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Old 12-05-2005, 06:34 PM
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Lease. I get the urge to change cars often enough that leasing makes sense for me. This one will stay with me for a while, but then again, who knows.
Me too. So being the lease expert that you are, would you recommend doing this within car families (i.e. Acuras w/Hondas and Acuras) or would it be worth it to do it outside (Infiniti, etc.).

If you don't mind me asking, how much did you have to spend out of pocket? I'm just trying to figure out how much it would cost me to do something like this (and would it be more convenient to do now vs. 1 year from now).
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Originally Posted by CobaltForge
Me too. So being the lease expert that you are, would you recommend doing this within car families (i.e. Acuras w/Hondas and Acuras) or would it be worth it to do it outside (Infiniti, etc.).

If you don't mind me asking, how much did you have to spend out of pocket? I'm just trying to figure out how much it would cost me to do something like this (and would it be more convenient to do now vs. 1 year from now).
Within car families often makes the transition easier, but it's not a whole lot harder to do it between brands. Of course, you have to make sure that you specify that you want them to buy out the lease as opposed to paying off your lease payments.

As for out of pocket, this time I just paid tax, tags, first payment, and fees. In Cali, you get the advantage of paying tax only on usage and it's rolled into the monthly payment as opposed to being a lump sum up front. You should be able to get away with a drive-off of just the tags, fees, and first payment.

Oh, and I'm hardly an expert. I've just done a whole lot of leases lately (all them for my family and at least a few for friends).
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Within car families often makes the transition easier, but it's not a whole lot harder to do it between brands. Of course, you have to make sure that you specify that you want them to buy out the lease as opposed to paying off your lease payments.

As for out of pocket, this time I just paid tax, tags, first payment, and fees. In Cali, you get the advantage of paying tax only on usage and it's rolled into the monthly payment as opposed to being a lump sum up front. You should be able to get away with a drive-off of just the tags, fees, and first payment.

Oh, and I'm hardly an expert. I've just done a whole lot of leases lately (all them for my family and at least a few for friends).
Thanks for your advice! The fact that you've done so many leases makes you an expert in my book.

So one more question if you don't mind. You mentioned above that you want to specify that they do a buyout vs. paying off your payments. So with option #1 (buyout), they would basically pay off what's remaining in the car (lease + residual?) and then the dealership would hope to make some + more in the resale right? With option #2 (lease payoff), they would pay off your current lease, but would add the total cost to the monthly payments on the new car.

I've also heard that in California, there is a way to end your lease with a very small penalty, and that the penalty is normally less if you do it in your 2nd year (less depreciation) vs. your 1st year. Have you ever heard anything about this?
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Originally Posted by CobaltForge
Thanks for your advice! The fact that you've done so many leases makes you an expert in my book.

So one more question if you don't mind. You mentioned above that you want to specify that they do a buyout vs. paying off your payments. So with option #1 (buyout), they would basically pay off what's remaining in the car (lease + residual?) and then the dealership would hope to make some + more in the resale right? With option #2 (lease payoff), they would pay off your current lease, but would add the total cost to the monthly payments on the new car.
Yup. That is correct. When you lease a car from American Honda, they allow you to buyout the lease at any point and so on your statement each month, they provide you with an amount to pay to buy out the entirety of the lease and own the car outright. This value is the value to want to use when negotiating a trade-in under Option #1.

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I've also heard that in California, there is a way to end your lease with a very small penalty, and that the penalty is normally less if you do it in your 2nd year (less depreciation) vs. your 1st year. Have you ever heard anything about this?
Unfotunately, I have not heard anything about this. Might be something to ask American Honda Finance about.
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Here are a few pics that I shot just now. The car is incredibly dirty right now because I just drove it after the snow from last night. Good thing I can probably convince the dealer to give it a rinse tomorrow when I pick up the trunk tray.

Better pics will come after the weather clears and spring rolls around. I'll be putting the TL wheels on at that time so those pics should prove most interesting.

In the meantime, enjoy!



















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The wheels look terrible on their own, but look decent in the greater context of the car.
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Thanks CG for the great information you provided. Heck, I think I may be paying a visit to my local dealership soon!
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Originally Posted by Jason
The wheels look terrible on their own, but look decent in the greater context of the car.
No, they look terrible either way.
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Driver 1? Is that programmable? Can you have it say "Welcome You Handsome Devil"?
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Driver 1? Is that programmable? Can you have it say "Welcome You Handsome Devil"?
I checked into it and it's not programmable. Maybe there is some sort of hack to change it but nothing in the owner's manual. There are other features that ARE programmable though, like the MID, lighting options, door locks, etc.
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Originally Posted by Jason
I checked into it and it's not programmable. Maybe there is some sort of hack to change it but nothing in the owner's manual. There are other features that ARE programmable though, like the MID, lighting options, door locks, etc.
Can you give us more information on those that are programmable? and is it customizable according to the key that you use? (i.e. personalized for each driver/key)
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Originally Posted by supraken
Can you give us more information on those that are programmable? and is it customizable according to the key that you use? (i.e. personalized for each driver/key)
It is programmable according to the key fob for either driver.

You can program things such as when you hit the unlock button, it can open either just the drivers door followed by all the doors on the second press or opening all the doors on the first press.

There are a whole slew of things that can be modified, but nothing related to major functionality, most just things related to the MID display and such.
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Originally Posted by supraken
Can you give us more information on those that are programmable? and is it customizable according to the key that you use? (i.e. personalized for each driver/key)
It is programmable by key fob and includes options like what you want the default view on the MID to be, how long the lights stay on, all doors unlocking with one push of the unlock button, interior lighting times, whether you want the car to beep when you lock it. Stuff like that. Nothing major but cool to have control over it.
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You think we were thinking the same thing?
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Wow, the 06 has all kinds of little hidden goodies.
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Very nice...the interior looks even better!
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Looks nice, Congrats on teh purchase!
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Originally Posted by Jason
It is programmable by key fob and includes options like what you want the default view on the MID to be, how long the lights stay on, all doors unlocking with one push of the unlock button, interior lighting times, whether you want the car to beep when you lock it. Stuff like that. Nothing major but cool to have control over it.
I know by getting my remote starter that it eliminates the seat memory from the key, (I would have to push the button on the door) but I believe that the key fob would still be able to do all of the programming that you talk about above.

Does anyone have any experience with this?

Thanks

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Originally Posted by excited
I know by getting my remote starter that it eliminates the seat memory from the key, (I would have to push the button on the door) but I believe that the key fob would still be able to do all of the programming that you talk about above.

Does anyone have any experience with this?

Thanks

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As far as I've read from the manual, it's all (memory seat, MID) tied to you unlocking with the keyfob. If you use the key itself to unlock (or you unlink your keyfob), then it uses defaults.

From experience, after unlocking the doors with the keyfob, the seats move to the stored position once you open the door.. but not until. And the MID still only displays "WELCOME" when you open the door. It's not until you start the car that it displays "WELCOME DRIVER n". It's a nice touch... but I want it to say my name!!
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Originally Posted by Jason
It is programmable by key fob and includes options like what you want the default view on the MID to be, how long the lights stay on, all doors unlocking with one push of the unlock button, interior lighting times, whether you want the car to beep when you lock it. Stuff like that. Nothing major but cool to have control over it.
So, is it user programmable? or need the dealer to program it? did the 06 have 1 touch open/close all windows and sunroof now?
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So, is it user programmable? or need the dealer to program it? did the 06 have 1 touch open/close all windows and sunroof now?
User programmable. Just hold the "i" button on the steering wheel for 3 secs. One-touch on driver side only.
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Originally Posted by jlukja
Driver 1? Is that programmable? Can you have it say "Welcome You Handsome Devil"?
No!!! The car won't lie.
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No!!! The car won't lie.




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Originally Posted by swirlie
As far as I've read from the manual, it's all (memory seat, MID) tied to you unlocking with the keyfob. If you use the key itself to unlock (or you unlink your keyfob), then it uses defaults.

From experience, after unlocking the doors with the keyfob, the seats move to the stored position once you open the door.. but not until. And the MID still only displays "WELCOME" when you open the door. It's not until you start the car that it displays "WELCOME DRIVER n". It's a nice touch... but I want it to say my name!!
I'm getting concerned that despite the fact that the installers are excellent installers, that by having the remote starter I will lose a lot of features. I am fearful of messing with the electronics of my new car.

I leaning towards not getting the remote starter despite the fact that it would great to have.



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congratz man!!.... should change your name!
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is the silver volume nob a standard?
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is the silver volume nob a standard?
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Looks like you've had snow as of late...how do the "aero" wipers handle snow? Any difference in performance? It's my guess that we'll be seeing these across the Acura line in the near future...
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Looks like you've had snow as of late...how do the "aero" wipers handle snow? Any difference in performance? It's my guess that we'll be seeing these across the Acura line in the near future...
They handle snow just like any other wiper. I do like them as a whole though. They seem to actually clear away a slightly larger area than the old wipers did.
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They handle snow just like any other wiper. I do like them as a whole though. They seem to actually clear away a slightly larger area than the old wipers did.
Yeah, they do a nice job.
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That hazard button is now a rectangle button.....like the JDM Euro-R, I think
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looks almost the same except for the hazard button and those silver knobs....

but the guages are so much nicer!!
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05's had silver knobs too. The nav model I looked at had them. I like the 05 gauges better...the MID is sweet tho.
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Grats on the new car... I was going to get the NBP/EB but the dealer sold it from under me. They had to get the CGP/EB from a dealership 150 miles away!
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Sexy pics man,...car looks good. I wish my 05 had those neat programmable things.
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Congrats on the new ride CG. Glad you stayed in the TSX family


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