My complaint letter
#81
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so now i am waiting for everything to be fixed. geico advised me to have everything fixed (new bumper, all errors fixed, detailed, etc.) and then after it is all done, then go to the shop manager's boss and discuss everything else (time, mileage, cost) as a seperate issue so that we can at least get the car back to its original condition. so it will take until tuesday to get it all done, I will contact the boss's boss on wednesday with geico.
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Originally Posted by San-AnT
so now i am waiting for everything to be fixed. geico advised me to have everything fixed (new bumper, all errors fixed, detailed, etc.) and then after it is all done, then go to the shop manager's boss and discuss everything else (time, mileage, cost) as a seperate issue so that we can at least get the car back to its original condition. so it will take until tuesday to get it all done, I will contact the boss's boss on wednesday with geico.
Keep us posted.
#83
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Sounds like a good start. Good luck.
#85
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Glad to see your car getting fixed. Hope you get those bastards on the mileage. Too bad we won't be able to see the face of the guy that gets fired for this screw up.
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Originally Posted by randomthought
Glad to see your car getting fixed. Hope you get those bastards on the mileage. Too bad we won't be able to see the face of the guy that gets fired for this screw up.
#88
shit...this sucked big time...no wonder i didn't hear from you about the DC header install...
this is crazy....
i'll tell my friend not to go to that shop.....or maybe he should since they'll be scare now
maybe you should tell them to do some free installation to compensate that 1k joy ride
this is crazy....
i'll tell my friend not to go to that shop.....or maybe he should since they'll be scare now
maybe you should tell them to do some free installation to compensate that 1k joy ride
#89
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Originally Posted by kyotousa
shit...this sucked big time...no wonder i didn't hear from you about the DC header install...
this is crazy....
i'll tell my friend not to go to that shop.....or maybe he should since they'll be scare now
maybe you should tell them to do some free installation to compensate that 1k joy ride
this is crazy....
i'll tell my friend not to go to that shop.....or maybe he should since they'll be scare now
maybe you should tell them to do some free installation to compensate that 1k joy ride
#92
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still dont have it back. i was told it would be ready last wednesday, then thursday, then friday, now monday. geico rep. is going over there on monday to inspect progress and discuss this with the service manager.
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Originally Posted by San-AnT
i was told it would be ready last wednesday, then thursday, then friday, now monday.
#94
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fuck fuck fuck fuck.
the service manager is not returning my calls, he is sending his flunkies to call me after he leaves for the day. I called at noon to speak with him. after holding forever, i was told that he was in a meeting and would call me back. at that point, i told the person that i would be there before 5:30 that day to speak with him personally. at 5, i got a call from someone telling me that my car would be ready by tomorrow at noon. the service manager had left for the day. I am told that the car is still at the detailing company. I have been told this since last wednesday. However, I was told today by an unknowing employee that my car was not taken to Ming until friday afternoon - not the wednesday afternoon that the service manager had told me. I now have the phone and fax number of the red mccombs general manager and will write a letter to be faxed in the morning. it will include the original complaint letter and my new, revised letter. I will post it later.
the service manager is not returning my calls, he is sending his flunkies to call me after he leaves for the day. I called at noon to speak with him. after holding forever, i was told that he was in a meeting and would call me back. at that point, i told the person that i would be there before 5:30 that day to speak with him personally. at 5, i got a call from someone telling me that my car would be ready by tomorrow at noon. the service manager had left for the day. I am told that the car is still at the detailing company. I have been told this since last wednesday. However, I was told today by an unknowing employee that my car was not taken to Ming until friday afternoon - not the wednesday afternoon that the service manager had told me. I now have the phone and fax number of the red mccombs general manager and will write a letter to be faxed in the morning. it will include the original complaint letter and my new, revised letter. I will post it later.
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man i hope they get what is coming to them for giving you the run around like this. You would think that after the original screw ups and you bringing up the issues, they would be more willing to get things done early.
Good luck and keep us poster.
Good luck and keep us poster.
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Originally Posted by San-AnT
fuck fuck fuck fuck.
the service manager is not returning my calls, he is sending his flunkies to call me after he leaves for the day. I called at noon to speak with him. after holding forever, i was told that he was in a meeting and would call me back. at that point, i told the person that i would be there before 5:30 that day to speak with him personally. at 5, i got a call from someone telling me that my car would be ready by tomorrow at noon. the service manager had left for the day. I am told that the car is still at the detailing company. I have been told this since last wednesday. However, I was told today by an unknowing employee that my car was not taken to Ming until friday afternoon - not the wednesday afternoon that the service manager had told me. I now have the phone and fax number of the red mccombs general manager and will write a letter to be faxed in the morning. it will include the original complaint letter and my new, revised letter. I will post it later.
the service manager is not returning my calls, he is sending his flunkies to call me after he leaves for the day. I called at noon to speak with him. after holding forever, i was told that he was in a meeting and would call me back. at that point, i told the person that i would be there before 5:30 that day to speak with him personally. at 5, i got a call from someone telling me that my car would be ready by tomorrow at noon. the service manager had left for the day. I am told that the car is still at the detailing company. I have been told this since last wednesday. However, I was told today by an unknowing employee that my car was not taken to Ming until friday afternoon - not the wednesday afternoon that the service manager had told me. I now have the phone and fax number of the red mccombs general manager and will write a letter to be faxed in the morning. it will include the original complaint letter and my new, revised letter. I will post it later.
#97
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the paint and detail was contracted out, but they installed all the replacement parts. geico felt that was the best way to get it done. however, i had my doubts but want to get the car done.
#98
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Seems like it started to build into another problem. Better check everything when you do get the car back. They might do something to it just to get back at you. Kind of paranoid, but you never know. Can't believe they would do something like this to the same customer AGAIN.
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Dude, you are being way to nice. Also did you think about the fact that your car is in that situation because it got stolen from the dealership. It happens all the time. That would explain for 1000 miles on the car, and all the wear and tear the car went through. How is it possible for all that damage to come from the dealership, how is your car the exception from when everyone elses car comes out fine? There is something thats up here, im thinking it got stolen, or some other customer took off with it, or something, but they arent telling you the truth. I personally would get a lawyer involved, and even though it sounds upsurd, I would fight for a new car. There is no telling what kind of neglect and hidden abuse your car has been through. Plus all the crap you have already taken.
#102
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Can't believe they would do something like this to the same customer AGAIN.
#103
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I think it sounds like it's time to put some kind of locator beacon on your car that you can personally monitor from a laptop or PC. They usually market them to parents as a way to keep an eye on their kids. That way when they tell you where it is you can take a screen shot showing date and time, and make a note along with a recording of the conversation. It's not like you need any stronger of a position in this case, but all this talk has gotten me thinking about buying one.
#104
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got it back today. it's like im cursed. actually, everything looks great. the new paint, the interior, all was done at Ming auto detail here in SA. they did a great job. However, as i started driving i noticed that one fog light seemed brighter than the other (through trunks of cars in front). i pulled over to find that my right fog light lens is cracked all the way across. there is a small piece of glass sitting in the housing. it does not appear to be from a rock, but from mishandling from when the front bumper was replaced. i will call them in the AM, have them order a new foglamp kit, and get it replaced.
as far as $$ compensation, i am talking with the geico rep on the most appropriate way to discuss this with the general manager.
as far as $$ compensation, i am talking with the geico rep on the most appropriate way to discuss this with the general manager.
#106
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Just now reading this story - You should be commended for how nice you were. I surely would not have been.
As a rising 3L in law school, I'd say that you definately had a legal claim. At this point, most of your "damage" appears to have been remedied, however, you need to know that you have a right to recover at least something for the 1000+ miles they put on your car. Their use of the car to that extent was certainly not authorized, and while not really grand theft (no intent to deprive you permanently), it certainly was a trespass to chattels and potentially a conversion of your property. Legally speaking, since you got the car back, they still owe you for the value deprived - that's where the negotations would seem to come in.
They probably will want to say the value of 1000 miles as far as depreciation is x, but if I were you I would go down the IRS route or some other route creating a higher value since you have no idea WHAT they did to that car for those 1000 miles. Driving it like a granny for 1000 miles is nothing - but if they were driving it like idiots in a stolen car, 1000 miles is an eternity.
Good luck with it.
As a rising 3L in law school, I'd say that you definately had a legal claim. At this point, most of your "damage" appears to have been remedied, however, you need to know that you have a right to recover at least something for the 1000+ miles they put on your car. Their use of the car to that extent was certainly not authorized, and while not really grand theft (no intent to deprive you permanently), it certainly was a trespass to chattels and potentially a conversion of your property. Legally speaking, since you got the car back, they still owe you for the value deprived - that's where the negotations would seem to come in.
They probably will want to say the value of 1000 miles as far as depreciation is x, but if I were you I would go down the IRS route or some other route creating a higher value since you have no idea WHAT they did to that car for those 1000 miles. Driving it like a granny for 1000 miles is nothing - but if they were driving it like idiots in a stolen car, 1000 miles is an eternity.
Good luck with it.
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update - turns out the repair shop did a no-no on the mileage, which is actually in thier favor. when i turned in the car initially, they did not bother to check they mileage. they just used the recorded mileage from the geico estimate 8 days earlier. I didnt bother to compare the mileage of the two different reports. so the exact mileage is unknown, but i could never in my wildest week have driven 1000 miles. I did make a short trip the weekend before and this would account for at most 500-550 miles (240 each way, with a little driving in-between). I live about 8 miles from work and drove to work for 3 days (the other 2 i stayed at my g/f's, which is less than 1 mile from work). so that's another possible 50 miles. so if i had driven a total of 600 miles, then there is still about 400 miles unaccounted for. This is what I believe I will argue for - 400 miles. Much more reasonable for both parties i believe.
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I got interested in this thread because I just dropped my car off for repairs (Car accident - Geico). I doubt this would happen to me because what's happened to you is just too outrageous - we all feel for you. You really are a nice guy - 400 miles is still too much - did you discover this your self or did they point this out???
Hope to hear some good news from you soon, because you sure deserve all of it.
Hope to hear some good news from you soon, because you sure deserve all of it.
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I got interested in this thread because I just dropped my car off for repairs (Car accident - Geico). I doubt this would happen to me because what's happened to you is just too outrageous - we all feel for you. You really are a nice guy - 400 miles is still too much - did you discover this your self or did they point this out???
Hope to hear some good news from you soon, because you sure deserve all of it.
Hope to hear some good news from you soon, because you sure deserve all of it.
Good luck in your repairs Sojournin!
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Its their fault for not writing down the proper milage if this is really the case which I doubt. I would say, as far as you know, its still 1000 miles and stick to it. Any unauthorized milage is wrong in my opinion.
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Wheter it's a 1000 or 600 miles, seriously, they should not had taken out the car. Judging from the pictures you posted, they seem to had done some damage to it. Imagine if they were to make a mess out of your car, I wouldn't even want to think about how they drove it during those few hundred miles. I wouldn't be suprise if you experience some type of mechanical problems down the line. If I were you, I would head down to the Acura dealership and ask them to pull the ECU reading to see if the car was ever redline.
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I've been interested in this thread, too, for the sheer spectacle of a body shop having the gall to return your car to you in worse condition than when you dropped it off. And to have joyriden in it, for however many miles, is so far out of bounds I don't believe that a simple mileage calculation is fair by any means.
There should be some punitive nature to the settlement, not simply paying you for the miles they used. They had no right to put anything other than a few miles on to check their work. B.S.!
There should be some punitive nature to the settlement, not simply paying you for the miles they used. They had no right to put anything other than a few miles on to check their work. B.S.!
#116
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ok, geico took pictures and we found some MORE problems with the car. I took it to Alamo Heights collision for the repairs. they include replacement of the front right mirror assembly (it was painted on and the rubber liners were torn), replacement of the left roof liner (they used superglue to hold the liner in place instead of the right clips) and all clips, replacement of right roof liner clips (they were not installed correctly), repainting of the right front door (bad paint job) and the rear left door (clear coat peeling), repainting of right pillar, total rebuff and polish, including getting rid of all the swirling all over the car, taking overspray off of the right side skirt, and the right rear light. Red McCombs has agreed to pay for everything. I still need to finish my letter to the general manager about the mileage and time/money wasted. however, i have faith in this new shop. they were very respectful and stated that they would have everything done right.
more to come...
more to come...
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Originally Posted by San-AnT
ok, geico took pictures and we found some MORE problems with the car. I took it to Alamo Heights collision for the repairs. they include replacement of the front right mirror assembly (it was painted on and the rubber liners were torn), replacement of the left roof liner (they used superglue to hold the liner in place instead of the right clips) and all clips, replacement of right roof liner clips (they were not installed correctly), repainting of the right front door (bad paint job) and the rear left door (clear coat peeling), repainting of right pillar, total rebuff and polish, including getting rid of all the swirling all over the car, taking overspray off of the right side skirt, and the right rear light. Red McCombs has agreed to pay for everything. I still need to finish my letter to the general manager about the mileage and time/money wasted. however, i have faith in this new shop. they were very respectful and stated that they would have everything done right.
more to come...
more to come...
i'm sure we all hope for the best for you and your car. good luck, man!
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Originally Posted by San-AnT
ok, geico took pictures and we found some MORE problems with the car. I took it to Alamo Heights collision for the repairs. they include replacement of the front right mirror assembly (it was painted on and the rubber liners were torn), replacement of the left roof liner (they used superglue to hold the liner in place instead of the right clips) and all clips, replacement of right roof liner clips (they were not installed correctly), repainting of the right front door (bad paint job) and the rear left door (clear coat peeling), repainting of right pillar, total rebuff and polish, including getting rid of all the swirling all over the car, taking overspray off of the right side skirt, and the right rear light. Red McCombs has agreed to pay for everything. I still need to finish my letter to the general manager about the mileage and time/money wasted. however, i have faith in this new shop. they were very respectful and stated that they would have everything done right.
more to come...
more to come...
Oh man I feel for you. You have been through hell and back. Since you've already gone this far don't settle for 2nd rate work by any means. I wish you the best.
EDIT ^^ oh yea and what the poster above me said too