lol yup ive threadjacked myself

 

NY huh. Well then give this guy a call instead.

 

 

OK now I feel bad, this guy has a very serious problem. Back on topic ....

 

Here's his thread from yesterday for reference.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16119

 

Call BBB or AHM...

 

lets get back on the topic.. any other ideas or things to say to the dealer

 

Or even try to talk to the highest ranking person at the dealership. Threaten to take legal action. It might be a painful process, but you'll win in the end.

Or if you finally realize that all this back-and-forth isn't worth the time, just buy the car from the place you have the $2,000 deposit at.

 

Just post the name of the dealer and salesman who wont give you your money back here and we will all be sure not to buy from them anymore...

(Mods, is this ok to do???)

 

I just don't get it. I mean, I don't care what the car is. A deposit of more then $100.00 is ridiculous. You put down 2K, that is way too much. So much that you want your deposit back. Just go there when there is a large crowd and demand in a loud voice that you want your money back now. Ask nicely first, then tell them what you are about to do and continue to do so. Call police. Do whatever it takes to get your money back.

Lesson learned i guess.

 

yea leasson learned... i didnt wanna deposit 2k they required 2k.. o wells..

o and the dealership is Acura Of Ocean on route 35... and the dealers name i forgot his name but i have it on my receipt i think..

 

DEVO has a good idea. If you return to the dealership and they refuse to return your money just call the police. They may or may not be able to do anything but the threat of them showing up in front of other customers may be enough to encourage the dealership to be more accomodating. And I do mean call them and report a theft. Also, get in touch with an attorney. If the sales guy refuses see the manager, then the dealership's general manager, and then the owner. Threaten to contact your local BBB to file a complaint. Threaten to post your experience on Acurazine mentioning names. If they are a member of the local Chamber of Commerce then threaten to lodge a complaint with them. If you don't get results then follow through and do it. Become a nuisance and a general pain in the butt. As soon as you become more trouble than you're worth you will get your money back.

I suggest when you visit them next bring a signed letter demanding the return of your money. Give it to them and tell them that you're notifying them in writing and establishin a paper trail for your lawsuit.

 

thanks thats alot of info you just gave me ill try some of them and see what happens... they claim to b the biggest and best acura dealer around so why should my 2k be so important to them..

 

Have you spoken with the ground manager?

 

ive spoken to a manager but i dont know if he was the sales manager or assistant manager.. i was to angry to care..

 

Go in there on a busy day (Saturday) and threaten to call the police right there and then. Doubt they'd want that type of publicity...

 

The dealer asked me to pay $500 downpayment to reserve the car. I was in Champaign, IL at the time. I did my research, shopped for cars, test drove over break. Found out they had a 6MT Non Navi CG coming in a week, I asked them for $25000, they said $26000, I said $25500 (plus no dealer fee and give me the plates), they said okay. I paid $26,890 full in money order so I guess that's a little more than 2k in cash?

 

yea i think im gonna make a big show on friday...

 

 

No need, unless absolutely necessary. Try to be as civilized as possible, you crazy guy.

(Talking to the highest executive will normally solve this case)

 

 

Don't get mad until you have to.

Again, find the highest up guy you can. Explain to him that after discussing it at home, and looking at insurance costs, it's pretty clear you can't afford the car, and you'll have to look for something that's both cheap and cheap to insure for a 17 year old. In NJ, this is not much of a stretch. Your insurance situation is even worse than California.

Unless the agreement you signed said that the money was nonrefundable, they are legally required to return it. Since you apparently had no purchase contract, there should be no legal question about this at all.

If you can bring an adult along, it might help. One who would sound credible when he used the words "small claims court." (For $2K, getting any sort of a lawyer involved would be pretty counterproductive. Filing a small claims suit is easy, cheap, and you have all the evidence you need.)

 

lol i was just going to sugguest u call tony soprano since your in new jersey

 

hey man, sorry to hear about the situation - They just want to make you think you can't get it back.

Try to find a family friend thats a lawyer that can draft a letter (the more official looking the better)

it might take some time - but in the end you'll get your $$ back - don't expect to get it back right away - the more angry you get with them the more they'll use it against you. Capisce?

I've found in dealing with dealers and manufacturers remaining perfectly calm and collected is the best way to show them you know whats up. (i made vw buy back my wife's 2000 lemon of a jetta this way)

good luck

in the future - try never to pay in cash - once they have it, it's not easy to get back (also even if things went smooth and you did purchase a car from them but something was wrong with it - scraches, whatever, you can always stop payment on a check)

 

I10O0I1, you have started it all wrong, and now you want to negotiate AFTER you've given the deposit? Come on, be a little realistic here and think about it. Once you've given a deposit, it's basically because you've agreed to the terms by which you have been discussing. You can't expect them to keep on negotiating after they've been assured of a sale!

What kind of negotiation is that? All you'll manage to do is get them annoyed, and THEN you won't get anything else out of them. Show some respect a little!

Edit: Wow, finished reading the thread, and I am still amazed. It's not like anyone hasn't given you help ever since you started posting here, and you still manage to pull off stuff like that. Are you actually listening to what the folks have suggested to you? What's the point of you asking for advice exactly?

 

Comon not to harsh, were still young, and we like to do things without thinking, that's what makes us youthfull! Dude just give them a really hard time, apologize, and take your $$ elsewhere, and MAKE SURE it's the car you want this time. You mentioned you did not even know the name of the dealer you left the deposit at, which is not even a good sign. Fight the system!!!

 

Here's a great site that could've helped you: www.carbuyingtips.com

 

Asking for $500 and requiring you to pay $500 upfront are 2 different things. Did you try talking them down on the number?

Plus I don't get the whole point of a deposit on an item that there are plenty of. Sure there was a huge demand for the car when it first came out but that's not the case any longer. Walking away from the deal would have probably proved just as effective.

 

Suspect the dealer felt hinky about dealing with a young'n and may have asked for the upfront money in order to confirm that the deal was real - probably fell over when he got $2K in cash as "earnest money". $2,000 is a lot, particularly when the car is no longer hot off the presses. Certainly did not put a deposit on my leasecar while waiting for the deal to be confirmed. Have only paid one deposit in my life, and that as $100 to demonstrate that I would walk back in the door again.

Don't know what the legalities are, but a decent lawyer ought to be able to help; I suspect the dealer took advantage of this kiddo six ways for sunday 'cause he didn't believe the deal, then got pissed when the deal walked. And the kid needs to learn to chill while negotiating a car deal. There is ALWAYS another car, another deal, and after a while, the deals get very close to each other, epecially in NJ, where there are Acura dealers all over the state. Lesson learned: if they want more than a few hundred bucks earnest money, it ain't worth it.

 

Comedy, why the HELL did you give them TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS just to hold the car??? Stupid. And futhermore, why would you sign something that dosent say you will get you money back?? When I ordered my TSX, I gave a $100 deposit and signed a form that said I would get it back no matter what happens.

Dont get a lawyer dood, they could really get nasty and not only will you not get your 2K back, but then you have to pay the lawyer. If they didnt deposit the check, just cancel it!

Edit: ugh....You gave them cash

 

it's the cash part that is the challenge....................... cancelling a check would have taken a minute with your friendly banker............

 

Yea, fuggedaboutit. They probably headed off to Alantic City the second you walked out the door.

 

They said the dealer policy is $500 (fully refundable) I paid by credit card over the phone. Acutally I bought my car and the Acura dealer drove it to my house for me while I was away in college, just hope they didn't have too much fun driving my car... 26 miles on it... when it only takes about 10 to get from the dealer to my place.

 

He's got a receipt, and law in just about every state requires them to inform him up front if the deposit it non-refundable. Since they didn't, he can get it back.

 

Interesting. Do you know which statute that is here in Cal? Never heard of that.

 

That's the thing that bothers me the most. Why the hell would you pay a deposit in cash? You always, ALWAYS!!, pay for a deposit with a credit card or check because you can always fight those.

 

Yeah, in fact leave the checkbook at home. If they won't take credit card, you probably don't want to deal with them.

 

Rees-Levering act covers auto sales in California. It specifies to the tiniest detail what must and must not be in a vehicle sale contract. If you have no such contract, then there's no sale. In that case, your "deposit" is nothing more than something you've given to the dealer, with some kind of verbal assurance as to what it's about. Since there's no contract, he owes you nothing, you owe him nothing, and he has no right to keep the money. (This is just plain common contract law. There has to be an agreement and a tangible exchange in order for a contract to be valid.)

BTC

 

i understand im headin to the dealer right now so wish me luck

 

Good Luck.


and remember not to lose your head. Be cool, calm, and collected.