Timing Belt Change
Timing Belt Change
When do timing belt on our cars usually go out? I've got 100,000 km on my car......about 160,000 miles? I know I need a new one ( and tensioner) but when do yawl change timing belt?
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Originally Posted by TLBaller
im confused as to how many thousand miles you have but if you're near 100 thousand, change all the belts. you will notice the difference, bee lee dat!
I Detail at the local Acura Dealership in my town, and he said at about 100,000 miles you should do it...........110,000 miles is pushing it big time.............he also offered to do it for cheap. which is good cuz i have 96,000, and plan on having my car when it hits 105,000 miles.
Originally Posted by KaMLuNg
the manuals actually suggest changing at 105k miles.. i just broke 100k and am not looking forward to the expense just yet..
Also, while you are there, yank your alternator and check brush length. Mine were just fine, worn very little, but getting it out while you are there is really easy.
i will be the first person to tear my car apart... but ask me to do a timing belt and forget it...i will pay the labor for a piece of mind... and besides i have a friend who is a mechanic and will only charge me 100 bucks to do it....
Originally Posted by meazz1
Hotties!!! are there that many in Japan?
I'll do the T-Belt/ Tensioner change ASAP but I finally went to a Honda Dealer and they'll do the ATF Change and all for @ $80.00 total. Thanks for the infos....I was always skeptical about going to the dealers....AND NOW I KNOW....THE REST OF THE STORY!
Dude, there are more than "THAT MANY" ! They are everywhere ! And they dig Foreigners...even if you are married, lots of them still want some action. Its not that they are "easy, slut-bitches" but thats the way it is here. Sex is sorta like a sport here. It only means FUN. Wanna come over?
Like a sport ha?Id love to checkout Japan someday. From the movies Ive seen, anime,culture, magazine,games, shows,technologies, its all cool. The first place Id have to go see is mount Akina. I heard its a real place, is it? Them Hokkaido,Kyoto, and finally Tokyo. The problem is I dont speak Japanese so its going to be kind of hard.
Anyway, anyone changed their own timing belt? Perhaps a walkthrough would be nice.
Originally Posted by Ysidro
LOL!
Like a sport ha?
Id love to checkout Japan someday. From the movies Ive seen, anime,culture, magazine,games, shows,technologies, its all cool. The first place Id have to go see is mount Akina. I heard its a real place, is it? Them Hokkaido,Kyoto, and finally Tokyo. The problem is I dont speak Japanese so its going to be kind of hard.
Anyway, anyone changed their own timing belt? Perhaps a walkthrough would be nice.
Like a sport ha?Id love to checkout Japan someday. From the movies Ive seen, anime,culture, magazine,games, shows,technologies, its all cool. The first place Id have to go see is mount Akina. I heard its a real place, is it? Them Hokkaido,Kyoto, and finally Tokyo. The problem is I dont speak Japanese so its going to be kind of hard.
Anyway, anyone changed their own timing belt? Perhaps a walkthrough would be nice.
Originally Posted by veo
i got 140k miles w/origional timing belt. i intend to NEVER change the belt and see how long it lasts. i know, it's a gamble, but i'm taking the risk.
Originally Posted by veo
i got 140k miles w/origional timing belt. i intend to NEVER change the belt and see how long it lasts. i know, it's a gamble, but i'm taking the risk.
However, if and when that belt goes, it'll be time you put on some running shoes to get where you need to be, because you'll be out of an engine.
Originally Posted by veo
i got 140k miles w/origional timing belt. i intend to NEVER change the belt and see how long it lasts. i know, it's a gamble, but i'm taking the risk.
I don't need a new timing belt!!!! I just spray WD-40 on it every week, and it runs just fine. I'll never replace it if i keep doing this every week! No need to! WD-40 fixes everything!
and, to save money, whenever I have some extra Vodka or Absynth lying around, i just pour it in. it's 80 proof, so it'll do the same as 91 octane premium, right??????
and, to save money, whenever I have some extra Vodka or Absynth lying around, i just pour it in. it's 80 proof, so it'll do the same as 91 octane premium, right??????
Originally Posted by 98_2.5_TL
I don't need a new timing belt!!!! I just spray WD-40 on it every week, and it runs just fine. I'll never replace it if i keep doing this every week! No need to! WD-40 fixes everything!
and, to save money, whenever I have some extra Vodka or Absynth lying around, i just pour it in. it's 80 proof, so it'll do the same as 91 octane premium, right??????
and, to save money, whenever I have some extra Vodka or Absynth lying around, i just pour it in. it's 80 proof, so it'll do the same as 91 octane premium, right??????
:gheywave:
Originally Posted by veo
i like the WD-40 idea. do u just spray it directly on the belt?
I was definitely joking, haha.
I guess my humor is a little rusty.
I have 98 thousand miles on my TL, and plan on changing the timing belt this summer.
It's defnitely a good idea to change it right at 100k, cuz if it breaks, you're screwed.
i still think wd-40's a good idea. i saw someone do that in the past. with the engine on and the belt going it was sprayed. there are plenty of cars with over 200k that have never had timing belt replaced. i'm at 140k and unless i see damage to the belt i'm not touching it.
Both 2.5L and 3.2L engines are interference engines. Problem w/ inspecting the belt is you can't easily inspect the lugs which transmit load to turn the camshaft sprocket and water pump. A defect could progress from benign to failure very quickly once a lug is missing or the reinforcement is broken. Realistically, how often would you inspect the timing belt? The valve cover has to be removed to remove the upper timing belt cover and enable an inspection.
My brother has run two cars till the belts failed. He was lucky, the 2L, 86 Honda somehow was not damaged when belt failed near 200K miles. He ran a 4-cyl Camry until the belt failed at somewhat < 200K. The Toyota 4-cyl is non-interference.
I suspect (but don't know) the timing belt interval is determined is by running enough belts to failure to allow calculation of a 95% confidence level based standard deviation of the failure data. A confidence level of 95% is 2-std deviations below the mean. This would suggest that failure is possible even below the 105K change interval. You might extend the confidence level to 99% at 3-std deviations, but that might set the change interval too low. Naturally, their approach to determining the belt change interval and data for this calculation is not public knowledge. Wikipedia has a very nice explanation of std. deviation and confidence level calculations for the terminally inquisitive at the following link.
Wikipedia Standard Deviation Explanation
Do let us know how you make out when the belt fails.
regards
My brother has run two cars till the belts failed. He was lucky, the 2L, 86 Honda somehow was not damaged when belt failed near 200K miles. He ran a 4-cyl Camry until the belt failed at somewhat < 200K. The Toyota 4-cyl is non-interference.
I suspect (but don't know) the timing belt interval is determined is by running enough belts to failure to allow calculation of a 95% confidence level based standard deviation of the failure data. A confidence level of 95% is 2-std deviations below the mean. This would suggest that failure is possible even below the 105K change interval. You might extend the confidence level to 99% at 3-std deviations, but that might set the change interval too low. Naturally, their approach to determining the belt change interval and data for this calculation is not public knowledge. Wikipedia has a very nice explanation of std. deviation and confidence level calculations for the terminally inquisitive at the following link.
Wikipedia Standard Deviation Explanation
Do let us know how you make out when the belt fails.
regards
[QUOTE=TexasHonda]Both 2.5L and 3.2L engines are interference engines. Problem w/ inspecting the belt is you can't easily inspect the lugs which transmit load to turn the camshaft sprocket and water pump. A defect could progress from benign to failure very quickly once a lug is missing or the reinforcement is broken. Realistically, how often would you inspect the timing belt? The valve cover has to be removed to remove the upper timing belt cover and enable an inspection.
My brother has run two cars till the belts failed. He was lucky, the 2L, 86 Honda somehow was not damaged when belt failed near 200K miles. He ran a 4-cyl Camry until the belt failed at somewhat < 200K. The Toyota 4-cyl is non-interference.
I suspect (but don't know) the timing belt interval is determined is by running enough belts to failure to allow calculation of a 95% confidence level based standard deviation of the failure data. A confidence level of 95% is 2-std deviations below the mean. This would suggest that failure is possible even below the 105K change interval. You might extend the confidence level to 99% at 3-std deviations, but that might set the change interval too low. Naturally, their approach to determining the belt change interval and data for this calculation is not public knowledge. Wikipedia has a very nice explanation of std. deviation and confidence level calculations for the terminally inquisitive at the following link.
....can u say that again, in English. j/k, thanks for the explanation
My brother has run two cars till the belts failed. He was lucky, the 2L, 86 Honda somehow was not damaged when belt failed near 200K miles. He ran a 4-cyl Camry until the belt failed at somewhat < 200K. The Toyota 4-cyl is non-interference.
I suspect (but don't know) the timing belt interval is determined is by running enough belts to failure to allow calculation of a 95% confidence level based standard deviation of the failure data. A confidence level of 95% is 2-std deviations below the mean. This would suggest that failure is possible even below the 105K change interval. You might extend the confidence level to 99% at 3-std deviations, but that might set the change interval too low. Naturally, their approach to determining the belt change interval and data for this calculation is not public knowledge. Wikipedia has a very nice explanation of std. deviation and confidence level calculations for the terminally inquisitive at the following link.
....can u say that again, in English. j/k, thanks for the explanation
Originally Posted by TexasHonda
Both 2.5L and 3.2L engines are interference engines. Problem w/ inspecting the belt is you can't easily inspect the lugs which transmit load to turn the camshaft sprocket and water pump. A defect could progress from benign to failure very quickly once a lug is missing or the reinforcement is broken. Realistically, how often would you inspect the timing belt? The valve cover has to be removed to remove the upper timing belt cover and enable an inspection.
My brother has run two cars till the belts failed. He was lucky, the 2L, 86 Honda somehow was not damaged when belt failed near 200K miles. He ran a 4-cyl Camry until the belt failed at somewhat < 200K. The Toyota 4-cyl is non-interference.
I suspect (but don't know) the timing belt interval is determined is by running enough belts to failure to allow calculation of a 95% confidence level based standard deviation of the failure data. A confidence level of 95% is 2-std deviations below the mean. This would suggest that failure is possible even below the 105K change interval. You might extend the confidence level to 99% at 3-std deviations, but that might set the change interval too low. Naturally, their approach to determining the belt change interval and data for this calculation is not public knowledge. Wikipedia has a very nice explanation of std. deviation and confidence level calculations for the terminally inquisitive at the following link.
Wikipedia Standard Deviation Explanation
Do let us know how you make out when the belt fails.
regards
My brother has run two cars till the belts failed. He was lucky, the 2L, 86 Honda somehow was not damaged when belt failed near 200K miles. He ran a 4-cyl Camry until the belt failed at somewhat < 200K. The Toyota 4-cyl is non-interference.
I suspect (but don't know) the timing belt interval is determined is by running enough belts to failure to allow calculation of a 95% confidence level based standard deviation of the failure data. A confidence level of 95% is 2-std deviations below the mean. This would suggest that failure is possible even below the 105K change interval. You might extend the confidence level to 99% at 3-std deviations, but that might set the change interval too low. Naturally, their approach to determining the belt change interval and data for this calculation is not public knowledge. Wikipedia has a very nice explanation of std. deviation and confidence level calculations for the terminally inquisitive at the following link.
Wikipedia Standard Deviation Explanation
Do let us know how you make out when the belt fails.
regards





