TSX or 325xi - Which has more room?
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TSX or 325xi - Which has more room?
Curiosuty from another thread led me to www.acura.com where I clicked on the TSX, then compared the interior space to the BMW 325xi. When I looked at the TSX, I thought it felt more spacious in the backseat and about the same in the front. Here is what the comparison showed.
Interior Dimensions:
......................................TSX.....325x i...Advantage
Headroom (Front).........37.8.....38.4........BMW
Headroom (Rear)..........37.3.....37.5........BMW
Legroom (Front)............42.4....41.4........Acura
Legroom (Rear).............34.2....34.4........BMW
Shoulder Room (Front)..55.4....54.4........Acura
Shoulder Room (Rear)...53.5....54.2........BMW
Anyone else surprised? 4 to 2 in terms of interior space? I know I was...
Interior Dimensions:
......................................TSX.....325x i...Advantage
Headroom (Front).........37.8.....38.4........BMW
Headroom (Rear)..........37.3.....37.5........BMW
Legroom (Front)............42.4....41.4........Acura
Legroom (Rear).............34.2....34.4........BMW
Shoulder Room (Front)..55.4....54.4........Acura
Shoulder Room (Rear)...53.5....54.2........BMW
Anyone else surprised? 4 to 2 in terms of interior space? I know I was...
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Originally posted by accsueprstar
tsx still bests the 325 by.3 in overall dimensions if you add them up![Smile](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
yes i have my calculator handy. finals tomorrow
tsx still bests the 325 by.3 in overall dimensions if you add them up
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yes i have my calculator handy. finals tomorrow
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Originally posted by fdl
Those standard specs for the bmw probably dont include a moonroof, which will reduce headroom significatly.
Those standard specs for the bmw probably dont include a moonroof, which will reduce headroom significatly.
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Re: TSX or 325xi - Which has more room?
Originally posted by Buff-Daddy
Curiosuty from another thread led me to www.acura.com where I clicked on the TSX, then compared the interior space to the BMW 325xi. When I looked at the TSX, I thought it felt more spacious in the backseat and about the same in the front. Here is what the comparison showed.
Interior Dimensions:
......................................TSX.....325x i...Advantage
Headroom (Front).........37.8.....38.4........BMW
Headroom (Rear)..........37.3.....37.5........BMW
Legroom (Front)............42.4....41.4........Acura
Legroom (Rear).............34.2....34.4........BMW
Shoulder Room (Front)..55.4....54.4........Acura
Shoulder Room (Rear)...53.5....54.2........BMW
Anyone else surprised? 4 to 2 in terms of interior space? I know I was...
Curiosuty from another thread led me to www.acura.com where I clicked on the TSX, then compared the interior space to the BMW 325xi. When I looked at the TSX, I thought it felt more spacious in the backseat and about the same in the front. Here is what the comparison showed.
Interior Dimensions:
......................................TSX.....325x i...Advantage
Headroom (Front).........37.8.....38.4........BMW
Headroom (Rear)..........37.3.....37.5........BMW
Legroom (Front)............42.4....41.4........Acura
Legroom (Rear).............34.2....34.4........BMW
Shoulder Room (Front)..55.4....54.4........Acura
Shoulder Room (Rear)...53.5....54.2........BMW
Anyone else surprised? 4 to 2 in terms of interior space? I know I was...
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Originally posted by larchmont
Just sit in them, B-D.![Big Grin](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
(You can learn a lot from that "Emperor's New Clothes" story.)
Just sit in them, B-D.
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(You can learn a lot from that "Emperor's New Clothes" story.)
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I used to drive a 2000 323i which is the same size as a 2003 325 and I would have to say the difference is size is negligable at best. They both have adequate room in the front and enough room for shorter people in the back. I actually feel a lot more comfortable in the BMW or the TSX than my wifes ML320.
I could not tell much of a difference between the BMW and the TSX and I am 6'3'' and 240lbs.
On the other hand in a suburban or a yukon my head hits the roof.
I wanted a porsche and couldnt fit in the carrera or the boxter. Then I came back to reality and got the TSX. The BMW just had to many problems once it hit around 50k miles.
I could not tell much of a difference between the BMW and the TSX and I am 6'3'' and 240lbs.
On the other hand in a suburban or a yukon my head hits the roof.
I wanted a porsche and couldnt fit in the carrera or the boxter. Then I came back to reality and got the TSX. The BMW just had to many problems once it hit around 50k miles.
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Originally posted by Buff-Daddy
I have, many times, that's where the "Is anyone else surprised, I am" came from...
I have, many times, that's where the "Is anyone else surprised, I am" came from...
Another lesson, I guess, in the limitations of stats. We wanna look at them, but we don't wanna take them as the last word.
When the stats conflict with the obvious, go with the obvious. Even morons know that.
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Re: Re: TSX or 325xi - Which has more room?
Originally posted by jumpper
TSX is bigger overall than 325 front and back. I dont know about your number, but I sat in both.
TSX is bigger overall than 325 front and back. I dont know about your number, but I sat in both.
Those are factory specs for both cars pulled from ACURA's own website, not something I made up. And according to those numbers, the BMW should be bigger in 4 of those 6 areas?
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Aren't those stats also just a function of the rear legroom when the seats are pushed forward? Thus if the BMW has a longer track, wouldn't it have bigger numbers, but the same "usable" space?
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Those are surprising numbers. My friend's 330i feels smaller in the back than my TSX (where I admittedly do not spend much time). I assume those would be the same dimensions as the 325xi??
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Good luck on your finals accsueprstar
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Good luck on your finals accsueprstar
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Re: Re: Re: TSX or 325xi - Which has more room?
Originally posted by Buff-Daddy
LOL, "My Number?"
Those are factory specs for both cars pulled from ACURA's own website, not something I made up. And according to those numbers, the BMW should be bigger in 4 of those 6 areas?
LOL, "My Number?"
Those are factory specs for both cars pulled from ACURA's own website, not something I made up. And according to those numbers, the BMW should be bigger in 4 of those 6 areas?
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Originally posted by larchmont
Thank you, B-D.
Another lesson, I guess, in the limitations of stats. We wanna look at them, but we don't wanna take them as the last word.
When the stats conflict with the obvious, go with the obvious. Even morons know that.
Thank you, B-D.
Another lesson, I guess, in the limitations of stats. We wanna look at them, but we don't wanna take them as the last word.
When the stats conflict with the obvious, go with the obvious. Even morons know that.
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Originally posted by Buff-Daddy
Unless those stats help the TSX, in which case they are rock-solid information collected by the worlds foremost experts and should be held in the highest regard, never to be questioned. You might be the worst one on this board larch... At least you make me laugh though.
Unless those stats help the TSX, in which case they are rock-solid information collected by the worlds foremost experts and should be held in the highest regard, never to be questioned. You might be the worst one on this board larch... At least you make me laugh though.
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But actually I plead innocent. I love stats and I use them a lot, but I also love the phenomenon of how they're sometimes misleading or even flat-out wrong -- I truly enjoy the irony of it, and I love seeing others of my basic ilk making asses of themselves with statistics. Hell, I've done it myself a few thousand times, but I've been cured for some time.
![Big Grin](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
For example, you don't see me going around quoting those stellar 0-60 figures that we've sometimes seen for the TSX -- even though some of them have been obtained first-hand by yours truly, in person. Why not? Because I see that everybody who knows what they're talking about keeps saying the TSX just isn't a very fast car off the line, and it's people who if anything should be biased toward the TSX, and I figure that's a far better index than any stats, including ones that I witness, so I stuff the stats.
About the interior room stats: As I've said before (a few times), this is the one part of car specs that has always struck me as not very reliable, be it about TSX or any other car. I've wondered if part of the problem might be what Lung just said, but I didn't worry about it too much anyway, because of what I said in that "Emperor's New Clothes" post: Just sit in the damn cars, and you'll see. Also, any number of readily-available sources give subjective impressions of the rear comfort, and, unlike the specs, I've always found those subjective impressions reliable and helpful.
You can criticize me for a lot of things -- for not knowing as much about cars as a lot of other people here, for having bad taste in cars, and for being a general moron.
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#17
Originally posted by larchmont
But you can't criticize me for mis-using stats to pump up the TSX.
But you can't criticize me for mis-using stats to pump up the TSX.
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Originally posted by larchmont
For example, you don't see me going around quoting those stellar 0-60 figures that we've sometimes seen for the TSX -- even though some of them have been obtained first-hand by yours truly, in person.
For example, you don't see me going around quoting those stellar 0-60 figures that we've sometimes seen for the TSX -- even though some of them have been obtained first-hand by yours truly, in person.
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Originally posted by domn
.....the best I could do on my stopwatch was a 9 sec pass with VSA on. How on earth could you have gone faster? or is it a big joke that I hav'nt picked up on yet?
.....the best I could do on my stopwatch was a 9 sec pass with VSA on. How on earth could you have gone faster? or is it a big joke that I hav'nt picked up on yet?
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About what 3 cars I'd pick for free, no strings attached:
(1) TSX 5AT CG w Nav
(2) TSX 6MT ABP w Nav
(3) totalled TSX off of e-Bay, to really get down to things
So you can't say I'm just biased toward the car that I have.
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#20
Originally posted by domn
Sorry to get off topic here but there's 2 things I'd like you explain when you have some time Larch. First of course is the differences between the TL and TL-S and secoondly and even more importantly is how you obtained a stellar 0-60 time from your Auto TSX. I mean the best I could do on my stopwatch was a 9 sec pass with VSA on. How on earth could you have gone faster? or is it a big joke that I hav'nt picked up on yet?
Sorry to get off topic here but there's 2 things I'd like you explain when you have some time Larch. First of course is the differences between the TL and TL-S and secoondly and even more importantly is how you obtained a stellar 0-60 time from your Auto TSX. I mean the best I could do on my stopwatch was a 9 sec pass with VSA on. How on earth could you have gone faster? or is it a big joke that I hav'nt picked up on yet?
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Originally posted by larchmont
About what 3 cars I'd pick for free, no strings attached:
(1) TSX 5AT CG w Nav
(2) TSX 6MT ABP w Nav
(3) totalled TSX off of e-Bay, to really get down to things
About what 3 cars I'd pick for free, no strings attached:
(1) TSX 5AT CG w Nav
(2) TSX 6MT ABP w Nav
(3) totalled TSX off of e-Bay, to really get down to things
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And I believe him too.
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