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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 11:47 AM
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If your TSX is not built in Japan......

Will you guys still buy your TSX if it is not built in Japan?

Personally, I may go for something else if TSX is not built in Japan as those that is made in Japan has a better quality control.

How about you all???
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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it is true that the quality is better built in Japan, but it would not have anything to do with my car buying decision. if it is a nice car then it's a nice car no matter where it was built. just look at the new Accords, they are built here in the US and the quality and the reliability are just as good as the older ones that were built in Japan.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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I'd be lying if I said the fact that the TSX is made in Japan did not influence my buying decision.

But if it wasn't, I don't think it would be a big deal.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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i would probably choose the accord over the tsx if both were made in the US.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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im kind of undecided on this issue......., i agree that it did influence my buying...., but at the same time......, it seems like usdm accords are of the same quality....., and not but least i havent had any major problems with my tsx but i have had a few of the little problems that everyone has been experiencing (clutch creak, window chater, brake vibration). I guess these are all design flaws not quality controle issues. Also I havent owned any usdm products to compare....., but ive never heard of anyone having any problems. I have heard of recalls on usdm...., and havent heard of any on jdm...... so who knows......??
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 12:21 PM
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yupp, i m proud that my car is still one of a few car out there that's made in Japan (like 95%)....... they definity had better quality control
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 12:24 PM
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yup. the fact that the car was made in japan was a factor and a plus. but it didn't make or break the deal.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 12:27 PM
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after owning a 98 accord coupe (made in ohio), i have made a promise to myself never to buy a honda from ohio again

if the TL was made in japan, id probably choose it over the TSX though :x
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 12:32 PM
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Wouldn't matter to me.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 12:39 PM
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Wouldn't matter to me.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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Wouldn't matter to me.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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FYI, the same manufacturing and assembly processes, tolerances, controls and inspection methods are used in every plant. The fact that the TSX is 100% built in Japan is neat, but makes no indication of greater quality. I know people that work at these places and I think they share the same pride in the quality of their work as do the Japanese.

Take Toyota as an example. They are the envy of manufacturing here in the U.S.. I work in a place that takes tours of their plants to improve our own manufacturing processes. If the Accord wasn't so butt ugly IMO, I would've bought it b/c it is built here.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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I think the whole made in Japan thing is overrated.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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FYI, the same manufacturing and assembly processes, tolerances, controls and inspection methods are used in every plant. The fact that the TSX is 100% built in Japan is neat, but makes no indication of greater quality. I know people that work at these places and I think they share the same pride in the quality of their work as do the Japanese.

Take Toyota as an example. They are the envy of manufacturing here in the U.S.. I work in a place that takes tours of their plants to improve our own manufacturing processes. If the Accord wasn't so butt ugly IMO, I would've bought it b/c it is built here.
The new prototype is looking pretty decent.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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Dang, good question. Knowing that my TSX was built in Japan was definitely a motivating factor for me to buy one. I think I would have still bought it even it was made in the USA; though I would have probably looked over a few TSXs on the dealer lot to make sure there was good build-quality.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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^ nice input. imo, if honda thinks the tsx is good enough to wear the acura badge (no matter the manufacturing site), then it's good enough for me. my family has owned several hondas (including acuras) over the past 20 years and they've rarely had issues
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by moda_way
FYI, the same manufacturing and assembly processes, tolerances, controls and inspection methods are used in every plant. The fact that the TSX is 100% built in Japan is neat, but makes no indication of greater quality. I know people that work at these places and I think they share the same pride in the quality of their work as do the Japanese.

Take Toyota as an example. They are the envy of manufacturing here in the U.S.. I work in a place that takes tours of their plants to improve our own manufacturing processes. If the Accord wasn't so butt ugly IMO, I would've bought it b/c it is built here.
Its the culture at Honda that enables the cars to be well built, not the perceived culture of the country where its built.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 01:40 PM
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Keep in mind that current US model Accords can come from assembly plants in Ohio, Japan or Mexico. Working on them every day...I'd say I don't see any appreciable difference in the number of problems from one assembly location to another.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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It would matter to me, in fact, in case of infiniti qx56 --which is made in US plant--the reliability is rated among the worst, while all the other infinitis that are made in japan --especially m35, m45 -- the reliability is among the top. This is just one example, I think same thing will happen if Honda starts to build cars in US plant.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by gtg710w
It would matter to me, in fact, in case of infiniti qx56 --which is made in US plant--the reliability is rated among the worst, while all the other infinitis that are made in japan --especially m35, m45 -- the reliability is among the top. This is just one example, I think same thing will happen if Honda starts to build cars in US plant.
They already do!
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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Honda needs to move TSX mfg to Germany and partner with VW if they require better reliability!


Ok, that was just plain old cruel ... lol

I think that the Japanese quality is pretty top notch. Coming from an '05 Accord, I think that the overall quality of Honda/Acura is very good no matter where the cars are mfg. To be honest, I had 0 dealer fixes on my Accord in the year that I had her and 1 so far with my '06 TSX... Some just slip through the cracks...
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 02:04 PM
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Woops ... I meant 2 for the TSX ... seat squeek and voice command sensor / unit for the NAVI.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by gtg710w
It would matter to me, in fact, in case of infiniti qx56 --which is made in US plant--the reliability is rated among the worst, while all the other infinitis that are made in japan --especially m35, m45 -- the reliability is among the top. This is just one example, I think same thing will happen if Honda starts to build cars in US plant.
Pretty ignorant. Their are several Honda/Acura models built in the US.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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I think we need to exclude people of the Asian persuasion from this question. No doubt their is some bias going on.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by joerockt
I think we need to exclude people of the Asian persuasion from this question. No doubt their is some bias going on.

As mildly racist as we are grammatically challenged, aren't we?

So let's play. I propose that we exclude people of the Wonder Bread persuasion from this thread as well, as this question was implicitly of a dual hypothetical situation, no?: that the TSX is of Japanese build or a TSX of USA build.

And allow me to be an exception to your rule, Joe. This person of the rice noodle persuasion couldn't care less where the TSX is made so long as it's of at least the same quality as of current.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by joerockt
Pretty ignorant. Their are several Honda/Acura models built in the US.

oops i meant TSX in particular
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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I didn't even know my tsx was made in Japan until I saw the vin # on my paperwork. I was much more concerned with researching the important stuff like reliability, maintenance, resale etc...
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by joerockt
I think we need to exclude people of the Asian persuasion from this question. No doubt their is some bias going on.
and that is VERY IGNORANT OF YOU, last time I check people like you were called racist.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 03:34 PM
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i didn't know where it was built until after i bought it.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ASIMO
As mildly racist as we are grammatically challenged, aren't we?

So let's play. I propose that we exclude people of the Wonder Bread persuasion from this thread as well, as this question was implicitly of a dual hypothetical situation, no?: that the TSX is of Japanese build or a TSX of USA build.

And allow me to be an exception to your rule, Joe. This person of the rice noodle persuasion couldn't care less where the TSX is made so long as it's of at least the same quality as of current.
Way to read into it. So you honestly think a majority of Asians DON'T consider a TSX based on the fact that its 100% made in Japan?

And guess what, this might be a news flash to you, but rednecks buy Chevy's because their "made in America"

Dont pull the fucking racist card on me. I don't think I'd be owning a TSX if I was...
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by waTSX
I think the whole made in Japan thing is overrated.


look at how bad the tsx have a lot of problems :

rattles (it almost drove me crazy until JTso helped me fixing all the rattles )
steering wheel never straight
excessive road noise
what else, hmm hollow door panel, knock it and you'll know how cheap it is.

the most annoying ones is rattle.

I wouldnt buy the TSX if I know this car has too many minor but annoying problems.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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Lets put that race card back in the deck.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 06:42 PM
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The fact that my car was already JDM when I bought it influenced the purchase.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 06:47 PM
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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No, it would not have mattered to me.

I would have bought a TL if it had rear seats that would fold down. It didn't, and so I bought the TSX instead. The TL is made in Ohio, and it did not matter to me.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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Hey, my 5 yr old Playstation 2 and my 16 yr old Sega Genesis are also Made in Japan.

So far no problems they have both good build quality.

Anyways, I would be fine if a Japanese or German car were assembled in the USA or in Japan or Germany.

I would never buy a car that is assembled in Mexico though. Take a look at the quality problems of the VW Jettas and Beetles for examples of poor quality there.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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If you want to know the only Japan made Acuras currently are the
TSX and RL. Former Acuras made in Japan were the RSX and NSX.

While I think on the Honda side only the S2000, Civic and Accord hybrid, and Insight are the only ones made in Japan.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ASIMO
As mildly racist as we are grammatically challenged, aren't we?

So let's play. I propose that we exclude people of the Wonder Bread persuasion from this thread as well, as this question was implicitly of a dual hypothetical situation, no?: that the TSX is of Japanese build or a TSX of USA build.

And allow me to be an exception to your rule, Joe. This person of the rice noodle persuasion couldn't care less where the TSX is made so long as it's of at least the same quality as of current.
It's not a matter of being grammatically challenged, but rather a dubious use of homophones.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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If the quality is there, it makes no difference where the car is built.

My previous 2 Honda Civics were built in Canada (Alliston plant in Ontario), and quality was also top notch. Design, component quality control, assembly processes and overall quality control are more important than the location of a factory.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 11:28 PM
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lol maybe in the 80s or early 90s (remember the movie Gung-ho w/ Michael Keaton?) I think its all good if its made in Japan or USA. Does not really make a big difference.
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