fdl

A lot of mags and people have commented that the TSX could use more low-end punch. The car really doesnt come to life untill after 3500 rpms.

But if you have the option, of more power down low, say between 2000- 3500, or more power on the top end- ..say 5500+... ??? Which would you prefer?

TSXautoXer

Can I ask for more power everywhere? :P

rzee

I have always loved the high-end power of Honda engines.

rb1

Lord, don't let TinkySD see this...

dom

I hate to, but I have to agree with rzee

I wish this car had 225-240HP with a 8100RPM redline, thats why I've always loved Hondas

Maxboost

yeah i have to agree with both of you about top end power. i'd love to hear TSX screams at 9k with about 240 (should be too hard for honda don't you think?) i love to have more top end cuz this car is a FWD and with more low end power i would have to pay for more tires every two months cuz more burn outs every stop lights!!!

TinkySD

don't be a hata! I just think having peak torque from 2500-5000 rpms is quite impressive for a NA 4 cylinder....

fdl

Absolutely. ANd I think there is ample low end torque in this car. The question is if we had another 20 horsepower...would we want it down low, or up high.

TinkySD

I definite would like to see some more top end. Think how great this car would be if we could find a way to tune it for peak torque from 2500rpm all the way to redline.... sorta like what hondata did for the rsx but in reverse.(hondata beefed up the low end of the rsx big time)... 175lb ft @7100rpm = 236hp.... 175lbft @ 6800rpm = 226

rb1

It is, but the TSX torque curve differs very little from, say, the Sentra SE-R V-Spec in this regard.

Count Blah

Alphabet soup?

ClutchPerformer

That's a tough decision, but I'll take more low-end. That's where I spend most of my time. Thanks

darth62

Yup. There is plenty of pull above 3500 RPM, for me. I'd like more down low.

Lung Fu Mo Shi

More high end for me.

RogerPodacter

I am satisfied with the low end. Gove me more high end to scream!!!!

YBA

I miss the high rpm power rush from my type R... If the TSX could be more peppy from 7000-9500 RPM, I would be very very happy.

fdl

9500 Did your type-R actually rev this high?

kenbiddulph

Nope, not unless its had some serious mods. I think he meant 8500 rpm (I think redline was 8400 or 8500 on the Integra Type R's)

rb1

I don't quite follow your reply. I had it word for word from Nissan's web site.

LeeLee

More high end for me. While low-end gives you that satisfying push-off from the stop light, shifting from first to second just shy of red-line and then pushing it through second gear again to dust off that pesky C230/C240 requires more top end power.

High RPMs is where you do performance driving!!!

Santacruz

Top end is where you'll find Marlboro country...'cause it's smokin'

I'll take mine on the tall side please.

Count Blah

I was just saying that seems like way too many letters following Sentra. It's a jab at Nissan, not you.

rb1

Ah, OK well then jab away...

fdl

OK ... so it looks like about twice as many people would rather take additional low-end power, over top-end. (Personally I would take more top-end...because there is enough low-end in the TSX right now to be usefull and it would be nice to have some extra top-end around when I need it).

So what does this tell us? That most people would in all cases rather have most of their power down low? Or does it tell us that the TSX in particular is lacking down low and could use a boost?

LeeLee

This tells me no amount of sound engineering will ever erase the lack-of-low-end-power misconception that people have against I4s, even from those that own I4 vehicles.

I am sure if this same poll was taken of the Mazda 6S or MBW 323, more low-end power would not get nearly as many votes, even though the TSX clearly has more low end power than either cars, generating far more prodigious low-end wheel torque figures.

larchmont

Toss-up for me. And no big complaint either way anyway. I'm happy.

darth62

The TSX has plenty of high end power as well. It is rarely the case that it stuggles on the highway or at higher speeds. In fact, the empirical tests show us that the TSX blows away the M6 in highway passing times.

And, dynos on the M6 show it producing about 160 pounds of torque below 3,000 RPM. The TSX produces closer to about 150 pounds. So, I'm not sure that I agree that the TSX generates more low end power.

AKay

I want more low end power just because im happy with the high end power but would just like more torque coming out of the low end. Its not that im appalled by its low end its just my answer to the question.
I hope some future mod comes out that will improve the low end torque and I will be in loveeeeeeeeeeee.
AKay

rb1

While the TSX has ample torque from 2500 on up, I find it's sub-2000 RPM response to be typical of most other I4's (albeit better than other Honda I4's)

A 6 or 8 cylinder car will generate a healthy fraction of its peak torque (say 70%) even at a lowly 1000 RPM and will pull reasonably well throughout the 1000-2000 RPM range. An NA I4 just won't do this (although forced induction will completely change the picture from 1400 RPM or so on up).

TinkySD

Ok I think me and rb1 have finally came to a conclusion we can both agree on as far as "low end" goes. Honda does claim 90% torque from 2000rpm, unless you buy the fact that actual torque output is underrated in which case it'smore like 80%. Regardless that's not terrible...especially when contrasted with something like the 3.0 duratec in the mazda6 s. Being an auto driver i cannot comment on the 1-2k range as it is impossible to drive within it....however i'm sure it's not all that strong. My question is with the very aggresive gearing is it even easy to drive at such a low rpm? Even with the auto it seems to rev so smoothly that you would almost seem to have to be trying to drive it at such a low rpm.

YBA

You're right, the Teg R does only 8400RPM (or 8500 I don't remember. I was talking about 9500RPM as a "would be nice to have" on the TSX. I'm allowed to dream right?

Lung Fu Mo Shi

I would say no.

I don't know why, but somehow I keep bouncing off the rev limiter.

Damn if I'm not a candidate for a used S2000....now if only I had the money...