Americans would you buy your TSX if it cost you $6000 USD more

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Old 01-16-2006, 05:35 PM
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well, i have a couple of mods left including the reflash, but i think i'll have spent about 5-6k on the car when it's all done.

now, 34k for a stock tsx i would not do. however, this a moot point for me since i never had that kind of scratch to begin with; i would've got the accord if i was going for something < 30k.
Old 01-16-2006, 05:41 PM
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If I'm not mistaken, I'm pretty sure that taxes and tariffs and duties are inflating the price of the TSX, as it's NOT subject to NAFTA (being made in Japan).

I might be wrong but it's something to consider.
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Originally Posted by Beoshingus
US MSRP = $29,890US for a difference of $3,534 USD in real value.


You buy a Big Mac combo there and it works out to about $9US.

3600, i still probably would not get the TSX.

big mac combo for $9! sounds like ny. i was at mcdonald's today and the double cheeseburger meal was $5.10! i hate nyc prices.
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Well, the real question becomes, "why would anybody want to live in Canada?"

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Originally Posted by Beoshingus
Well, the real question becomes, "why would anybody want to live in Canada?"

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Old 01-16-2006, 08:01 PM
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nope. the price of the G35 coupe was what made me go for the TSX.

So for $6000 more, i'd jumpship to Infiniti...
Old 01-16-2006, 08:18 PM
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yah... we CDNs are getting hosed. We've always been. Like Excited, I just about went with the TL but I'm not ready for a family car plus the TL won't fit in my garage :-)

Next time, when the new revised model comes out, a few of us should get together and just go down south and bring our babies back!
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Originally Posted by helraiser
yah... we CDNs are getting hosed. We've always been. Like Excited, I just about went with the TL but I'm not ready for a family car plus the TL won't fit in my garage :-)

Next time, when the new revised model comes out, a few of us should get together and just go down south and bring our babies back!
We have bigger garages here in the States as well...
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Originally Posted by Beoshingus
We have bigger garages here in the States as well...

bigger penises too right?

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Old 01-16-2006, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Beoshingus
We have bigger garages here in the States as well...
Bigger everything, because you guys are all fat.
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I would be in a G35 if I had the extra $6000 allotted to my car budget.
Old 01-17-2006, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Beoshingus
That has more to do with exchange rate than anything else.

MSRP for TSX with Navi is $38,700CDN = $33,424US as of today.

US MSRP = $29,890US for a difference of $3,534 USD in real value. Not six grand.

Remember, the US dollar has been weak lately. It's possible that the price was at parity at one point and the exchange rates have deviated. Also, it's very likely that Canada has tariffs, levies, and fees built into that price.

You want to see a bad example, go to England, where items that cost $10 here will cost £10 there, or the equivalent of $17.66US. You buy a Big Mac combo there and it works out to about $9US.
Actually I did take all of the exchange factors into account and I used the AT navi as the model for the comparison. The Cdn MSRP for an AT navi is $41,700 or $35,862 USD. The US AT navi TSX is $29,890. That's pretty close to $6,000 USD.

You also do a lot of Canada bashing, a lot based on ignorance. I let a number of them slide with no response, for the civility of the forum. Trust me you live in a glass house. Don't throw stones.



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Originally Posted by excited
Actually I did take all of the exchange factors into account and I used the AT navi as the model for the comparison. The Cdn MSRP for an AT navi is $41,700 or $35,862 USD. The US AT navi TSX is $29,890. That's pretty close to $6,000 USD.

You also do a lot of Canada bashing, a lot based on ignorance. I let a number of them slide with no response for the civility of the forum. Trust me you live in a glass house. Don't throw stones.



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you mean america is not perfrect??????!!!!!!!! :shakehead
Old 01-17-2006, 10:06 PM
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I would probably still bought it, I have been driving Hondas and Acuras ever since I got my driver's license, and I guess I am afraid of change. When I ordered the TSX, I test drove the TL, RL as well as the TSX. While I liked the RL most, I could not justify spending 50k on a car, and I liked the TSX over the TL.
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i think with the cdn$ as high as it is against the us$, Canadians do pay a premium now . In 2003 when I purchased my TSX, the exchange was about 0.7c$ to the usd making $28000us about $40000 cdn, so the MSRP of $34900 was more than fair for the tsx Today, at the cdn dollar ~0.87 to the us dollar, $28000 us becomes $32200 cdn and MSRP starts at $35900.

Oh btw, the MSRP of a TL starts at 42k and a 330i starts at 48k.
Old 01-17-2006, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by calgary_tsx
i think with the cdn$ as high as it is against the us$, Canadians do pay a premium now . In 2003 when I purchased my TSX, the exchange was about 0.7c$ to the usd making $28000us about $40000 cdn, so the MSRP of $34900 was more than fair for the tsx Today, at the cdn dollar ~0.87 to the us dollar, $28000 us becomes $32200 cdn and MSRP starts at $35900.

Oh btw, the MSRP of a TL starts at 42k and a 330i starts at 48k.

no question, Acura is screwing Canadians. So is lexus - they decontented the IS and raised the price. Jerkwads.

When the rdx comes out, I am going to stroll acros sthe border, buy my wife one and head back. Doll is going to 0.90 on the US yet Acura prices it like it was 0.7. Plus no duty on the rdx since it will be US made.
Old 01-18-2006, 01:06 AM
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no, I would have looked at a 1 or 2 year old 330Ci for that price range.
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Originally Posted by excited
Actually I did take all of the exchange factors into account and I used the AT navi as the model for the comparison. The Cdn MSRP for an AT navi is $41,700 or $35,862 USD. The US AT navi TSX is $29,890. That's pretty close to $6,000 USD.

You also do a lot of Canada bashing, a lot based on ignorance. I let a number of them slide with no response, for the civility of the forum. Trust me you live in a glass house. Don't throw stones.



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Actually, you included destination in the Canadian price you quoted, but not in the American price you quoted. You're not comparing apples to oranges. My prices were based on base MSRP for each country. You're wrong; not me.

As for Canada bashing, I've certainly poked fun at your country. But tell me what I said that was wrong? Canada IS a socialist country. You DO have excessive taxes and fees. Your government DOES suppress free speech. (I'll provide links to evidence for all of this if you need me to, but as a Canadian you should already know about it.) Considering all the vitriolic hatred that certain members of your government have spouted against America in the last few years, I think my response is very mild and lighthearted in comparison. Canada has made France their role model instead of America. Fine; your decision, but I still have the right to point out that I think it's a bad one.

And since this is a TSX message board and not a political blog, I'll leave it at that.
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My apologies - I based the price I listed off of the Canadian TSX Navi MANUAL. Didn't know you paid more for AT there.
Old 01-18-2006, 09:59 AM
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Before really blaming Honda or Toyota or whatsoever on pricing different between Canada & US, please notice Canadian dollar raise from 0.6 USD to 0.85 USD in less than 2yr. All the offshore manufacturer need to pre-plan all the pricing base on the local market cpi and then hedge the currency in years ahead of the product roll out to consumer. So they won't change their pricing plan base on the fluctation of the currencv. So what about if CND drop fast against USD again! And they also need to consider their used cars value too.
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Thank God this is a TSX forum, because if it was about country bashing ppl everywhere can go for days, maybe even weeks on bashing the U.S.and.A

...Anyhow, i think thats an excellent idea, for the RDX. maybe we can go together buy the car and drive back
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I'm your fellow canuck but living in the US now.

I feel your pain, man, when I was living in Toronto and comparing the prices between Can and US.

The solution to your problem - try to get a job in the US and you can forget about paying the extra $6K.
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i would gladly pay the extra 6k than ...ahhh hek!

hey maaa, look there goes a TSX!!!!
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Originally Posted by excited
The difference in the Honda Civic coupe between the US and Canada is only a little over $400 USD. Their is definately a premium paid to get an Acura here.

(I was trying to understand how many 17, 16 and even 15 year old gentlemen in the States could afford (their parents could afford) a vehicle that is a little out of reach of many Cdn buyers. It is definately a more affordable vehicle in the US)



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The average income in Canadia is considerably lower than in the U.S., especially after taxes. As in Europe, people tend to buy one size class down from what they'd buy in the U.S. That's why Canada gets an Acura version of the Civic, to make the brand viable there.

I see that the price there is 37,330 CAN. Not long ago the exchange rate was about 65 cents/dollar. At that time you were paying less than in the U.S. Even at today's rate you're paying about 31,700 USD. So where's the extra $6,000?
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Originally Posted by ianS
Before really blaming Honda or Toyota or whatsoever on pricing different between Canada & US, please notice Canadian dollar raise from 0.6 USD to 0.85 USD in less than 2yr. All the offshore manufacturer need to pre-plan all the pricing base on the local market cpi and then hedge the currency in years ahead of the product roll out to consumer. So they won't change their pricing plan base on the fluctation of the currencv. So what about if CND drop fast against USD again! And they also need to consider their used cars value too.
Exactly.
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i heard somewhere (more specifically wrt to GM) that if a vehicle is purchased in us and driven into canada, the warranty is no longer valid and vice versa. hope im wrong
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Originally Posted by calgary_tsx
i heard somewhere (more specifically wrt to GM) that if a vehicle is purchased in us and driven into canada, the warranty is no longer valid and vice versa. hope im wrong
if it's kept there permanently? or just driving in at all?

that makes zero sense. i know people who live in canada and work in buffalo....so they never have a warrant on a car they own? that's not even logical
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Originally Posted by bradykp
if it's kept there permanently? or just driving in at all?

that makes zero sense. i know people who live in canada and work in buffalo....so they never have a warrant on a car they own? that's not even logical
When you get your car serviced in the country other than the one you bought it in, they take you address etc. If they see you are living in country A and getting the car serviced in country A, but bought it in country B, you might be in trouble with warrenty (you would have to get warrenty work done in B). I live in Canada, bought my TSX in Canada, but get its warrenty work done in the USA because the dealer is much closer. No problems doing this. Then again, if he car is a very reliable one, warrrenty issues should be irrelevant. For example, when I buy my wife's RDX in the states, I will likely have to get warrenty work done there sine my address is Canadian - Acura Canada might not do the work under warrenty.
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Originally Posted by catmando
The solution to your problem - try to get a job in the US and you can forget about paying the extra $6K.
well you guys ain't Mexicans so isn't there an immigration issue ?
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Originally Posted by zircon
no question, Acura is screwing Canadians. So is lexus - they decontented the IS and raised the price. Jerkwads.

When the rdx comes out, I am going to stroll acros sthe border, buy my wife one and head back. Doll is going to 0.90 on the US yet Acura prices it like it was 0.7. Plus no duty on the rdx since it will be US made.
Strange, I didn't hear any Canadians complaining when everything there was much cheaper than in the U.S.
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No chance would i think the tsx was a good buy for 6K more
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Excited, if TSX cost $6,000 more at U.S., it will be as expensive, if not more, as the TL. I will still prefer TSX than TL, but I don't want to be the sucker who got the 4 banger when I could have gotten a V6 from the same car family for as much money. In another word, I would not have gotten an Acura if that is the case.

I believe ALL of the cars at Canada are more expensive than the cars in U.S.. I thought it was due to the importing tax.
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No way. I would have gotten a BMW or Lexus.
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for 6000 more i'd be driving the TL my friend
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Originally Posted by mkaresh
Strange, I didn't hear any Canadians complaining when everything there was much cheaper than in the U.S.
So what do you suggest?????


If they wish to take less money in Canada because the standard of living is lower, that is their perogative. Automakers often did lower prices in Canada, but also decontented their cars wrt the USA. If, on the other hand, they want Canadians to pay well beyond even moderately fair exchange rates, they are nuts. We live in an internet world my friend, and it is human nature to like bargains and despise getting ripped off. If people can save 6k, go for it, assuming you don't mind gong over to the states for warrenty work.
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When the Canadian dollar was weak, most cars were much less expensive in Canada. I know, because I live in Detroit and looked into buying a car in Canada to save a few grand. Decided it wasn't worth it because of instruments, required paperwork, inconvenience of going back to Canada for warranty work, and later inconvenience of selling the car.

The price there isn't higher because Acura raised prices in Canadian dollars, but because it didn't raise them in American dollars as the dollar fell. If you only paid attention to Canadian prices then the price would seem much the same as it did. Since earning also remain about the same...

This is precisely why auto makers buy currency futures and don't react quickly to exchange rate moves in either direction. Overall, people are happiest with stable prices. You might be unhappy now, but you should have been plenty happy a few years ago. Over time it all evens out. The current prices are not out of line given how much the US dollar has weakened against the Canadian dollar.

If you want to feel better, compare the price in Canada with that in Japan and/or Europe. Outside North America most people pay far higher prices.

The way they take less money in Canada is by selling smaller vehicles with fewer features.

In general, I suggest a broader perspective.
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