeles, I'd be driving the manual. you should get what you want to drive, and worry about resale later. Its only going to be a few hundred dollars either direction anyway. Just like with the NAV - I bought it knowing I'd never get my money back for it and I couldn't care less.

jlukja

That is all.

bradykp

get rid of most of the road noise with better tires. as for engine noise, i don't hear whatever you're hearing, so i don't know what you're talking about there.

TSXGOTME

I agree that the TSX is underpower for its class but it still holds its own and the styling in my opinion is far better than most of the competition.

Tubulus

Recently got my new 06 with Nav for a little more than an Accord V6 would have been. It's not as strong, but for my daily commute it really doesn't make a difference, and the better sound, bluetooth, split rear seats, ipod jack, slightly nicer interior, and better handling made it worth it. True, it's no 3-series, and not even a TL, but for 29k (damn NY taxes) out the door I can't imagine anything that would have beat it.

Black_6spd

I think the better question is:

Are the TSX's competitors overrated?

- BMW 325i
- Lexus is250
- Mercedes Benz C230
- Audi 2.0T

ALL of those are just about identical in acceleration at around 10k more. And yeah -- I know we could split hairs over something being .000021 seconds faster, but the bottom line is NONE of them blow the doors off.

Although I know this 'underpowered' complaint gets hashed often, I think many folks forget that Honda/Acura ALWAYS lags behind in that department and they have gone on record saying they don't care.

Remember when the NSX came out? It was 'underpowered' compared to the other Japanese flagships such as the Nissan 300Z, Mitsubishi 3000GT, and Toyota Supra all pushing 300HP+.

10 years after the dust had settled, the NSX sits timeless while the other unbalanced "supercars" went out of style quicker than a mullet with aqua net.

waTSX

Good post man

Mokos23

Wow, you're a real Acura/Honda enthusist!

bradykp

i dunno about the supra and the 3000gt, i think a lot of people still love those. i wouldnt call them out of style.

but i agree with your overall point.

i don't think it's over rated in any way. people know what it is. a nice value choice in a sector that doesnt have any. yeah, lexus leather is nicer. yeah, bmw is more of a driving machine. you can spit out all the plusses of the other cars (including the mercedes and the audi), but the bottom line is, thhe acura TSX does each category reasonably well. i don't know if i would say the TSX has the best anything when compared to those cars (except maybe navi and a few other things i'm sure people could point out), but the bottom line is, it has a pretty darn good EVERYTHING, all for 5-10k less. so how is it even possible it's over rated?

rb1

Yup, this is what put me over the edge when I was mulling my purchase. I liked the car despite its few quirks (large turning radius was my main pet peeve), and there weren't many comparably equipped cars anywhere near the price. (The closest was a Jetta GLI... )

dom

Amen.

Black_6spd

Once and for all...

Is the 2nd gen TL-P really quicker (acceleration) than the 6MT TSX? Also, I see tons of stock 2nd-gen TL's in the other forum claiming the TSX is too slow.

I drove my ex-bosses' TL and it felt like a dog -- even in SS mode. My TSX feels like it will take it pretty easy.