Stupid VIN/Production question
05-03-2004, 02:10 PM
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Stupid VIN/Production question
Sorry for all the questions, my car is still 1.5-2 weeks out, and I'm getting impatient!
My question is, the last digits of my VIN are 32990, I assume this means mine is the 32,990th car produced. Am I incorrect in that assumption? I thought only ~15,000 were projected, and ~18,000 have been sold so far? Does this include international sales, and if so, shouldn't it be more?
Just curious, thanks for the help!
My question is, the last digits of my VIN are 32990, I assume this means mine is the 32,990th car produced. Am I incorrect in that assumption? I thought only ~15,000 were projected, and ~18,000 have been sold so far? Does this include international sales, and if so, shouldn't it be more?
Just curious, thanks for the help!
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05-03-2004, 05:37 PM
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The 17 digit VIN (for all vehicles since 1981)
1st digit - Country in which the vehicle was manufactured. Example: (1 or 4) U.S., (2) Canada, (3) Mexico, (6) Australia, (9) Brazil, (J) Japan, (K) Korea, (L) Taiwan, (S) England, (V) France, (W) Germany, (Y) Sweden, (Z) Italy.
2nd digit - Manufacturer. Code partially dependant on digit 1. Example; (1) Chevrolet, (2 or 5) Pontiac, (3) Oldsmobile, (4) Buick, (6) Cadillac, (7) GM Canada, (8) Saturn or Isuzu, (9) Acura, (A) AMC, Audi, Jaguar or Maserati, (B) Dodge or BMW, (C) AMC or Chrysler, (D) Mercedes-Benz, (F) Ford, (G) GM or Suzuki, (H) Honda, (J) Jeep, (L) Lincoln or Daewoo, (M) Mercury, (N) Nissan, (P) Plymouth, (T) Toyota, (V) VW or Volvo.
3rd digit - Vehicle type or manufacturing division - code dependant on digits 1 and/or 2.
4th to 8th digits - Features; such as body style, engine code, series, trim, etc. - code dependant on digits 1, 2, 3 and/or 10.
9th digit - Check digit to identify VIN accuracy.
10th digit - Model year. (B) 1981, (C) 1982, (D) 1983, (E) 1984, (F) 1985, (G) 1986, (H) 1987, (J) 1988, (K) 1989, (L) 1990, (M) 1991, (N) 1992, (P) 1993, (R) 1994, (S) 1995, (T) 1996, (V) 1997, (W) 1998, (X) 1999, (Y) 2000, (1) 2001, (2) 2002, (3) 2003, (4) 2004, (5) 2005, (6) 2006, (7) 2007, (8) 2008, (9) 2009, (A) 2010, (B) 2011, (C) 2012, etc.
11th digit - Assembly plant - code dependant on digits 1, 2, 3 and/or 10; Examples (list is not complete): (A) Lakewood, GA or Sindelfingen, Germany. (B) Lansing, MI, Baltimore, MD, Oakville, ON or Pupyong, Korea. (C) Lansing, MI. (D) Doraville, GA. (E) Linden, NJ, Pontiac, MI or Mishawaka, IN. (F) Fairfax, KS or Flint, MI. (G) Framingham, MA. (H) Flint, MI or Alliston, ON. (J) Janesville, WI or Fenton, MO. (K) Leeds, MO, Kenosha, WI, or Kosai, Japan. (L) Van Nuys, CA. (M) Lansing, MI or Puebla, Mexico (N) Norwood, OH. (R) Arlington, TX or Windsor, ON. (S) St. Louis, MO, Ramos Arizpe, Mexico or Warren, MI. (T) Tarrytown, NY, Edison, NJ or Shreveport, LA. (U) Hamtramck, MI. (V) Pontiac, MI. (W) Willow Run, MI or Iwata, Japan. (X) Fairfax, KS. (Y) Wilmington, DE. (Z) Fremont, CA, Spring Hill, TN, Fort Wayne, IN or Hazelwood, MO. (0) Pontiac, MI. (1) Wentzville, MO or Oshawa, ON. (2) Moraine, OH or St. Therese, QC. (3) Detroit, MI, Kawasaki, Japan or St. Eustache, QC. (4) Orion, MI or Scarborough, ON. (5) Bowling Green, KY or London, ON. (6) Oklahoma City, OK or Ingersoll, ON. (7) Lordstown, OH, Wixom, MI or Fujisawa, Japan. (8) Shreveport, LA (9) Detroit, MI, Tillsonburg, ON or Oshawa, ON.
12th to 17th digits - Sequential production number
1st digit - Country in which the vehicle was manufactured. Example: (1 or 4) U.S., (2) Canada, (3) Mexico, (6) Australia, (9) Brazil, (J) Japan, (K) Korea, (L) Taiwan, (S) England, (V) France, (W) Germany, (Y) Sweden, (Z) Italy.
2nd digit - Manufacturer. Code partially dependant on digit 1. Example; (1) Chevrolet, (2 or 5) Pontiac, (3) Oldsmobile, (4) Buick, (6) Cadillac, (7) GM Canada, (8) Saturn or Isuzu, (9) Acura, (A) AMC, Audi, Jaguar or Maserati, (B) Dodge or BMW, (C) AMC or Chrysler, (D) Mercedes-Benz, (F) Ford, (G) GM or Suzuki, (H) Honda, (J) Jeep, (L) Lincoln or Daewoo, (M) Mercury, (N) Nissan, (P) Plymouth, (T) Toyota, (V) VW or Volvo.
3rd digit - Vehicle type or manufacturing division - code dependant on digits 1 and/or 2.
4th to 8th digits - Features; such as body style, engine code, series, trim, etc. - code dependant on digits 1, 2, 3 and/or 10.
9th digit - Check digit to identify VIN accuracy.
10th digit - Model year. (B) 1981, (C) 1982, (D) 1983, (E) 1984, (F) 1985, (G) 1986, (H) 1987, (J) 1988, (K) 1989, (L) 1990, (M) 1991, (N) 1992, (P) 1993, (R) 1994, (S) 1995, (T) 1996, (V) 1997, (W) 1998, (X) 1999, (Y) 2000, (1) 2001, (2) 2002, (3) 2003, (4) 2004, (5) 2005, (6) 2006, (7) 2007, (8) 2008, (9) 2009, (A) 2010, (B) 2011, (C) 2012, etc.
11th digit - Assembly plant - code dependant on digits 1, 2, 3 and/or 10; Examples (list is not complete): (A) Lakewood, GA or Sindelfingen, Germany. (B) Lansing, MI, Baltimore, MD, Oakville, ON or Pupyong, Korea. (C) Lansing, MI. (D) Doraville, GA. (E) Linden, NJ, Pontiac, MI or Mishawaka, IN. (F) Fairfax, KS or Flint, MI. (G) Framingham, MA. (H) Flint, MI or Alliston, ON. (J) Janesville, WI or Fenton, MO. (K) Leeds, MO, Kenosha, WI, or Kosai, Japan. (L) Van Nuys, CA. (M) Lansing, MI or Puebla, Mexico (N) Norwood, OH. (R) Arlington, TX or Windsor, ON. (S) St. Louis, MO, Ramos Arizpe, Mexico or Warren, MI. (T) Tarrytown, NY, Edison, NJ or Shreveport, LA. (U) Hamtramck, MI. (V) Pontiac, MI. (W) Willow Run, MI or Iwata, Japan. (X) Fairfax, KS. (Y) Wilmington, DE. (Z) Fremont, CA, Spring Hill, TN, Fort Wayne, IN or Hazelwood, MO. (0) Pontiac, MI. (1) Wentzville, MO or Oshawa, ON. (2) Moraine, OH or St. Therese, QC. (3) Detroit, MI, Kawasaki, Japan or St. Eustache, QC. (4) Orion, MI or Scarborough, ON. (5) Bowling Green, KY or London, ON. (6) Oklahoma City, OK or Ingersoll, ON. (7) Lordstown, OH, Wixom, MI or Fujisawa, Japan. (8) Shreveport, LA (9) Detroit, MI, Tillsonburg, ON or Oshawa, ON.
12th to 17th digits - Sequential production number
05-03-2004, 06:24 PM
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For the TSX, the 8th digit determines the navigation option. 8 is no navi; 9 is navi.
This means that for US TSX's, the first 8 digits must be one of:
JH4CL958
JH4CL959
JH4CL968
JH4CL969
Canadian owners, can you confirm that your VINs don't start with these 8 digits? If they do, I don't know how you'd distinguish the 10000th American TSX from the 10000th Canadian TSX.
This means that for US TSX's, the first 8 digits must be one of:
JH4CL958
JH4CL959
JH4CL968
JH4CL969
Canadian owners, can you confirm that your VINs don't start with these 8 digits? If they do, I don't know how you'd distinguish the 10000th American TSX from the 10000th Canadian TSX.
05-03-2004, 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by iamhomin
3..2..9..9..0???
ALREADY?? Go TSX!
3..2..9..9..0???
ALREADY?? Go TSX!
05-03-2004, 08:37 PM
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And to think the TSX was supposed to be a rare car on the road, it actually is, but would've more rare to stay at 15K.
But hey, Acura wins though of course, it's good to see the TSX selling well, I'm beginning to see more TSX's now, but the rarest TSX I have yet to see a lot of is Arctic blue on the road. I mean the first time I test drove the TSX was in Arctic blue, but I hardly see it, nor Meteor silver just once have I seen meteor silver on the road. Some mom with her small kid was driving it.
Before the end of 2004, you'll probably see the vin #'s in the 40,000 range.
But hey, Acura wins though of course, it's good to see the TSX selling well, I'm beginning to see more TSX's now, but the rarest TSX I have yet to see a lot of is Arctic blue on the road. I mean the first time I test drove the TSX was in Arctic blue, but I hardly see it, nor Meteor silver just once have I seen meteor silver on the road. Some mom with her small kid was driving it.
Before the end of 2004, you'll probably see the vin #'s in the 40,000 range.
05-06-2004, 10:30 AM
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Thanks tonyTSX, I've been looking for a VIN breakdown like that for a while.
Mine is in the 24k range. Picked it up middle of April but the car was already sitting at another dealership (don't know how long)
I too was convinced that the 15k/year was a carved in stone number but I looks that demand still dictates production.
Does anyone know how many Preludes (roughly) were sold per year ?
Mine is in the 24k range. Picked it up middle of April but the car was already sitting at another dealership (don't know how long)
I too was convinced that the 15k/year was a carved in stone number but I looks that demand still dictates production.
Does anyone know how many Preludes (roughly) were sold per year ?
05-06-2004, 12:02 PM
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I kinda figured that they would build all they could sell....but I didn't think we'd be at double the projected ammount! I thought it might be closer to 20-22k/yr. Guess we picked a sweet ride.
05-06-2004, 12:48 PM
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So I read somewhere here that 2 sets of serial numbers are kept on the NA TSX. One for Canada and one for the US. If this is true what part of the vin (prior to the sequential serial numbers) constitutes enough of a difference to start a new count?
05-06-2004, 02:10 PM
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The last numbers of the VIN will reset to zero when the MY changes to 05 probably in Sept. The factory itself will change over to MY05 probably in late July. The order of 04 will probably be cut off with the July orders. Given the current trend I'd guess the finally tally for the US TSX production to be in the 40K range.
08-12-2004, 11:38 AM
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good luck with it when it arrives...i have been waiting two weeks so far and all i know is that it should be in by the last week of august...man i can't wait...i dont know how my friend waited 5 months for his 330i...the wait is killin me...
oh well i can find other ways to pass the time till then....
oh well i can find other ways to pass the time till then....
08-16-2004, 09:39 AM
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I think you guys are forgetting that MY04 TSXs started selling 4/03. Its now 8/04...thats 16 selling months 42,000 units/16 months. Those numbers are still alot higher than their projected goal of 15K units for a 8 month period 4/03-12/03. Note* 15K units was a goal, not a production limit.
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
And to think the TSX was supposed to be a rare car on the road, it actually is, but would've more rare to stay at 15K.
But hey, Acura wins though of course, it's good to see the TSX selling well, I'm beginning to see more TSX's now, but the rarest TSX I have yet to see a lot of is Arctic blue on the road. I mean the first time I test drove the TSX was in Arctic blue, but I hardly see it, nor Meteor silver just once have I seen meteor silver on the road. Some mom with her small kid was driving it.
Before the end of 2004, you'll probably see the vin #'s in the 40,000 range.
But hey, Acura wins though of course, it's good to see the TSX selling well, I'm beginning to see more TSX's now, but the rarest TSX I have yet to see a lot of is Arctic blue on the road. I mean the first time I test drove the TSX was in Arctic blue, but I hardly see it, nor Meteor silver just once have I seen meteor silver on the road. Some mom with her small kid was driving it.
Before the end of 2004, you'll probably see the vin #'s in the 40,000 range.
