outgassing
what is outgassing?
more so in how outgassing relates to an automobile?
04-27-2005, 01:37 PM
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Outgassing is the release of a gas trapped or frozen in some material. This is not to be confused with sublimation or boiling which are phase transitions of a substance into a gas.
Outgassing on spacecraft
Outgassing is a problem encountered in high-vacuum applications. For example, NASA maintains a list of low-outgassing materials to be used for spacecraft that have sensitive optics, as outgassing can cause deposits on mirrors, optical lenses, thermal radiators, or solar cells. Materials not normally considered absorbent can release enough light molecules to interfere with industrial or scientific processes. Even metals and glasses can release gases from cracks or impurities, but sealants, lubricants, and adhesives are the most common cause. The rate of outgassing increases at higher temperatures. For most solid materials, the method of manufacture and preparation can reduce the level of outgassing significantly. Cleaning surfaces or baking individual components or the entire assembly before use can drive off volatiles.
Outgassing on spacecraft
Outgassing is a problem encountered in high-vacuum applications. For example, NASA maintains a list of low-outgassing materials to be used for spacecraft that have sensitive optics, as outgassing can cause deposits on mirrors, optical lenses, thermal radiators, or solar cells. Materials not normally considered absorbent can release enough light molecules to interfere with industrial or scientific processes. Even metals and glasses can release gases from cracks or impurities, but sealants, lubricants, and adhesives are the most common cause. The rate of outgassing increases at higher temperatures. For most solid materials, the method of manufacture and preparation can reduce the level of outgassing significantly. Cleaning surfaces or baking individual components or the entire assembly before use can drive off volatiles.
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04-27-2005, 02:10 PM
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I have heard this term used in connection with cars. In fact, it was used by a friend of mine that works at an Acura dealer. Regardless of whether the term is being used correctly or not, it is my understanding that the term is intended to apply to the release of any solvents, conditioners and the like from the interior materials of a car, generally plastics, leather, vinyl and carpeting. It is the release of these materials that causes a slight haze on the interior glass and mirrors. I was told that there is very little that can be done about it, except wait it out and clean these interior surfaces. My experience has been that after a few warm months, the outgassing stops (at least noticeably)....
04-27-2005, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
This thread needs to be outgassed.
how do we precent the car from ingassing?
answer: stick a trout in your mouth yo.
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04-27-2005, 03:19 PM
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this board has some vicious moderators...down boys 
http://pubs.acs.org/cen/whatstuff/stuff/8020stuff.html
http://pubs.acs.org/cen/whatstuff/stuff/8020stuff.html
04-27-2005, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Elephantman_nosefacehead
this board has some vicious moderators...down boys
http://pubs.acs.org/cen/whatstuff/stuff/8020stuff.html
http://pubs.acs.org/cen/whatstuff/stuff/8020stuff.html
And you should have made it clearer in your original post. Would have been less confusion.
04-27-2005, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Outgassing is mentioned once in the whole article...
And you should have made it clearer in your original post. Would have been less confusion.
And you should have made it clearer in your original post. Would have been less confusion.
He loves fucking with us.
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04-27-2005, 03:55 PM
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I'm kinda enjoying all the silly replies to the original post, so if he would have made it more clear to start, it would have been a much more boring thread.
I guess I shouldn't beat my wife anymore and blame her for the window haze caused by smoking in the car. I wonder if she outgasses?
I guess I shouldn't beat my wife anymore and blame her for the window haze caused by smoking in the car. I wonder if she outgasses?
04-27-2005, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TSXey
I'm kinda enjoying all the silly replies to the original post, so if he would have made it more clear to start, it would have been a much more boring thread.
I guess I shouldn't beat my wife anymore and blame her for the window haze caused by smoking in the car. I wonder if she outgasses?
I guess I shouldn't beat my wife anymore and blame her for the window haze caused by smoking in the car. I wonder if she outgasses?
:troutslap
04-27-2005, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TSXey
I only do it with a soft fish ...I can hear it coming, don't ask "do what" and don't ask what I'm hearing coming ....errr I better shut up.
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Ahem! Back in order folks! Enough with the troutslap. Use it wisely dzuy, because it will definitely disappear someday if you don't.
That being said elephant, I didn't know what outgassing was, but found your references an interesting read.
I am one of those who thoroughly enjoy the smell of outgassing. It's a shame it doesn't last longer.
Still, admit you gotta love the humor round here.
Originally Posted by xizor
this is a reasonable quesiton, but you have to be a bit more descriptive in the first post.
That being said elephant, I didn't know what outgassing was, but found your references an interesting read.
I am one of those who thoroughly enjoy the smell of outgassing. It's a shame it doesn't last longer.
Still, admit you gotta love the humor round here.
04-28-2005, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sauceman
Ahem! Back in order folks! Enough with the troutslap. Use it wisely dzuy, because it will definitely disappear someday if you don't.
a bit oxymoronic isn't it ?dont understand WTF you guys are waitin for...so fuckin sick of seeing that :shakehead
04-28-2005, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by matelot
use it wisely ? a bit oxymoronic isn't it ?
dont understand WTF you guys are waitin for...so fuckin sick of seeing that :shakehead
a bit oxymoronic isn't it ?dont understand WTF you guys are waitin for...so fuckin sick of seeing that :shakehead
Sir Matelot,
I think you're on to a better topic for a new post.
Better than this piece of
04-30-2005, 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by raynord
How about laying off the beans and cabbage. 
I have carpool riders, and I guess eventually they'll outgas at some time, but I don't know how to prevent it, so like the initiator of this thread, I am concerned about it. As mentioned before, a thin film of gaseous emittants is deposited over the surface of the interior, most noticeable on glass, etc. Of course, the outgassing is noticeable in other ways, too. A lighter or match will help a bit. When my wife eats chocolate cake, she really outgasses ... If you've ever seen video footage of volcanologists attempting to approach a crater spewing lava, dressed up in one of those bulky heat-protective suits and handling samples with tongs, you've got a mental picture of the dangerous consequences of chocolate cake outgassing. Thought I'd share.
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Don't eat at Taco Bell? 
I dunno if I would call it outgassing, but when I first bought my TSX the ebony interior had little flecks of silver, which I always assumed was from the dash, as it was the exact same color as the silver trim and looked the same. There seemed to be quite a bit of it on the back seat. Vacuumed right up, though.
I dunno if I would call it outgassing, but when I first bought my TSX the ebony interior had little flecks of silver, which I always assumed was from the dash, as it was the exact same color as the silver trim and looked the same. There seemed to be quite a bit of it on the back seat. Vacuumed right up, though.
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Originally Posted by nagidizy
Finally, a serious response to the original post about stopping outgassing in a TSX. I try really hard not to outgas inmy TSX, and luckily I've not done it yet. Well, once, but I had the windows down. It really takes away from that "new car smell" when outgassing occurs.
I have carpool riders, and I guess eventually they'll outgas at some time, but I don't know how to prevent it, so like the initiator of this thread, I am concerned about it. As mentioned before, a thin film of gaseous emittants is deposited over the surface of the interior, most noticeable on glass, etc. Of course, the outgassing is noticeable in other ways, too. A lighter or match will help a bit. When my wife eats chocolate cake, she really outgasses ... If you've ever seen video footage of volcanologists attempting to approach a crater spewing lava, dressed up in one of those bulky heat-protective suits and handling samples with tongs, you've got a mental picture of the dangerous consequences of chocolate cake outgassing. Thought I'd share.
I have carpool riders, and I guess eventually they'll outgas at some time, but I don't know how to prevent it, so like the initiator of this thread, I am concerned about it. As mentioned before, a thin film of gaseous emittants is deposited over the surface of the interior, most noticeable on glass, etc. Of course, the outgassing is noticeable in other ways, too. A lighter or match will help a bit. When my wife eats chocolate cake, she really outgasses ... If you've ever seen video footage of volcanologists attempting to approach a crater spewing lava, dressed up in one of those bulky heat-protective suits and handling samples with tongs, you've got a mental picture of the dangerous consequences of chocolate cake outgassing. Thought I'd share.
