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Old 03-19-2002 | 12:55 PM
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Angry What is the deal with my rims!!!!

I have found over 7 sets of wheels that I have wanted for my TL, and none will fit. The offset isn't right. WTF is going on. I am working with this guy at a discount tire place, and he is looking into them for me as I find more wheels. I gave him a list of ones I wanted, and called me back saying none would fit properly. This really making me mad, and now I am like screw wheels. On my accord it was easy, I picked some out and they put them on. Now my ? to you guys is, did you have a tuff time finding your wheels? He says I need a +42 offset. He said our cars are complicated to put wheels on.
Old 03-19-2002 | 01:36 PM
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42 offset? Not for 18's unless they're 7" wide or less. If you get a 18x7.5 wheel, you need at LEAST a 45 offset or higher. I have a 45 offset with 18x7.5's and I cant imagine how bad a 42 offset would rub. Whats your price range? Maybe I can give you a few ideas.
Old 03-19-2002 | 01:45 PM
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I'm willing to spend $1500-$2500 on 18's. Thanks for any help you 96TL or anybody else can do. I do want chrome too.
Old 03-19-2002 | 03:07 PM
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yeah, i totally understand mike. its a b*tch to find wheels for our car...at least for my car it is because i have a 2.5 (4 lug). there aren't that many choices to choose from with 18" chromed 4 lug.
Old 03-19-2002 | 03:56 PM
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Sometimes people dont really know what they are talking about. I have 18X8 with +42 offset on my 962.5TL and they fit perfectly, I didnt even have to roll my fenders. IMO, just get the rims you like as far as they are 8.0 or less(width) and +40 or more offset, when you put them on, they will fit, trust me on this. I was told that 18X8 will never fit my TL, but I went on and got 18X8 and they fit and I even lowered the car with no problem at all.
Old 03-19-2002 | 04:55 PM
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So would a 18x7.5 work? This guy at the place is like your wheels will stick out. Shi t this sucks. Confused too.
Old 03-19-2002 | 05:13 PM
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Re: wheels

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So would a 18x7.5 work? This guy at the place is like your wheels will stick out. Shi t this sucks. Confused too.
They will not stick out depending on what the offset is.
Old 03-19-2002 | 05:49 PM
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Sometimes people dont really know what they are talking about. I have 18X8 with +42 offset on my 962.5TL and they fit perfectly, I didnt even have to roll my fenders. IMO, just get the rims you like as far as they are 8.0 or less(width) and +40 or more offset, when you put them on, they will fit, trust me on this. I was told that 18X8 will never fit my TL, but I went on and got 18X8 and they fit and I even lowered the car with no problem at all.
You must be running rubber bands on those wheels instead of tires because like I said, I have 18x7.5's with a 45 offset, 225/40 tires, not dropped, and I rub in the rear with 2 people in the back. I'm not just taking a wild guess and saying they wont fit. The ONLY possible thing could be that 2.5's have different hubs than 3.2's and they might work with a lower offset.
Old 03-19-2002 | 08:51 PM
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Old 03-19-2002 | 08:54 PM
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HotTL96, whats on your mirrors? Blinkers?
Old 03-19-2002 | 09:21 PM
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You must be running rubber bands on those wheels instead of tires because like I said, I have 18x7.5's with a 45 offset, 225/40 tires, not dropped, and I rub in the rear with 2 people in the back. I'm not just taking a wild guess and saying they wont fit. The ONLY possible thing could be that 2.5's have different hubs than 3.2's and they might work with a lower offset.
I am not taking a wild guess either, it will fit, I have TOYO PROXIES T1-S tires(one of the best in the market) 225/40/18 with a +42 offste and 18X8, maybe 3.2's are different from 2.5's cause I have mine dropped about 2-3 inches and it does not rub( I have stiff suspensions theoug(Koni yellows)). anyone with a 2.5 that has had a problrem with rims rubbing please post.
Old 03-19-2002 | 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by kk939

I am not taking a wild guess either, it will fit, I have TOYO PROXIES T1-S tires(one of the best in the market) 225/40/18 with a +42 offste and 18X8, maybe 3.2's are different from 2.5's cause I have mine dropped about 2-3 inches and it does not rub( I have stiff suspensions theoug(Koni yellows)). anyone with a 2.5 that has had a problrem with rims rubbing please post.
Yeah then 3.2's and 2.5's must definitely be different in that way. The KONIs help stop rubbing as well. Did you get the shocks before the wheels? Maybe with stock shocks it does rub.
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Ya well the guy always asks me if if mine is a 2.5 or 3.2, so I think there is a difference. Thanks for the info guys, and I will check some of those tire places, a couple of those I have seen, but will check them.
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kk939: so you have a 2.5?? you say 18x8's fit? i haven't dropped my car yet either so.. WOW, now i have hopes once again!!
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Old 03-19-2002 | 10:37 PM
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Re: rims

Originally posted by Mike89Acord96TL
Ya well the guy always asks me if if mine is a 2.5 or 3.2, so I think there is a difference. Thanks for the info guys, and I will check some of those tire places, a couple of those I have seen, but will check them.
Well that doesnt really confirm the offset difference. He could just be asking you that because they have different lug patterns.
Old 03-19-2002 | 10:49 PM
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Man the 18x8 with a +42 or +43 will definetely fit. Like I told you before I had the 3-piece C2 in 18x8 w/ like a +42 offset. I ran 215/35/18 w/ a 3.25" drop and still had no rub. (Tires were very small though). Then I raised it up to a 2.25" drop and got 225/40/18 and still had no rub. My wheels now are 19x7.5 w/ +43 and 225/35/19. BUT to me I liked the 8" w/ +42 offset better. It fills out to the fender better.
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Here is a couple of side pics... There not the best but I guess they work.
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I have 18x7.5 with +42 offsett. Lowered with Eibachs and it rubbed a little until I had the fenders rolled. Now, now problems what so ever. Even with two people in the back I have to go over a large bump to make it rub.

neokinetiks_00, your car is very very nice! I wish I could lower mine like that.:wow:

Actually, I probably could, I just don't want to right now. The roads blow where I live
Old 03-20-2002 | 12:19 AM
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Well I have looked and 4 bolt hub wheels are out there. I have even found some in 19". The offset issue is still a question for me because I have read so many different stories about which is the best? <42MM or 45MM>
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Originally posted by neokinetiks_00
BUT to me I liked the 8" w/ +42 offset better. It fills out to the fender better.
I think your right about that but your wheels look fine. Are thos 19s in the pictures. they look like 18s.
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neokinetiks_00, your car is very very nice! I wish I could lower mine like that.:wow:

Actually, I probably could, I just don't want to right now. The roads blow where I live
I would like to raise mine up a little. Like to a 1.75 drop or something. Just so it would sit alittle higher. That's all you need is a moderate drop, so you dont have to worry about camber. OH YEAH. In those pics I didnt have a camber kit yet. See the front wheel tilt. Here is a newer pic: With the 19x7.5 M5 Harts.
Old 03-20-2002 | 12:33 AM
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Hopefully I will find some. I have found over 10 rims I really liked, and all were wrong offset. I will keep looking.
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Well I have looked and 4 bolt hub wheels are out there. I have even found some in 19". The offset issue is still a question for me because I have read so many different stories about which is the best? <42MM or 45MM>
I really think it depends on the wheels. I think some brands are different. Just like you could get the same sneaker in the same size in Nike and Addidas but they there gonna fit different. 42mm on some wheels will be a little bit different on other wheels. Just that little bit of difference can make your tires rub. Also, some wheels fit better on certain cars.
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Originally posted by neokinetiks_00

pic: With the 19x7.5 M5 Harts.
Those wheels are much better
Old 03-20-2002 | 12:37 AM
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Originally posted by DFUNK

Are thos 19s in the pictures. they look like 18s.
That's my old wheels in the first set of pics. 18x8 Racing Hart C2 3-piece.
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Originally posted by DFUNK


Those wheels are much better
Thanks....I feel like were playing message tag
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I need to get that front bumber lip...how much did that cost you and where did you get it

ur it

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Originally posted by DFUNK
I need to get that front bumber lip...how much did that cost you and where did you get it

ur it

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That's the old Mugen lip and Grill from Japan. They were all discontinued like within a month after I received mine. The lip ran for 600 and the grill 300.
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Originally posted by neokinetiks_00
Man the 18x8 with a +42 or +43 will definetely fit. Like I told you before I had the 3-piece C2 in 18x8 w/ like a +42 offset. I ran 215/35/18 w/ a 3.25" drop and still had no rub. (Tires were very small though). Then I raised it up to a 2.25" drop and got 225/40/18 and still had no rub. My wheels now are 19x7.5 w/ +43 and 225/35/19. BUT to me I liked the 8" w/ +42 offset better. It fills out to the fender better.
Thanks for backing me up
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Originally posted by kk939

Thanks for backing me up
No Problem:smokin: But like they said different wheels w/ different offset will make a difference if they rub or not.
Old 03-20-2002 | 09:26 PM
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I found some wheels made by Ferreti. So I am waiting to hear back to see if they fit. I will let you guys know.
Old 03-21-2002 | 02:55 AM
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For the record first gen offsets. UA-3 3.2L models +50MM UA-2 2.5L models +38MM explains most of the problems.
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OKAYYYYYYY now im lost!!!!!!! this is what DFUNK said: "18x7.5 with +42 offset rubs (not dropped) and NEOKINETICS said, "18x8 with+42 does not rub )dropped"....he also has19x7.5 and still no rub (dropped). whats going on? dfunk, you have a 3.2??? i know neo has a 2.5
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Aight...Heres the deal. I got 18x7.5 with +42 offset (Maybe +44) but almost positive they're +42. Before I got it dropped I had no rubbing. THEN I dropped w/ Eibachs and it rubbed often. So I GOT THE FENDERS ROLLED and...........PRESTO-------> EL Senor Rub.....Gone

Every once in a while it rubs on like a big bump. I would say get +45 OR UP. It's not that rolling your fenders is bad, but I would have rather not done it. Tho +42mm really fills up the wheel well.

Like I said before....you can get a +42mm in two different brands of wheels, slap the same tires on, and one might rub on your car and the other might not. Actually, that's just my opinion, but seems like commn sense. (Also, Thats what it seem likes w/ people on this board from 96s to 2002s. Some people have had rubbing problems with +45, and others no problem with +42. It's weird, but thats been my observation w/ a lot of members on this board. Do a search on offset.

In other words...go with a +45 if you want to play it safe.
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Originally posted by valuetl
For the record first gen offsets. UA-3 3.2L models +50MM UA-2 2.5L models +38MM explains most of the problems.
Aha! I knew that had to be it!
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excuse my stupidity again but.. what does that mean for the 2.5? he said, "ua-2 2.5 with +38mm"? so i HAVE to get rims with a +38 offset? no +42?
hey, i was just wondering...the bigger the number of the offset means the more space the wheel fender will be used up? is that what i need to look out for when buying new wheels?? im looking at 2 particular wheels that are 18x8 <~~~ that "8" is how much the wheel space will be used, isn't it? once again, sorry for my stupidity.
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excuse my stupidity again but.. what does that mean for the 2.5? he said, "ua-2 2.5 with +38mm"? so i HAVE to get rims with a +38 offset? no +42?
hey, i was just wondering...the bigger the number of the offset means the more space the wheel fender will be used up? is that what i need to look out for when buying new wheels?? im looking at 2 particular wheels that are 18x8 <~~~ that "8" is how much the wheel space will be used, isn't it? once again, sorry for my stupidity.
If you have a 2.5TL and you want an 18X8 rim, all you need is a +42 offset or more.
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Originally posted by kk939

If you have a 2.5TL and you want an 18X8 rim, all you need is a +42 offset or more.
THANK YOU! that is all i need to know. does anybody else disagree to what KK939 said? please share so i can be confused again


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