Question about SS mode
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Question about SS mode
I have a 07 NBP with Navi. I usually dont use the SS but sometimes i want to have fun with the car but i dont really know how to shift, can anyone summarize how to use the SS? How to downshift etc? I tried searching, but none gave a satisfactory answer. sorry if this is a dumb question, but i really want to know. Thanks guys.
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Originally Posted by Raehon
I have a 07 NBP with Navi. I usually dont use the SS but sometimes i want to have fun with the car but i dont really know how to shift, can anyone summarize how to use the SS? How to downshift etc? I tried searching, but none gave a satisfactory answer. sorry if this is a dumb question, but i really want to know. Thanks guys.
BTW been driving the car for couple months, and it is great
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i understand practice makes perfect, and i do switch to SS sometimes to try. Is there anything i need to look out for when downshifting or slowing down, or cornering?
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Downshift when you feel like the car is not peppy enough. If you're just slowing down to stop, like at a light, don't downshift, let the car do it -- a manual driver would just slow down in gear and then drop it to neutral.*
Generally speaking, gear selection is entirely up to how it feels and what you want the car to behave like. Looking for a more sedate ride? Stay higher up. Want more excitement? Lower.
One thing you can try to do is figure out when the automatic shifts normally... see if you can see where the car does it and use that as a starting point for what it should feel like.
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* Manual driver who have to pay for their clutch themselves, that is, but this is a topic for another day.
Generally speaking, gear selection is entirely up to how it feels and what you want the car to behave like. Looking for a more sedate ride? Stay higher up. Want more excitement? Lower.
One thing you can try to do is figure out when the automatic shifts normally... see if you can see where the car does it and use that as a starting point for what it should feel like.
--W
* Manual driver who have to pay for their clutch themselves, that is, but this is a topic for another day.
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Originally Posted by TacoBellSauce
sry for the temp thread hijack but does anyone know if its bad to throw the car in neutral then back into gear without comin to a full stop
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Using the SS mode is much different that a normal manual in the fact that you don't shift up for 1st, down for 2nd, etc. In SS mode you bump it up every time to shift up. You bump it down when you down shift. It took me a little getting used to.
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Why the hell would you do that in an AT? The transmission is set up to basically allow this already as part of its basic functionality. Do no ever take you car and drop it into neutral while still in motion in an AT.
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I was taught to do that only when the cars goes out of control. you should try putting it into neutral to cut the power and stablize the car. Other than that, i dont see why we have to do that. Maybe when the car is stopped at a light, i know some people like putting it in neutral when waiting for the light to change.
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Originally Posted by Raehon
i understand practice makes perfect, and i do switch to SS sometimes to try. Is there anything i need to look out for when downshifting or slowing down, or cornering?
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Originally Posted by Raehon
I see, and what gear do i stay at if i want to maintain an average speed like 60kph?
However, 60kph is about 40mph here. Generally speaking the "proper" gear on the TSX is 4th which provides the best economy. The engine and gearing will tolerate anywhere from 2nd through 5th -- but each gear will give you different ride characteristics. It might even tolerate 1st but my car is still in the break-in and I'm not going to find out for you, tee hee.
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Originally Posted by Raehon
I was taught to do that only when the cars goes out of control. you should try putting it into neutral to cut the power and stablize the car.
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Why the hell would you do that in an AT? The transmission is set up to basically allow this already as part of its basic functionality. Do no ever take you car and drop it into neutral while still in motion in an AT.
Yicks.. I've been doing that a lot. I read in another thread about how to save gas, and it said to do that... I guess I won't be doing that anymore
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for me, i'm mostly in ss when i'm entering a highway or passing on a lowly back road. it takes some getting used to, but you'll get the hang of it by watching the tach at first, and then you'll be able to shift seamlessly by simply the sound/feeling the engine gives off
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Originally Posted by taz98spin
Yicks.. I've been doing that a lot. I read in another thread about how to save gas, and it said to do that... I guess I won't be doing that anymore ![ugh](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/ugh.gif)
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
That works if you drive a manual because you have the clutch to slip when you disengage and re-engage the drivetrain. In an automatic, dropping the car into neutral and then slipping it back into gear is a surefire way to fuck up your transmission.
Thanks for letting me know, I won't ever do that again..!!
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Originally Posted by taz98spin
Yicks.. I've been doing that a lot. I read in another thread about how to save gas, and it said to do that... I guess I won't be doing that anymore ![ugh](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/ugh.gif)
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Originally Posted by godfather2
for me, i'm mostly in ss when i'm entering a highway or passing on a lowly back road. it takes some getting used to, but you'll get the hang of it by watching the tach at first, and then you'll be able to shift seamlessly by simply the sound/feeling the engine gives off
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
That works if you drive a manual because you have the clutch to slip when you disengage and re-engage the drivetrain. In an automatic, dropping the car into neutral and then slipping it back into gear is a surefire way to fuck up your transmission.
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#24
Originally Posted by wenge
On the other hand, putting it in neutral while waiting at a drive-up ATM or something is perfectly fine.
#25
Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
That works if you drive a manual because you have the clutch to slip when you disengage and re-engage the drivetrain. In an automatic, dropping the car into neutral and then slipping it back into gear is a surefire way to fuck up your transmission.
good looks on that man
i would drop it into neutral since it would help me slow my speed down faster
now i know better
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Originally Posted by TacoBellSauce
good looks on that man
i would drop it into neutral since it would help me slow my speed down faster
now i know better
i would drop it into neutral since it would help me slow my speed down faster
now i know better
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Originally Posted by PWPTSX
When i go to a drive-thru, i just pop it into neutral and pull up the handbrake. or else the car seems to be struggling against the transmiision or something.....i donno....lol
As to why not Park - because Park is through Reverse.
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I've shifted into neutral while the car was moving all my life, never had a problem. Almost all those instances were when I was descending a hill and didn't want the engine to do the braking for me (even in 5th gear). In those instances I usually shift into neutral to coast down a hill. At the end of the hill, when the car returns naturally to approx 60-65 mph I rev the engine (which is idling at 600rpm while in neutral) to around 2000rpm and then put it back in D. If I need to shift back to D at some higher speed I just rev the engine to the appropriate rpm for that speed (called "rev-matching").
Its not the same a neutral-drop or a neutral-slam. A neutral drop is when, at a standstill, you gun the engine to a high rpm in neutral and then drop it into gear to get the tires spinning. That is very bad for your transmission.
If you want to experiment with SS just watch what the automatic transmission does when in D. (i.e. watch for when, at what rpm, the tranny upshifts and downshifts) and initially, mimic that. Once you get the hang of it then experiment with how the car feels if you let it rev up higher or downshift sooner. In general, for economy driving, you want to upshift before 3000rpm and downshift before 1000 rpm. For performance driving the higher the rpm the more horsepower and the more engine-braking ability. Have fun.
Its not the same a neutral-drop or a neutral-slam. A neutral drop is when, at a standstill, you gun the engine to a high rpm in neutral and then drop it into gear to get the tires spinning. That is very bad for your transmission.
If you want to experiment with SS just watch what the automatic transmission does when in D. (i.e. watch for when, at what rpm, the tranny upshifts and downshifts) and initially, mimic that. Once you get the hang of it then experiment with how the car feels if you let it rev up higher or downshift sooner. In general, for economy driving, you want to upshift before 3000rpm and downshift before 1000 rpm. For performance driving the higher the rpm the more horsepower and the more engine-braking ability. Have fun.
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Originally Posted by taz98spin
Yeah, that's what I've been doing. So is it ok or not??
#33
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Originally Posted by jlukja
I don't know the inner workings of a transmission to tell you absolutely yes or no. I've been doing it and I've had 0 problems.
Thanks! Good to know! I was worried there for a sec
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#34
Originally Posted by Benz_05_TSX
^ And don't forget, you can "pretend" to be a Manual car when you roll back after you relase the handbrake!
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Originally Posted by Benz_05_TSX
^ And don't forget, you can "pretend" to be a Manual car when you roll back after you relase the handbrake! Hahahaa...
But I do that sometimes too when I am too lazy to put my foot on the brake or when I am doing something during a stop. Pop it in Neutral and handbrake.
But I do that sometimes too when I am too lazy to put my foot on the brake or when I am doing something during a stop. Pop it in Neutral and handbrake.
I don't understand people that try to make their autos look like manuals by doing ^ and putting a shift boot over the gear shifter
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Originally Posted by wenge
I've driven a manual for years, it's not the amazing display of testicular fortitude people make it out to be.
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Originally Posted by psteng19
Why when you can go for the real deal? It's not like other cars where it's not offered, e.g. IS350.
I don't understand people that try to make their autos look like manuals by doing ^ and putting a shift boot over the gear shifter![Why Me](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/whyme.gif)
I don't understand people that try to make their autos look like manuals by doing ^ and putting a shift boot over the gear shifter
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Originally Posted by jlukja
I've shifted into neutral while the car was moving all my life, never had a problem. Almost all those instances were when I was descending a hill and didn't want the engine to do the braking for me (even in 5th gear). In those instances I usually shift into neutral to coast down a hill. At the end of the hill, when the car returns naturally to approx 60-65 mph I rev the engine (which is idling at 600rpm while in neutral) to around 2000rpm and then put it back in D. If I need to shift back to D at some higher speed I just rev the engine to the appropriate rpm for that speed (called "rev-matching").
Its not the same a neutral-drop or a neutral-slam. A neutral drop is when, at a standstill, you gun the engine to a high rpm in neutral and then drop it into gear to get the tires spinning. That is very bad for your transmission.
If you want to experiment with SS just watch what the automatic transmission does when in D. (i.e. watch for when, at what rpm, the tranny upshifts and downshifts) and initially, mimic that. Once you get the hang of it then experiment with how the car feels if you let it rev up higher or downshift sooner. In general, for economy driving, you want to upshift before 3000rpm and downshift before 1000 rpm. For performance driving the higher the rpm the more horsepower and the more engine-braking ability. Have fun.
Its not the same a neutral-drop or a neutral-slam. A neutral drop is when, at a standstill, you gun the engine to a high rpm in neutral and then drop it into gear to get the tires spinning. That is very bad for your transmission.
If you want to experiment with SS just watch what the automatic transmission does when in D. (i.e. watch for when, at what rpm, the tranny upshifts and downshifts) and initially, mimic that. Once you get the hang of it then experiment with how the car feels if you let it rev up higher or downshift sooner. In general, for economy driving, you want to upshift before 3000rpm and downshift before 1000 rpm. For performance driving the higher the rpm the more horsepower and the more engine-braking ability. Have fun.
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Originally Posted by Benz_05_TSX
I always thought using SS affects milage even if you shift at the same rpm when it's in D. Somehow..SS jus uses more fuel....from what I heard.
Originally Posted by Benz_05_TSX
And, is there a difference in milage for shifting under 2k rpm and under 3k rpm?? I am still trying to test/expierment that theory.
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^ so what you saying is... If I apply the same pressure on the gas pedal in two scenerios. One always upshift at 2k rpm and the other always upshift from 2.5-3k rpm. The 2k rpm scenerio will still safe more gas? Because I heard from rumor that if you rev below 3k rpm, the gas milage is always the same (waste the same amount of gas) whether you shift at 2k rpm, or 3k rpm.