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Old 07-31-2006 | 11:27 PM
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TSX or G35 coupe

Ok, I am really stuck on a decision and I would like honest advice. I am in the market for a new car and looked at the TSx 6 sp. It is in my price range if I were to buy the car. I pretty much decided on the car when I just thought to take a ride over to Infiniti where they had a used g35 for sale. To make a long story short, the best deal at Infiniti was their lease. It was 299 mo +tax (320/mo) 2995 down. That was for the automatic with premium. After going back and forth for a couple of days, I decided if I were to get my dream car, I would want it with the spoiler, correct color interior and 6sp. vs settling for the cheapest model. 6sp. comes with packaging and does increase the price of the car but they wanted 350 per mo. with same amount down. Buying the TSX would be 375/mo with 5000 down. I declined due to having to buy snow tires to replace the 19 inchers and extra money on insurance. It is a 2 year lease. Out the door cash over the 2 years would be just about the same. However, I would own the TSX, g35 I would have to give back or refinance. I am just wondering if I made a bad choice giving up that deal for a car that costs 10k more for the same price during the 2 year time fram. Anyone get in a jam with leasing?

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Old 07-31-2006 | 11:39 PM
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As much as I love the G35, I wouldn't get a new or used one now, after seeing how hot the '07's are.

Unless you have a need for speed, and get an incredible deal on the G35 (and if it's an '05+ with the upgraded interior), I would go with a new TSX.

Plus the one you're talking about is an automatic
Old 07-31-2006 | 11:59 PM
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Talk about two very different cars, that are not even close to being in the same league.

If you are going to get a car, make sure that: a) you get exactly the options you want, or you will suffer buyer's remorse, and b) you are within your budget. If you are complaining about paying the same for the two cars, but you would only be able to lease one of the two, then you probably should stay away from it since it seems to be out of your budget.

That being said, I would take the hot G35c over the TSX in a heartbeat, but I am not married, no kids to tote around and I have no need for extra space. The TSX is slow as dogshit, don't let anyone in here tell you that it is quick because they are lying. The engine loves to rev, but you don't go anywhere. I think 2 nicest things about the TSX are the handling and the options, but the latter can be said about any Acura. The auto G35c is STILL a better car than the 6mt TSX.

I will agree with psteng19 though, I like the concept shots of the 07 G35c, if you haven't seen them check them out. When that is released I plan on getting rid of the CL and leasing that. If you really liked the current G35 style, which is still sexy, you should wait till the year end to get a better deal on the 06 models.

TSX:
pro: amenities, handling, interior
con: weak, looks like a baby tl(which it is), not original

G35c:
pro: sex on wheels, great body, power, handling, probably has better resale, will make you feel better when you have a bad day
con: small trunk, don't even try to get in the back seat, interior has gotten better in the last two models, but it still isn't as nice

Why not compare the TL to the G35, that would be a little more fair.
Old 08-01-2006 | 12:07 AM
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i would not get a used '03 - '04. quality is just not there...if you can overlook those it handles great. add couple of dead hookers and snow tires, works great in the winter too.

- rattles (dealer 4 times)
- rattles on the rearview mirror
- bose cd headunit skips, dealer refurbished, still skips
- their navi sucks (personal opinion)
- TSX 6MT >> G35 MT
- VQ drinks gas like an alocoholic (personal opinion)
Old 08-01-2006 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by mg7726
i would not get a used '03 - '04. quality is just not there...if you can overlook those it handles great. add couple of dead hookers and snow tires, works great in the winter too.

- rattles (dealer 4 times)
- rattles on the rearview mirror
- bose cd headunit skips, dealer refurbished, still skips
- their navi sucks (personal opinion)
- TSX 6MT >> G35 MT
- VQ drinks gas like an alocoholic (personal opinion
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I would not get a used 03 or 04 either, the interior update on the 05 & 06s are much better. I have the keys to an 04 G35 as well.

I have absolutely NO rattles, EVER. I have never heard my cd changer skip, in fact the stock Bose unit in the G w/ sub is outstanding. The navi is not as nice as the one in the Acura, I will give you that, but it is still very functional. The TSX 6mt > G35mt??? You are out of your mind. DUH the VQ drinks gas, it's a V6 vs. a 4cyl. My G35 has 25K so I think I would have heard a rattle by now or the cd skipping, right? Everyone on this forum knows that Acura has the ghetto rattles, my old ass Accord never rattled and neither does the G, it is pretty solid.
Old 08-01-2006 | 12:19 AM
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Leasing is a bad idea for anything. You don't really own the car...it's a way for the dealership to rent the car to you. They find all sorts of things to charge you at the end of your lease (at least that's what everyone who has leased told me). Leasing is just a way for people who want a status symbol that they can't personally afford. The only good thing about leasing is that if you have the money to throw away, you can have a new car every 2 years.

I'd rather own a cheaper car than rent a more expensive one.
Old 08-01-2006 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by mg7726
i would not get a used '03 - '04. quality is just not there...if you can overlook those it handles great. add couple of dead hookers and snow tires, works great in the winter too.

- rattles (dealer 4 times)
- rattles on the rearview mirror
- bose cd headunit skips, dealer refurbished, still skips
- their navi sucks (personal opinion)
- TSX 6MT >> G35 MT
- VQ drinks gas like an alocoholic (personal opinion)
I wouldn't let rattles deter you from getting a car you want.
As with any car, including Acura's and TSX's, rattles are hit and miss. Some get them, some won't.
My TSX has a steering column rattle, as well as a couple rattles in the A pillar when playing bassy music. Personally, it doesn't bother me much.

NAV is subjective, and yes, the VQ is thirsty, but you get what you pay for which is superior performance.

But I definitely agree on the shifter. The Honda is smoother, whereas the Nissan is more notchy.
Old 08-01-2006 | 12:27 AM
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Leasing is a bad idea for anything. You don't really own the car...it's a way for the dealership to rent the car to you. They find all sorts of things to charge you at the end of your lease (at least that's what everyone who has leased told me). Leasing is just a way for people who want a status symbol that they can't personally afford. The only good thing about leasing is that if you have the money to throw away, you can have a new car every 2 years.

I'd rather own a cheaper car than rent a more expensive one.
Not necessarily true.
There's definitely advantages for some to lease, over owning.

A car with a high residual value will have lower monthly lease payments than owning.
And if you file a 1099, you can write off lease payments as a business expense.
Old 08-01-2006 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SoCaliTrojan
Leasing is a bad idea for anything. You don't really own the car...it's a way for the dealership to rent the car to you. They find all sorts of things to charge you at the end of your lease (at least that's what everyone who has leased told me). Leasing is just a way for people who want a status symbol that they can't personally afford. The only good thing about leasing is that if you have the money to throw away, you can have a new car every 2 years.

I'd rather own a cheaper car than rent a more expensive one.

True you don't own, but there are many benefits to leasing as well:

-Lower monthly payments compared to conventional financing
-Leasing means you only pay for the portion/life of the car you “use”
-Leasing is cheaper when it comes to taxes since you are only paying for a portion
-Leasing allows you to drive the car of your dreams & not just settle
-You have the ability to drive a more expensive car for less
-Some leases qualify for tax reductions
-Leasing keeps more of your cash available for other investments/purchases
-GAP coverage is automatically included in leases
Old 08-01-2006 | 01:16 AM
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I got cheaper rates on my lease than if I was to finance. Honda gave me about 1.9 for my money factor for 3 years.
Old 08-01-2006 | 01:18 AM
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The G35 MT has some of the worse MT shift gates I've ever tried. Its click, click, click into each gate and not at all smooth like a Acura/Honda.
Old 08-01-2006 | 01:24 AM
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I was in the same position looking at the 2 and 4 door G35's. I love how the inifiniti drives, its defintley faster, but that interior of the infiniti I couldn't take. It screams plastic and I know the bmw's have orange gauges, yeah thats cool, but it looks like garbage compared to the TSX gauges, plus has a really nice trip computer in the middle. Also.. its hard to compare a 2 door sports car to a 4 door..(psst... get the tsx and make it look like the black one on the Acura.com website)
Old 08-01-2006 | 02:28 AM
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go for the G35, i wanted that.
Old 08-01-2006 | 03:32 AM
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G35 is great, I was about to get one...

The interior of the TSX absolutely blew away the G35's, speed was definately there but I was looking for refinement.
Old 08-01-2006 | 07:45 AM
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I actually made this comparison, different cars or not. A "slightly used" G35c was not that much more than the TSX. Just about $4000? I forget.

As for the G35c, I figured that the reliability probably wouldn't be as good as the Acura, of course, but that wasn't my main concern. It had gobs of power, and was a monster of a car. Looked really cool. And the backseat was just about unusable. Not just the usual crawling over to get at the rear seat, just that there was no headroom. Not like 2" short, no, I had to hunch over when I was in the back seat! Who is supposed to be able to sit in this thing? 4 year olds?

Anyway, performance-wise, it is in another league, but the interior is not inspiring, almost cheap feeling, and you pay a lot if you don't need the power and inconvenience. It was really too much power for me, if that makes sense.

With the TSX, you get a much more usable car for passengers and storage, and there's just enough power. I'm sure the MT makes a big difference.

As for looking like a 4 door, some people at work were swearing I had a 2-door. Heh. It's just so sporty looking it SEEMS like it should be a 2-door coupe!
Old 08-01-2006 | 08:43 AM
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I think you made the right choice buying the TSX. I too was faced with a similar problem when I bought my TSX in Jan. 06. I was looking for a sporty coupe that wasn't a teen racer. And the G35, Nissan 350Z, and the BMW 3 series were the three cars I was looking at. I wasn't going to be able to afford those cars new, the were all going to be around 34-40,000 after I got the options I wanted, so I started to look at the used car market. Then I came across the TSX and found that I could buy it new, it had all of the features I wanted, GREAT GAS MILEAGE, and it was well below the other cars I was looking at. So I bought it the TSX that same day!
Old 08-01-2006 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TallyCL-S
The TSX is slow as dogshit, don't let anyone in here tell you that it is quick because they are lying. The engine loves to rev, but you don't go anywhere.



Depends on one's perspective.
Old 08-01-2006 | 09:23 AM
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I really like the G35c's. I test drove one with a friend, but didn't buy one because:

A) the backseat on the coupe was horrible. Even my head touched the rear window and I'm 5'7". I really don't like the looks of the sedan at all.
B) We test drove an automatic and it was clunking every few minutes. The salesman said, "Oh they do that from time to time." I said, what??? 35,000 car with a clunky automatic. Made me a little nervous about everything else.
C) I couldn't avoid buying another Honda product. It's my family's 4th and we've never had major problems. They just run and run.

I really liked the engine though, loved the looks, interior was so-so. Guess you could get a steal on an '06 right after the '07s come out.

In the end they are compeletely different cars with completely different demeanors. Good choice either way though
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Are you surprised I haven't posted yet in here Dom?

Wait for the 07 G35's which has a nicer interior, TSXesque gauges, more hp and torque, and better styling.
Old 08-01-2006 | 09:49 AM
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This is useless unless your thinking about buying TSX vs G35 not buy vs lease (throwing money away 24months).
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
Are you surprised I haven't posted yet in here Dom?

Wait for the 07 G35's which has a nicer interior, TSXesque gauges, more hp and torque, and better styling.

No but I'm surprised you leave the next gen G35 thread.

A it stands the next gen G35 may be my next car as well. Probly in 2010-11 though and probly slightly used.
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yeah i am definately considering G35 as my next ride down the road as well, i want to go back to highpower RWD
Old 08-01-2006 | 12:25 PM
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TSX vs G35c

As an owner of a G35c and someone who cross shopped the TSX, I figured I would add my opinion.

Personally if your situation allows you to own/lease the G35c you should go for it. I absolutely will concede that the G35c's interior is not as nice, and it is more expensive. It also drinks more fuel which is fair.

However I cannot describe the smile the car brings to my face when accelerating on an onramp with the windows down. The sounds, the feel, the grin on my face. It is all worth it.

However only you can be the judge. The TSX is definately the practical choice. However, I bought my G35c. Once is it paid off, I will probobly by a FIT as my second car or something for the winter. But for now, its one of the best purchases I ever made.
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Originally Posted by samualcc
As an owner of a G35c and someone who cross shopped the TSX, I figured I would add my opinion.

Personally if your situation allows you to own/lease the G35c you should go for it. I absolutely will concede that the G35c's interior is not as nice, and it is more expensive. It also drinks more fuel which is fair.

However I cannot describe the smile the car brings to my face when accelerating on an onramp with the windows down. The sounds, the feel, the grin on my face. It is all worth it.

However only you can be the judge. The TSX is definately the practical choice. However, I bought my G35c. Once is it paid off, I will probobly by a FIT as my second car or something for the winter. But for now, its one of the best purchases I ever made.
Don't get a Fit dude, get an 2nd gen TSX by then
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
Are you surprised I haven't posted yet in here Dom?

Wait for the 07 G35's which has a nicer interior, TSXesque gauges, more hp and torque, and better styling.
And expect the price to be about $10k more.
Old 08-01-2006 | 02:20 PM
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Yeah expect there to be a waiting list for the next gen coupe, just like with the 1st gen. Also expect to pay at or near MSRP for the first 6 to 12 months
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
And expect the price to be about $10k more.
For a fully loaded G35 yes, but I want to just get one with 1 or 2 options.
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
For a fully loaded G35 yes, but I want to just get one with 1 or 2 options.
And that's you. The OP wasn't looking to spend $10k more than the TSX. Even with just a few options, expect the selling price of a G35 to be a couple thousand more.
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Originally Posted by samualcc
As an owner of a G35c and someone who cross shopped the TSX, I figured I would add my opinion.

Personally if your situation allows you to own/lease the G35c you should go for it. I absolutely will concede that the G35c's interior is not as nice, and it is more expensive. It also drinks more fuel which is fair.

However I cannot describe the smile the car brings to my face when accelerating on an onramp with the windows down. The sounds, the feel, the grin on my face. It is all worth it.

However only you can be the judge. The TSX is definately the practical choice. However, I bought my G35c. Once is it paid off, I will probobly by a FIT as my second car or something for the winter. But for now, its one of the best purchases I ever made.
plus, chicks dig the car
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Originally Posted by BulldogHockey
I really like the G35c's. I test drove one with a friend, but didn't buy one because:

A) the backseat on the coupe was horrible. Even my head touched the rear window and I'm 5'7". I really don't like the looks of the sedan at all.
B) We test drove an automatic and it was clunking every few minutes. The salesman said, "Oh they do that from time to time." I said, what??? 35,000 car with a clunky automatic. Made me a little nervous about everything else.

A) I am 6'1" and I fit in the G35C just fine. The sedan is ugly, but it depends on whether you want a 2 door vs 4 door. A 2 DOOR CAR WILL ALWAYS HAVE LESS SPACE THAN A 4 DOOR CAR! Do not include a coupe in your choices when looking for a car if you NEED SPACE!
B) The tranny in the G35 is probably better than the tranny in any Acura and that sounds like an isolated issue with the G you drove because I have never had a problem with the AT in mine.
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I actually made this comparison, different cars or not. A "slightly used" G35c was not that much more than the TSX. Just about $4000? I forget.

As for the G35c, I figured that the reliability probably wouldn't be as good as the Acura, of course, but that wasn't my main concern. It had gobs of power, and was a monster of a car. Looked really cool. And the backseat was just about unusable. Not just the usual crawling over to get at the rear seat, just that there was no headroom. Not like 2" short, no, I had to hunch over when I was in the back seat! Who is supposed to be able to sit in this thing? 4 year olds?
My gf's dad has a 1990 Q45 with 300K and has never had any major issues, that this is fast as hell.


Originally Posted by vidgamer
As for looking like a 4 door, some people at work were swearing I had a 2-door. Heh. It's just so sporty looking it SEEMS like it should be a 2-door coupe!

I keep looking at pictures of the TSX and I keep seeing 4 doors....
Old 08-01-2006 | 06:54 PM
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And expect the price to be about $10k more.

$10k more than the TSX when comparably equipped?
Or $10k more than the outgoing G35?

Fully loaded G35's have always been about $10k more than the TSX.
The '07 pricing should only be a couple hundred, at most $1g, higher than the old G35.
Old 08-01-2006 | 06:56 PM
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I believe Infiniti's as a whole have been slightly more reliable than Acura's, according to JD survey's.
Infiniti typically scores just below Lexus.

Originally Posted by vidgamer
I actually made this comparison, different cars or not. A "slightly used" G35c was not that much more than the TSX. Just about $4000? I forget.

As for the G35c, I figured that the reliability probably wouldn't be as good as the Acura, of course, but that wasn't my main concern. It had gobs of power, and was a monster of a car. Looked really cool. And the backseat was just about unusable. Not just the usual crawling over to get at the rear seat, just that there was no headroom. Not like 2" short, no, I had to hunch over when I was in the back seat! Who is supposed to be able to sit in this thing? 4 year olds?

Anyway, performance-wise, it is in another league, but the interior is not inspiring, almost cheap feeling, and you pay a lot if you don't need the power and inconvenience. It was really too much power for me, if that makes sense.

With the TSX, you get a much more usable car for passengers and storage, and there's just enough power. I'm sure the MT makes a big difference.

As for looking like a 4 door, some people at work were swearing I had a 2-door. Heh. It's just so sporty looking it SEEMS like it should be a 2-door coupe!
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plus, chicks dig the car
If you want to pick up the chicks the G35C will accomplish this vs. the TSX or even a TL.
Old 08-01-2006 | 07:14 PM
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I believe Infiniti's as a whole have been slightly more reliable than Acura's, according to JD survey's.
Infiniti typically scores just below Lexus.


I don't know why someone in their right mind would be comparing the TSX to the G35c. They are two very different cars.

Get a G35c if
-You can afford it.
-You want a car that will get attention.
-You want a fast car.
-You want a sexy car.
-You want a car that handles well.
-You can afford the gas.
-You have no need to transport things or people.
-You want a car that will have a high resale value.
-You want a car that will put a smile on your face everytime you see it.
-You can afford it!~!!!!


Get a TSX if
-You want a reliable car.
-You want a car with pretty good features.
-You are going to carve up mountains so you want something that handles well.
-You want to spend 30K on an almost-lux car with a 4-cyl.
-You turned down an Accord V6 Ex because you wanted an 'Acura' badge

Ok so I was being slightly cynical with the last TSX comment, but you get my point. People stop comparing the TSX with the G35 because THE ONLY AREA the TSX is superior in would be the interior. I don't know why people make unfounded comments about the quality of the G35 or the lack of the space, you should know what features/characteristics you are shopping for, stay within your limits.
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I don't know why someone in their right mind would be comparing the TSX to the G35c. They are two very different cars.

Get a G35c if
-You can afford it.
AND
-You want a car that will get attention.
AND
-You want a fast car.
AND
-You want a sexy car.
AND
-You want a car that handles well.
AND
-You can afford the gas.
AND
-You have no need to transport things or people.
...
Modified.

If those apply to me, I would consider S2000 rather than G35c.

Moreover, it still puts smiles on me whenever I see my 2004 TSX, after almost 2 years.
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Originally Posted by BusyShifter
Modified.

If those apply to me, I would consider S2000 rather than G35c.

Moreover, it still puts smiles on me whenever I see my 2004 TSX, after almost 2 years.

The 'And' was implied, thanks for making it more clear to those who don't know

The S2000 & G35c are also different types of cars, it all depends on your wants/needs. I would take the G over the S any day though.
Old 08-01-2006 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TallyCL-S
I meant to put 'And' thanks for modifying

The S2000 & G35c are also different types of cars, it all depends on your wants/needs.
TSX and G35c are also different types of cars. Applying the same critiera you list for choosing G35c, I think I rather be driving S2000.

BTW, do you have auto or manual?
Old 08-01-2006 | 07:43 PM
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Here's what I think since I have both.

I drive a 6MT TSX and also cross-shopped a G35C however decided that the G was not worth $7k more despite the handling and power differences. What sold me on the TSX was the interior and price even if it is underpowered. My wife ended up getting a G35C AT which was a little disappointing but she drives in heavy traffic each day and did not want a manual.

Even with the G being an auto and completely stock, the TSX doesn't compare in straight-line power or handling despite the hondata reflash, a-spec suspension, comptech rear sway and BFG KDW tires, nor should it. I've driven my co-worker's 6MT and it pulls much harder than an AT. The shifting feel of the G35 6MT doesn't feel as engaging as the 6MT TSX but the throw is shorter and the clutch is much more stiff so you don't have to slip it as much during launch.

The TSX blows the G35 away in interior fit and finish, ride quality, cabin noise and overall refinement which I think is great for daily driving. My TSX also gets far superior gas mileage in mixed driving which is a concern with fuel prices these days.

So if you want power and great handling get the G, if you want a nice blend of everything get the TSX.


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