Another Soon-to-be TSX Driver
09-01-2003, 11:42 PM
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Another Soon-to-be TSX Driver
Two weeks ago a TSX passed me on the highway and it totally caught my eye. It was the first one I had seen in person. I was seriously considering getting an A4, but after that, I had to go check one out. So I test drove one for the first time yesterday and now I HAVE to get one. I love the interior of this car!
They had 6 TSX's on the lot: 3 meteor silver and 3 satin silver. I want to see one in carbon grey, nighthawk black or arctic blue before I order mine (automatic, navi). They have several due in late Sept.
I have some questions about the colors if someone could answer them. Is the nighthawk a metallic black? How is the arctic blue in comparison to the blue on the CL? Is it deeper or darker or what?
They were out of brochures, so the only way I've seen the other colors is in pics online and in mags.
Thanks in advance!
They had 6 TSX's on the lot: 3 meteor silver and 3 satin silver. I want to see one in carbon grey, nighthawk black or arctic blue before I order mine (automatic, navi). They have several due in late Sept.
I have some questions about the colors if someone could answer them. Is the nighthawk a metallic black? How is the arctic blue in comparison to the blue on the CL? Is it deeper or darker or what?
They were out of brochures, so the only way I've seen the other colors is in pics online and in mags.
Thanks in advance!
09-02-2003, 01:11 AM
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Re: Another Soon-to-be TSX Driver
Originally posted by CWSea
I have some questions about the colors if someone could answer them. Is the nighthawk a metallic black? How is the arctic blue in comparison to the blue on the CL? Is it deeper or darker or what?
I have some questions about the colors if someone could answer them. Is the nighthawk a metallic black? How is the arctic blue in comparison to the blue on the CL? Is it deeper or darker or what?
Also, you might want to search the galleries and past threads, all colors have had posted pictures.
Regardless of which color you pick, the TSX looks great in all the colors it is available in and you can't say that for many cars.
09-02-2003, 11:23 AM
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Re: Another Soon-to-be TSX Driver
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They had 6 TSX's on the lot: 3 meteor silver and 3 satin silver. I want to see one in carbon grey, nighthawk black or arctic blue before I order mine (automatic, navi). They have several due in late Sept.
They had 6 TSX's on the lot: 3 meteor silver and 3 satin silver. I want to see one in carbon grey, nighthawk black or arctic blue before I order mine (automatic, navi). They have several due in late Sept.
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Thanks for all the info. I made the mistake of going to the dealership on a weekend. It was crazy. I would usually like the fact that they left me alone to look, but when I finally had some questions, it was difficult to get some answers. I'm going back on a weekday to ask more questions and look for the colors on other models.
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Re: Another Soon-to-be TSX Driver
Originally posted by CWSea
They had 6 TSX's on the lot: 3 meteor silver and 3 satin silver. I want to see one in carbon grey, nighthawk black or arctic blue before I order mine (automatic, navi). They have several due in late Sept.
They had 6 TSX's on the lot: 3 meteor silver and 3 satin silver. I want to see one in carbon grey, nighthawk black or arctic blue before I order mine (automatic, navi). They have several due in late Sept.
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09-13-2003, 11:46 PM
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I'm now a TSX owner!!!
I had finally decided on the color I wanted and was told it would be 4-5 weeks before it arrived. I went in to the dealer today to leave my deposit and he told me that a Nighthawk Black Pearl/Ebony/5AT/Navi TSX had just arrived and was no longer claimed. I sooooo lucked out! I bought it right then. WooHoo!
It was kinda cool to see it just off the truck, with all of the plastic coating on it. They did a great job detailing it.
It was the easiest car-buying experience I've ever had.
I'm getting the spoiler put on it Wednesday and they already have a loaner TSX reserved for me.
It was kinda cool to see it just off the truck, with all of the plastic coating on it. They did a great job detailing it.
It was the easiest car-buying experience I've ever had.
I'm getting the spoiler put on it Wednesday and they already have a loaner TSX reserved for me.
09-13-2003, 11:58 PM
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Originally posted by CWSea
I had finally decided on the color I wanted and was told it would be 4-5 weeks before it arrived. I went in to the dealer today to leave my deposit and he told me that a Nighthawk Black Pearl/Ebony/5AT/Navi TSX had just arrived and was no longer claimed. I sooooo lucked out! I bought it right then. WooHoo!
It was kinda cool to see it just off the truck, with all of the plastic coating on it. They did a great job detailing it.
It was the easiest car-buying experience I've ever had.
I'm getting the spoiler put on it Wednesday and they already have a loaner TSX reserved for me.
I had finally decided on the color I wanted and was told it would be 4-5 weeks before it arrived. I went in to the dealer today to leave my deposit and he told me that a Nighthawk Black Pearl/Ebony/5AT/Navi TSX had just arrived and was no longer claimed. I sooooo lucked out! I bought it right then. WooHoo!
It was kinda cool to see it just off the truck, with all of the plastic coating on it. They did a great job detailing it.
It was the easiest car-buying experience I've ever had.
I'm getting the spoiler put on it Wednesday and they already have a loaner TSX reserved for me.
09-14-2003, 03:31 AM
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paid msrp
I paid MSRP. We have 4 Acura dealerships in the Seattle area and they are all selling TSX's at MSRP, no deals. The cars are selling so fast, they don't need to deal. Believe me, I spent almost 2 weeks trying to deal with all 4 of them. No one would budge...not even $100. I honestly didn't mind paying it though, I think this car is worth it. I'm totally satisfied.
09-14-2003, 07:37 AM
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I honestly didn't mind paying it though, I think this car is worth it. I'm totally satisfied.
You paid =>30K or over for a TSX? (with tax/title/reg/spoiler/installation) You got ripped!
09-14-2003, 11:34 AM
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I don't feel like I got "ripped" at all...and that's what matters. This area is famous for its car costs. It seems like the only people I know who have been able to get $1000 or more below MSRP are people who bought crappy Pontiacs, Fords or Dodges.
I went to a Saab dealership twice to check out the 9-3 Vector. The car was fully loaded and the best price I could get was $34,600 PLUS TTL!!! It was going to be $38,200 total!
Hell, one of the Audi dealerships here (oldest one in the country, in fact) even tries the stupid "extra dealer sticker" BS. At that place you have to haggle for hours just to get the price down to MSRP. Yet they are one of the highest Audi dealers in the country in volume sales. Last week they were trying to sell a USED '02 A4 3.0 quattro with 39k miles for $32,000. My jaw dropped every time I've looked at a car there.
Almost all TSX's are presold here. I could have gotten a great deal on an '03 TL or any RSX, but no one is budging on the TSX. At least, not here.
I'm happy with my decision and I got exactly what I wanted.
I went to a Saab dealership twice to check out the 9-3 Vector. The car was fully loaded and the best price I could get was $34,600 PLUS TTL!!! It was going to be $38,200 total!
Hell, one of the Audi dealerships here (oldest one in the country, in fact) even tries the stupid "extra dealer sticker" BS. At that place you have to haggle for hours just to get the price down to MSRP. Yet they are one of the highest Audi dealers in the country in volume sales. Last week they were trying to sell a USED '02 A4 3.0 quattro with 39k miles for $32,000. My jaw dropped every time I've looked at a car there.
Almost all TSX's are presold here. I could have gotten a great deal on an '03 TL or any RSX, but no one is budging on the TSX. At least, not here.
I'm happy with my decision and I got exactly what I wanted.
09-14-2003, 11:53 AM
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I went to a Saab dealership twice to check out the 9-3 Vector. The car was fully loaded and the best price I could get was $34,600 PLUS TTL!!! It was going to be $38,200 total!
You could have gotten a fully loaded Arc (like Wishiwere) for less than 30.But anyway, as long as you're happy. Congrats!
09-14-2003, 01:06 PM
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There's an obvious reason why GM is providing $4000 (wow!) discounts on the 9-3 - demand is low. Demand is low because the 9-3 is an underwhelming performer at its set price, not because the public is misinformed or uniformed (only 93Kewl is). That is the bottom line.
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09-14-2003, 01:57 PM
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Demand is low because the 9-3 is an underwhelming performer at its set price, not because the public is misinformed or uniformed (only 93Kewl is). That is the bottom line.
Saab Cars USA drives into model year 2004 with strong August sales
Saab 9-3 Sport Sedan sales continue upward, lifting year-to-date sales up 17% over last year
Norcross, GA - August proved to be yet another strong month for the Swedish manufacturer in the U.S. Sales for the month came in at 4,209 vehicles, up three percent over 2002. For the year, Saab sales in the U.S. reached 33,085 vehicles, a 17 percent increase over last year's 28,390 for the first eight months of the year.
The car behind the sales story for Saab in 2003 is the all-new 9-3 Sport Sedan. Saab sold 2,287 of the award-winning sedan in August, a whopping 253 percent volume increase over the preceding 9-3 hardtop in August 2002. Year-to-date, the Sport Sedan is outselling the old model 9-3 hardtop by 92 percent.
"The 9-3 Sport Sedan is doing for us exactly what we had hoped and predicted," said Ed Peper, VP of Sales for Saab Cars USA. "We're seeing younger buyers coming from other brands visiting our showrooms to purchase the Sport Sedan."
Another success story at Saab can be found in the Certified Pre-Owned Program. August sales totaled 1,180 vehicles - breaking the 1,000 mark for the first time in the program's history. This volume marked a 163 percent increase over last August, and brought year-to-date sales to 6,297, a 142 percent increase over 2002.
"We're ready for the upcoming model year with increased dealer traffic and growing market share," said Peper. "Later this year we'll have other exciting product announcements to even further expand our customer appeal."
Saab 9-3 Sport Sedan sales continue upward, lifting year-to-date sales up 17% over last year
Norcross, GA - August proved to be yet another strong month for the Swedish manufacturer in the U.S. Sales for the month came in at 4,209 vehicles, up three percent over 2002. For the year, Saab sales in the U.S. reached 33,085 vehicles, a 17 percent increase over last year's 28,390 for the first eight months of the year.
The car behind the sales story for Saab in 2003 is the all-new 9-3 Sport Sedan. Saab sold 2,287 of the award-winning sedan in August, a whopping 253 percent volume increase over the preceding 9-3 hardtop in August 2002. Year-to-date, the Sport Sedan is outselling the old model 9-3 hardtop by 92 percent.
"The 9-3 Sport Sedan is doing for us exactly what we had hoped and predicted," said Ed Peper, VP of Sales for Saab Cars USA. "We're seeing younger buyers coming from other brands visiting our showrooms to purchase the Sport Sedan."
Another success story at Saab can be found in the Certified Pre-Owned Program. August sales totaled 1,180 vehicles - breaking the 1,000 mark for the first time in the program's history. This volume marked a 163 percent increase over last August, and brought year-to-date sales to 6,297, a 142 percent increase over 2002.
"We're ready for the upcoming model year with increased dealer traffic and growing market share," said Peper. "Later this year we'll have other exciting product announcements to even further expand our customer appeal."
09-14-2003, 02:19 PM
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Picked up my TSX Thursday night was a great stroke of luck. Had my Integra totaled and it appeared that I would be waiting three months to get a TSX. One SSM TSX deal fell through as it was coming off the truck and I am now the happy owner. Yes, they are hot and discounts are non-existant.
09-14-2003, 03:17 PM
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I guess the competitive environment depends on the degree of collusion and price-fixing amongst dealers as well as the number of dealers.
When I obtained quotes, I recall 4 dealers offering below MSRP. Two car buying services offered quotes below MSRP. Of course, in the Greater San Francisco Bay Area plus the Greater Sacramento area, there must be 10 Acura dealers.
My price was $800 below MSRP, $26,200. I added a few accessories that brought it close to $26,500 or so. Add to that, tax, license, doc fee ($45), and tire fee ($5). My total OTD was somewhere in the mid-$28K. Best of all, it's all paid for, although the car will not be physically OTD until Monday!!!
When I obtained quotes, I recall 4 dealers offering below MSRP. Two car buying services offered quotes below MSRP. Of course, in the Greater San Francisco Bay Area plus the Greater Sacramento area, there must be 10 Acura dealers.
My price was $800 below MSRP, $26,200. I added a few accessories that brought it close to $26,500 or so. Add to that, tax, license, doc fee ($45), and tire fee ($5). My total OTD was somewhere in the mid-$28K. Best of all, it's all paid for, although the car will not be physically OTD until Monday!!!
09-14-2003, 03:32 PM
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Most enthusiast sites are just that - for enthusiasts of the mark or model. I find it interesting this site has way more trolls than MDX.ORG does.
Every auto magazine comparison article I've read rates the TSX over the 9-3. I'm not even sure "what more" you're talking about that "some people" might want out of their cars that would make them consider a 9-3. The market is telling SAAB and GM the same thing I'm pointing out here and that's why 9-3's are being heavily rebated (or did you skip econ 101). When the rebates stop, the "strong" sales (and with only 2300 9-3's sold in August, you are talking "relatively" strong) will also stop. The final straw for me was your snide "as long as you're happy" comment to the poster who started this thread with her announcement about buying a new TSX. I think you need to move on to another forum.
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Every auto magazine comparison article I've read rates the TSX over the 9-3. I'm not even sure "what more" you're talking about that "some people" might want out of their cars that would make them consider a 9-3. The market is telling SAAB and GM the same thing I'm pointing out here and that's why 9-3's are being heavily rebated (or did you skip econ 101). When the rebates stop, the "strong" sales (and with only 2300 9-3's sold in August, you are talking "relatively" strong) will also stop. The final straw for me was your snide "as long as you're happy" comment to the poster who started this thread with her announcement about buying a new TSX. I think you need to move on to another forum.
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09-14-2003, 04:28 PM
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i totally agree...get the hell out of here and go where your comments are welcome.
I am trying to see things from kewls point of view, but i cant seem to get my head that far up my arse!! LOL
I am trying to see things from kewls point of view, but i cant seem to get my head that far up my arse!! LOL
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Every auto magazine comparison article I've read rates the TSX over the 9-3. I'm not even sure "what more" you're talking about that "some people" might want out of their cars that would make them consider a 9-3.
http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/show...5&pagenumber=1
http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/show...5&pagenumber=1
Don't like the fact that I drive another brand of car? Too bad. Don't like the fact that I think paying MSRP FOR ANY CAR (which was my original statement)? Too bad.
But anyway, as long as you're happy. Congrats!
09-14-2003, 08:20 PM
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Kewl,
Let me get this straight, you paid $32K for a car that has exactly 10 more HP than the TSX (but uses crappy turbo technology to make it and is not any faster) and has basically similar features (though I like my interior much better)? That's about $3K over what I paid for my TSX. And you didn't get navigation? And SAAB's are not generally known for their reliability (hell, my wife knows that). And the 9-3 is not even better looking. But then you did save $4K off the list price though...so I guess that makes you a genius, Mr. Kewl. Heh, heh.
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Let me get this straight, you paid $32K for a car that has exactly 10 more HP than the TSX (but uses crappy turbo technology to make it and is not any faster) and has basically similar features (though I like my interior much better)? That's about $3K over what I paid for my TSX. And you didn't get navigation? And SAAB's are not generally known for their reliability (hell, my wife knows that). And the 9-3 is not even better looking. But then you did save $4K off the list price though...so I guess that makes you a genius, Mr. Kewl. Heh, heh.
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09-14-2003, 09:27 PM
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TSX (but uses crappy turbo technology to make it and is not any faster)
Navigation? Don't need it. I could have gotten it on my CL-S and didn't feel it was worth the expense. Point mute.
Reliability? Yes, I concede that Saab has not been AS reliable as the Honda/Acura segment of cars, but that in no way means Saab is terrible. Even when one of your own (hey Larchmont) presented various facts of reliability, Saab always has done better than many perceive. Plus, if you haven't noticed, Acura and Honda have slipped lately while Saab has been on the upswing. Lexus/Toyota owners look at Honda the same way you look at Saab. Same difference.
And the 9-3 is not even better looking. But then you did save $4K off the list price though...so I guess that makes you a genius, Mr. Kewl. Heh, heh.
As I have said probably a 1000x on this board to individuals like you, the 9-3 offered the best combination of performance, features, comfort, sportiness, and unique looks that I could find. Coming from a feature laden/and powerful car like the CL-S I didn't want to spend around 30K for a car that has "less" than what I have. The 9-3 offered "more" and for a price I couldn't argue with. Face it, many of the arguements you try to present here are the same that Accord/Toyota/Mazda owners present in light of comparing the TSX to their cars.
Hey, enjoy your car, I know I will enjoy mine.
09-15-2003, 12:43 AM
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Re: Another Soon-to-be TSX Driver
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They had 6 TSX's on the lot: 3 meteor silver and 3 satin silver. I want to see one in carbon grey, nighthawk black or arctic blue before I order mine (automatic, navi). They have several due in late Sept.
They had 6 TSX's on the lot: 3 meteor silver and 3 satin silver. I want to see one in carbon grey, nighthawk black or arctic blue before I order mine (automatic, navi). They have several due in late Sept.
Well, since my 2002 TL is blue, I got the CG for the TSX, and it's beautiful-----
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Hey, CWSea, you did good. You thought it through, you picked your car, you got it fast, and you were happy with the transaction.
Except, Kewl has a different idea.
I don't understand Kewl. Most of the time IMO he has pretty good ideas, but now and then he deteriorates into nonsense -- and the really weird part is that even though he's smart enough to know better, he keeps repeating the same nonsense.
Like the stuff about "MSRP." Kewl hates my pointing this out, but what can I tell you, he keeps asking for it. It seems like he's phobic or allergic to "MSRP." It doesn't matter whether or not a car is WORTH what you pay for it, all that matters is if it's less than MSRP.
If they raised MSRP on the TSX a couple of thousand dollars and Kewl could get $1000 off that, THEN he'd buy it. He denies that he thinks like that, but it's obvious that he does.
Except, Kewl has a different idea.
I don't understand Kewl. Most of the time IMO he has pretty good ideas, but now and then he deteriorates into nonsense -- and the really weird part is that even though he's smart enough to know better, he keeps repeating the same nonsense.
Like the stuff about "MSRP." Kewl hates my pointing this out, but what can I tell you, he keeps asking for it. It seems like he's phobic or allergic to "MSRP." It doesn't matter whether or not a car is WORTH what you pay for it, all that matters is if it's less than MSRP.
If they raised MSRP on the TSX a couple of thousand dollars and Kewl could get $1000 off that, THEN he'd buy it. He denies that he thinks like that, but it's obvious that he does.
09-15-2003, 08:13 AM
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Originally posted by tsx-mdxman
Kewl,
Let me get this straight, you paid $32K for a car that has exactly 10 more HP than the TSX (but uses crappy turbo technology to make it
Kewl,
Let me get this straight, you paid $32K for a car that has exactly 10 more HP than the TSX (but uses crappy turbo technology to make it
09-15-2003, 12:53 PM
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lovin it!
Originally posted by larchmont
Hey, CWSea, you did good. You thought it through, you picked your car, you got it fast, and you were happy with the transaction.
Hey, CWSea, you did good. You thought it through, you picked your car, you got it fast, and you were happy with the transaction.
Wow, there have been a lot of posts on this since I was last on. I've been too busy playing with my new toy to check back on here!
Man, my car gets lots of looks! I was out in it with friends all day yesterday. The first time I parked it, I went into a store. When I came out, there was a young couple just staring at it...looking inside and all around it.
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In the past few weeks I've been seeing more TSX's. Last weekend on Central Expressway and Rengstorff I saw an SSM. Today at lunch time, I saw a Nighthawk Black (probably the same as previously reported black TSX near work). An Asian male with Harry Potter eyeglasses was driving this one. And, also at lunchtiome today on 101 South near Marsh Road I saw an SSM zip by. No plates, but the dealer frame indicated Southcoast Acura. Methinks he's about 400 miles from the dealer and having a good time, eh?
I'm just hours away from taking delivery, maybe 4-6 hours.
I'm just hours away from taking delivery, maybe 4-6 hours.
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