VulgarDisplayOfPower

I read the thread here on changing the filter and what-not...
and it says that the filter is seperate from the tranny?
so i'm confused, I could take out the filter and the tranny oil wouldn't spill out??

??

Ysidro

Basically,
you first order the filter and buy new tansmission fluid. Then drain the transmission fuid. Next remove the screws that holds the transmission filter.
Replace, screw it back, refill thrans fuid and done.
Too bad its raining outside, else I'll take pictures for ya.

meazz1

Make sure you use Honda Transmission fluid.

Ysidro

oh yes! forgot about that one. If you use any other brands not honda, when you drive, its going to feel funny.

c29842984

You're going to need a new transmission pan gasket and some high temperature silicone sealer as well.

nguyendminh

DO you have all the part numbers needed for this ?


transmission pan gasket P/N ?
transmission filter P/N ?


Thanks in advance. BTW I have a 96 3.2TL

TexasHonda

Check following link for OEM part no's.

Majestic Acura/Honda

You can purchase aftermarket parts from many locations.

A wide/long rectangular catch pan is handy to prevent spills once you remove the trans pan.

Note the location and length of the bolts retaining the trans pan and filter body. They frequently change and you need to get correct length bolts back in correct hole.

Are you having trans problems?

good luck

VulgarDisplayOfPower

This is actually funny that my post came up after so long,
when my gas starts to run low, my car jerks harder, and after I just fill up, the jerk is minimal.
I have no idea why this happens, any ideas?

c29842984

You should just get the gasket at the dealership. It's not very expensive. And you really don't need to buy a whole new filter. You just need a can of carb cleaner and spray the hell out of it and run a little bit of new fluid through it before reinstalling it.

nguyendminh

Cleaning the transmission screen appies to both the 2.5 and 3.2 right ?

c29842984

I believe so but I'm not 100% sure.

nguyendminh

Contrary to belief, the Acuras/Hondas do not have tranmission filter screen. According to http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlook...&TempYear=1996

The 95-98 3.2TL does have a transmission filter, WIX partnumber 58615. I've ordered one today and will you guys an update it once I received it. So I am sure the 91-95 Legend and 96-2004 RL has a transmision filter also, all bsed on same tranny/engine.

Transmission Filter 58615 V6 3.2L 3206cc 3.2L TL


Just a thought, maybe that is why the new acura/hondas have transmission problems because it does not have a filter but just a magnetic drain bolt. As with the older cars the drain bolt is still magnetic and also has a transmission filter, double the protection.

TexasHonda

The element I replaced in my 2.5TL was a pump inlet screen, not a paper filter. It's also shown in the Acura shop manual as in inlet screen.

regards

nguyendminh

Changed the transmission filter screen this weekend and the shifting is much smoother less jerk. Before I did this I had very rough shifting from 1 to 2 whtn the car is cold. After the filter changed shifting from 1 to 2 is much smoother and 2 to 3 and 3 to 4 is very smooth.


The gasket that came with it did not fit. The original is not the cork type it is some type of plastic. I called rock auto about the gasket not fitting corrrectly. They suggessted for me to just buy the gasket and they will re-imburse me. As it turns out nobody had the gasket but the acura dealer. However the dealer wanted $17 just for the gasket. So I called rock auto and told them the price they said they will not re-imburse me for the gasket because it is too much. I bought the whole filter and gasket for $17.76 + shipping $6.95. Rock auto said I can return it and get a refund. Well, I decided to keep the filter and bought the cork gasket material and use the original as a template and cut it to size and also bought high temp silicone gasket sealer.

I will post pictures of the gasket if someone can show me how.

vishnus11

i will be heading down to the dealer today to get those parts. Good u please give me the part numbers for the filter and gasket - i would greatly appreciate it. I believe this would be alL i would need apart from some high temp silicone gasket sealer and some Honda ATF right?

meazz1

how difficult it is to change the filter in a 2.5 TL ?

any one, any DIY or steps on how to do It?

KaMLuNg

iTrader: (5)

i just ordered mine from hondacuraworld... should be here next week...

nguyendminh

I did not order the original filter, I ordered one from wix at www.rockauto.com


As far as part number goes your dealer should give you the right part if you tell your make and model.

nguyendminh

25420-PY4-000 STRAINER (ATF) 1996 TL 47.83 38.26, do not have part number for gasket

nguyendminh

for th 3.2
What I did was uncsrew 16 bolts to drop atf pan, pull out the ATF strainer out new one, apply atf silicone on both side of gasket put pan back in and screw. Poured five quarts of ATF fluid. test drove and check for leaks.


What I should of done is drain ATF first then drop the pan. Need a big cath pan, once pan has dropped ATF goes all over the place.



Other then the gasket issue, it is not difficult to do. All in all I am satisfied with the results, I was going to do the the $150 tranny flush thing, but decide against it. Glad I did this instead.

esco786

iTrader: (2)

oh man, I think I badly need to do this, my jerks are very often, im at 167700 on 2.5tl, ive done the flushes but no help really, if somebody has pictures or diagrams of where the atf stainer is located in the car and the '16 bolts' to show us how to remove it and maybe create a new post it would be an apporopriate sticky! thanks for the posts you have made so far.

UnsanePyro

I think I'm gonna have to do this come spring too, jump on the bandwagon.

0196tl

For those with the 2.5 I would hope the following link would be helpful.

https://acurazine.com/forums/car-parts-sale-361/fs-liteglo-headlight-strobes-116236/

If it doesn't link from the posting just copy the link and paste it into your address bar.

Hey, UnsanePyro noticed you posted on this subject last summer. Isn't time to getherdone?

Ken1997TL

Adding this to my "to do list"

the1beebster

Iv'e got to jump on this wagon as well.

Cornflake

Had mine done by a friend who owns a tranny shop. He had to order the gasket from the dealer as well, there is no aftermarket one. You can use another brand of ATF as long as you add the aftermarket Friction modifier to it, tranny giys say this is better than Honda ATF anyways. (This is what I did, car runs great since!)

Adam_Schwartz

Wanted to add that my tranny was acting up BADLY and a clogged screen was the reason - the mechanic simply cleaned the original screen and the tranny was back to normal. Had I known that was the problem, then I'd have done the job myself. It sounds VERY simple and is good preventative maintenance.

binky

Talking about ATF change,most of the car shops I frequent,refuse to do ATF flushing and filling,saying it may cause the tranny to work improperly( hard shifting,no shifting jerking etc.) cause its never been changed.Actually its not only for my car but any automatic cars thats never had ATF done and is over 50,000km.All of them tell me to take it to the dealer to deal with it.As you know dealers charge an arm and a leg and both balls(in Japan),but if thats the only way I can go, then I have no choice.I know most of you do the DIY but I'm kinda scared.I got the car with 95000km on it...ATF never done.What should I do? I'm also afraid that the dealer might say "We're gonna have to overhaul the tranny".That will cost @$1000.00

0196tl

Binky,
Let me start by saying I'm not a mechanic. But first for some related and maybe somewhat dated advice check out the following link. At the site you may search for others.

http://www.cartalk.com/content/colum...August/10.html

So my advice also is get that fluid changed.
The only issue that seems universal is make sure you use genuine Honda ATF.

Relative to the cost. Many Acura dealers offer service coupons online for such routine items. You might try a search online of your local dearler web sites.
Also, often your local Honda dealer can certainly perform this service and might possibly also have service specials or just a lower shop rate.

Call and get a quote. The dealer near me has a shop rate of $100 per hr. and I don't know what they charge for a transmission fluid change but say it's $100 to $150. I get the job done for one tenth of what you suspect the transmission would cost to replace or repair and to boot they wash and vacuum the car.
Hope this helps, Steve

Adam_Schwartz

An ATF change and a flush are not the same thing. You should change ATF every 30,000 miles. Once the car is older, a flush is probably not a good idea. But you have about 60,000 miles on your car, so a flush would probably not hurt anything. As the ATF gets older, it loses its physical properties and the detergents in the ATF lose their "potency". I thought my tranny was fried a few months ago, but it was a clogged screen. Just get a fluid change and go from there. The longer you wait, the worse it can get.

Changing the ATF is VERY easy - it's not harder than an oil change.

And a tranny overhaul will run AT LEAST $2,000 - $1000 would be a very good price at a reputable mechanic. But I seriously doubt you are in need of an overhaul - you'd know it if you were.

binky

Thanx guys!

KaMLuNg

iTrader: (5)

the parts came in... for those of you who need part #s

Strainer 25420-PY4-000 $37.31

O-Ring 91308-PA9-003 $1.70

Oil Pan Gasket 21813-P5H-000 $9.45

total $52.41 shipped...

meazz1

Who did you buy the parts from?
any link?

thnx

KaMLuNg

iTrader: (5)

he is a member of this board.... Hondacuraworld... just PM him and tell him that Andrew just placed this order last week for his 98 3.2 TL... he should remember... if u want to order it right away, 1-888-729-5257... his name is Tim

meazz1

thanks, KaMLuNg.

KaMLuNg

iTrader: (5)

u bet... i will be doing it tonight.. i will take pics and write up another DIY with pics...

racerock

It does not pay at all to attempt to clean the filter.

Buy a "WIX" filter, and it includes the screen (exactly like OEM), the o-ring, and the correct gasket. All for about $20 - $25 from a good jobber.

You would spend about 3-5 bucks on a can of cleaner, and still need to buy the gasket - adds up to say 10 or 15 if you get the gasket from the dealer.

And for what???

Just to run the risk of loosening some small piece of metal that has been sitting happy in your screen in some corner where you cannot see it. And your luck, it is now freed up to cause thousands of dollars of damage.

If you choose to clean your screen, deal with the consequences and long term potential loss.

For kicks, I had mine out and cleaned it up to see what could be cleaned, and you can't get it all. Not worth it. I have about 30 years of working on stuff like this, and have seen the consequences. Some of you may bash the above saying you have done it with success. But there could be others that have had problems, or you may have one next week....

Check out this thread instead:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...67#post1392067

racerock

What most Acura dealers do is pull the drain plug and put 3 quarts in. No pan removal.

UnsanePyro

Yeah, it probably is time, haha.

I wasn't sure how easy it was to do, and didn't want to just jump in to something like that. Started at a new college at the start of this year too, so that has been taking up a good amount of time.

Definately though, I want to have it done before the HSP meet at the end of April. I've got a lot of goals for that meet, even though most of it isn't stuff that people will notice, I'm just using it to guage the time.