Sport shift caused me to get in an accident today.
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Sport shift caused me to get in an accident today.
I was in a parking lot and saw a man pull into a tight spot. I started to drive past when he put it in reverse to back up and pull in straighter. I saw what was happening, but since I was in sport shift mode it took me that extra few moments, in that extra time he backed into my right front end. Funny part was I hadnt used sport shift in about a week. This blows.
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I was stopped, he backed into me, i needed to back up to avoid the accident, go forward and the speed I am sure would have caused worse damage. Horn, didnt get to in time.
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I was stopped, he backed into me, i needed to back up to avoid the accident, go forward and the speed I am sure would have caused worse damage. Horn, didnt get to in time.
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hope it wont cost you that much to fix
I drive the Sport shift too, but whenever I go into a parking lot, or when i know that i'm going to park the car soon, i put into normal D mode and concentrate on the environment
I drive the Sport shift too, but whenever I go into a parking lot, or when i know that i'm going to park the car soon, i put into normal D mode and concentrate on the environment
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Originally Posted by Trigger
hope it wont cost you that much to fix
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The time it takes to move the SS into "R" can't be that much different that moving from say 1st to "R" in a MT.
But ya, the horn is always the first place to go with car's approaching. And the TSX's horn is ever so sensitive so it would have been easy to avoid.
But ya, the horn is always the first place to go with car's approaching. And the TSX's horn is ever so sensitive so it would have been easy to avoid.
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and sorry to say but i used to drive Acura 3.2 TL, and i used that semi auto thing too.. but everything is as quick as putting it on automatic - responsiveness, reaction, etc.. so i don't get how it took the extra few moments..
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Originally Posted by domn
The time it takes to move the SS into "R" can't be that much different that moving from say 1st to "R" in a MT.
it's a sucky situation either way. shouldn't be zooming around in a parking lot anyway.
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i was just kidding. but i do think it would take longer to move from SS to reverse. but then again, going into reverse in a manual is annoying b/c sometimes you have to go into gear then out then to reverse.
it's a sucky situation either way. shouldn't be zooming around in a parking lot anyway.
it's a sucky situation either way. shouldn't be zooming around in a parking lot anyway.
I think I understand. If you're not familiar with SS then your first instinct with an AT is to move the shift lever forward (thinking you're going from D to N then to R. Well, with SS engaged all you do is up-shift. Not sure how you could miss the horn though, mine is very sensitive.
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Sorry to hear that.
That exact thing happened to me, but in an '85 Camry (my first car). The old-school bumpers worked well...the Caravan that hit me had more scratches than that old car!
However, I did try to go for reverse, but I tried too late (ie. I trusted the other driver too much, thinking she'd stop). The shift is the button style auto shifter, so I ended up in Neutral. I was able to hit the horn, but that was about 1 second before she hit me, and she didn't react in time.
Don't worry....if you didn't have time to hit the horn, you'd definitely not have time to flick the shifter through the gates to R. It's his/her fault anyway, so you should be okay. I guess that's one reason the button-type shifters are better, as you'd have slightly better chances in actually getting into R. It's too bad Acura didn't put a Mercedes kind of shift in there. Their shifter setup (with boot and such) looks nice, uses a button, and still has SportsShift. (I think part of the reason the car manufacturers do the gated shifter is to make the thing look better since gated shifters *are* more difficult to use, and don't seem to offer many advantages)
That exact thing happened to me, but in an '85 Camry (my first car). The old-school bumpers worked well...the Caravan that hit me had more scratches than that old car!
However, I did try to go for reverse, but I tried too late (ie. I trusted the other driver too much, thinking she'd stop). The shift is the button style auto shifter, so I ended up in Neutral. I was able to hit the horn, but that was about 1 second before she hit me, and she didn't react in time.
Don't worry....if you didn't have time to hit the horn, you'd definitely not have time to flick the shifter through the gates to R. It's his/her fault anyway, so you should be okay. I guess that's one reason the button-type shifters are better, as you'd have slightly better chances in actually getting into R. It's too bad Acura didn't put a Mercedes kind of shift in there. Their shifter setup (with boot and such) looks nice, uses a button, and still has SportsShift. (I think part of the reason the car manufacturers do the gated shifter is to make the thing look better since gated shifters *are* more difficult to use, and don't seem to offer many advantages)
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Originally Posted by jlukja
Not sure how you could miss the horn though, mine is very sensitive.
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Originally Posted by MikeMa
I think part of the reason the car manufacturers do the gated shifter is to make the thing look better since gated shifters *are* more difficult to use, and don't seem to offer many advantages
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Originally Posted by jcg878
IMO the gated shifter is ideal, since you don't have to look at it to tell what gear you're in - you can feel your way. In a way though, it discourages rapid shifting into reverse... normally a good thing, but not in this situation
I beg to disagree. I think it's there primarily for "style", since MB was making this in the 1960s (do they still do it in 2004?). If it really made much of a difference, they'd design a gate of some sort on the BMW SMG gearboxes, at least I think they would. Anyway, I find it's easier to just shift for myself. Clutch-shift-clutch/gas. It's all pretty much permanently etched into my neural pathways and happens automatic now, anyway.
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Originally Posted by bob shiftright
.....If it really made much of a difference, they'd design a gate of some sort on the BMW SMG gearboxes, at least I think they would.....
jcg is right: the function of the "standard" H-pattern is to tell you what gear you're in. That's why it's the same on most all cars (except some Lamborghinis).
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