Buff-Daddy

Curiosuty from another thread led me to www.acura.com where I clicked on the TSX, then compared the interior space to the BMW 325xi. When I looked at the TSX, I thought it felt more spacious in the backseat and about the same in the front. Here is what the comparison showed.

Interior Dimensions:
......................................TSX.....325x i...Advantage
Headroom (Front).........37.8.....38.4........BMW
Headroom (Rear)..........37.3.....37.5........BMW
Legroom (Front)............42.4....41.4........Acura
Legroom (Rear).............34.2....34.4........BMW
Shoulder Room (Front)..55.4....54.4........Acura
Shoulder Room (Rear)...53.5....54.2........BMW

Anyone else surprised? 4 to 2 in terms of interior space? I know I was...

accsuperstar

tsx still bests the 325 by.3 in overall dimensions if you add them up

yes i have my calculator handy. finals tomorrow

fdl

Those standard specs for the bmw probably dont include a moonroof, which will reduce headroom significatly.

Buff-Daddy

I was just about to do that myself, thanks for saving me the time! Nice Pics too, I think that lip spoiler looks great and should replace that tacky factory spoiler. Nice looking car!

larchmont

Just sit in them, B-D.

(You can learn a lot from that "Emperor's New Clothes" story.)

Buff-Daddy

Those numbers were off of Acura's website, so I am sure they would have used the worst number available. After all, they did forget to list "Power Passenger Seat" as even an option (because they don't have it) and only listed Power "Drivers" Seat. Ahhh, the games they play...

jumpper

TSX is bigger overall than 325 front and back. I dont know about your number, but I sat in both.

Buff-Daddy

I have, many times, that's where the "Is anyone else surprised, I am" came from...

bheywow

I used to drive a 2000 323i which is the same size as a 2003 325 and I would have to say the difference is size is negligable at best. They both have adequate room in the front and enough room for shorter people in the back. I actually feel a lot more comfortable in the BMW or the TSX than my wifes ML320.

I could not tell much of a difference between the BMW and the TSX and I am 6'3'' and 240lbs.

On the other hand in a suburban or a yukon my head hits the roof.
I wanted a porsche and couldnt fit in the carrera or the boxter. Then I came back to reality and got the TSX. The BMW just had to many problems once it hit around 50k miles.

larchmont

Thank you, B-D.

Another lesson, I guess, in the limitations of stats. We wanna look at them, but we don't wanna take them as the last word.

When the stats conflict with the obvious, go with the obvious. Even morons know that.

Buff-Daddy

LOL, "My Number?"

Those are factory specs for both cars pulled from ACURA's own website, not something I made up. And according to those numbers, the BMW should be bigger in 4 of those 6 areas?

Lung Fu Mo Shi

Aren't those stats also just a function of the rear legroom when the seats are pushed forward? Thus if the BMW has a longer track, wouldn't it have bigger numbers, but the same "usable" space?

jcg878

Those are surprising numbers. My friend's 330i feels smaller in the back than my TSX (where I admittedly do not spend much time). I assume those would be the same dimensions as the 325xi??

"People can come up with statistics to prove anything, 14% of all people know that." - HJS




Good luck on your finals accsueprstar

jumpper

HA HA, I didnt mean that you made up your own number. I meant the number that you posted. To me, 325 is very similar in size with IS300 (I drove it for a year), which is very small for my taste. I felt alot more room in TSX.

Buff-Daddy

Unless those stats help the TSX, in which case they are rock-solid information collected by the worlds foremost experts and should be held in the highest regard, never to be questioned. You might be the worst one on this board larch... At least you make me laugh though.

larchmont

Thanks for the superlative, B-D, even though it's bad.

But actually I plead innocent. I love stats and I use them a lot, but I also love the phenomenon of how they're sometimes misleading or even flat-out wrong -- I truly enjoy the irony of it, and I love seeing others of my basic ilk making asses of themselves with statistics. Hell, I've done it myself a few thousand times, but I've been cured for some time.

For example, you don't see me going around quoting those stellar 0-60 figures that we've sometimes seen for the TSX -- even though some of them have been obtained first-hand by yours truly, in person. Why not? Because I see that everybody who knows what they're talking about keeps saying the TSX just isn't a very fast car off the line, and it's people who if anything should be biased toward the TSX, and I figure that's a far better index than any stats, including ones that I witness, so I stuff the stats.

About the interior room stats: As I've said before (a few times), this is the one part of car specs that has always struck me as not very reliable, be it about TSX or any other car. I've wondered if part of the problem might be what Lung just said, but I didn't worry about it too much anyway, because of what I said in that "Emperor's New Clothes" post: Just sit in the damn cars, and you'll see. Also, any number of readily-available sources give subjective impressions of the rear comfort, and, unlike the specs, I've always found those subjective impressions reliable and helpful.

You can criticize me for a lot of things -- for not knowing as much about cars as a lot of other people here, for having bad taste in cars, and for being a general moron. But you can't criticize me for mis-using stats to pump up the TSX.

Buff-Daddy

If only I had time to use the "search" feature... I'm just playin' with you larch, but you do have the TSX fever worse than anyone else on this board. I am beginning to wonder if you think ANY car on the planet is better than the TSX? If you got to choose 3 cars for free, no strings attached, what would they be?

dom

Sorry to get off topic here but there's 2 things I'd like you explain when you have some time Larch. First of course is the differences between the TL and TL-S and secoondly and even more importantly is how you obtained a stellar 0-60 time from your Auto TSX. I mean the best I could do on my stopwatch was a 9 sec pass with VSA on. How on earth could you have gone faster? or is it a big joke that I hav'nt picked up on yet?

larchmont

Well, another reason I don't talk about it is that I know it's not very believable. As I've said, I wonder if my particular TSX is some kind of mutant -- I mean, such great 0-60 times, NO rattles...... I dunno, I used to play the violin a little, and doing a 0-60 in an AT is kinda like playing a violin, except it's with your foot. Oh BTW I never tried it except when the tank was almost empty, and when I was on a diet.

About what 3 cars I'd pick for free, no strings attached:

(1) TSX 5AT CG w Nav
(2) TSX 6MT ABP w Nav
(3) totalled TSX off of e-Bay, to really get down to things

So you can't say I'm just biased toward the car that I have.

Buff-Daddy

Because his TSX is magic! Larch is a good guy, but he lives somewhere inbetween fantasy and reality when it comes to the TSX. Larch believes in God and God is a TSX...

dom

And I believe him too.

DEVO

In larch we trust.