Yokohama prada spec-x vs Avid Envigor
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Yokohama prada spec-x vs Avid Envigor
Looking to replace stock set of tires at about 35,xxx miles and definitely feel the instability in the rain. I live in Miami, FL and theres some heavy storms every now and then so looking for tires that do well in summer weather but also does well in the rain!
Price difference is barely anything 152$ for the Envigors, 166$ for the spec-x
Let me know your input have looked over the forum good reviews on both just cant decide.
Price difference is barely anything 152$ for the Envigors, 166$ for the spec-x
Let me know your input have looked over the forum good reviews on both just cant decide.
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Did you look at tirerack.com? Parada is #1 with 8 million miles in its category and the Envigor is #4 with 10 million miles in is category. You need to make sure you can get the proper load rating too.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...jsp?type=SSTAS
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=HPAS
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...jsp?type=SSTAS
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=HPAS
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Did you look at tirerack.com? Parada is #1 with 8 million miles in its category and the Envigor is #4 with 10 million miles in is category. You need to make sure you can get the proper load rating too.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...jsp?type=SSTAS
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=HPAS
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...jsp?type=SSTAS
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=HPAS
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It's funny that I also replace my stock at around 35,xxx miles. I had the Yoko for 2 years now and had no complaints. It performed admirably during rain and snow. And the price was just right too. The only issue I have is it's has a high rate of getting puncture by nails and the rest. But that could be our driving though.
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I've had these on since Jan/Feb of 2012. Prior to this past March, the car had been a weekend warrior w/ occasional snow use. Now that it's been a DD, can give more accurate experiences w/ them. They are OEM size.
The Good:
-They perform very well in light snow; I only drive when roads have been plowed or there's less than 3" on ground. Only once did I get caught driving around in about 6" of unplowed snow and even then, car did fine as long as I wasn't stupid.
-In rain, these are EXCELLENT. We had some major downpours in the DC area this summer and I drove thru some badly flooded roads. Car did not deviate nor feel unstable at any point in the drive (and I was not grandma'ing it either). On some backroads that looked like creeks/small rivers, I would actually push the car harder just to see and it felt like I was on dry pavement.
-They are quieter and definitely handle large impacts better than OEM's did. Now, the noise factor may change as these only have about 3K on them.....
The Bad:
-While they are fine on the dry, I do feel they are softer than the OEM's, so they do fold more when cornering. Nothing drastic, but the roll difference can still be felt.
-As a result of the softness and tall sidewalls, the car displays this little 'jiggling' sensation when you come to a stop, when a car drives by you (and you're at a standstill) or when you make major movements in the car (while car is still). I'm pretty sure these are due to tires and not bad suspension parts; when I push the front quarter panel, I can actually see the sidewalls wobbling back/forth. If you have lower profile (maybe 45), this might not be as noticeable, but the 55 series do. Again, I only notice these things when car is still, I've not noticed any instability in motion.
If I had to get tires again, I'd first see if any stiffer tires exist. On other hand, I would recommend them and maybe even get them again.
The Good:
-They perform very well in light snow; I only drive when roads have been plowed or there's less than 3" on ground. Only once did I get caught driving around in about 6" of unplowed snow and even then, car did fine as long as I wasn't stupid.
-In rain, these are EXCELLENT. We had some major downpours in the DC area this summer and I drove thru some badly flooded roads. Car did not deviate nor feel unstable at any point in the drive (and I was not grandma'ing it either). On some backroads that looked like creeks/small rivers, I would actually push the car harder just to see and it felt like I was on dry pavement.
-They are quieter and definitely handle large impacts better than OEM's did. Now, the noise factor may change as these only have about 3K on them.....
The Bad:
-While they are fine on the dry, I do feel they are softer than the OEM's, so they do fold more when cornering. Nothing drastic, but the roll difference can still be felt.
-As a result of the softness and tall sidewalls, the car displays this little 'jiggling' sensation when you come to a stop, when a car drives by you (and you're at a standstill) or when you make major movements in the car (while car is still). I'm pretty sure these are due to tires and not bad suspension parts; when I push the front quarter panel, I can actually see the sidewalls wobbling back/forth. If you have lower profile (maybe 45), this might not be as noticeable, but the 55 series do. Again, I only notice these things when car is still, I've not noticed any instability in motion.
If I had to get tires again, I'd first see if any stiffer tires exist. On other hand, I would recommend them and maybe even get them again.
Last edited by x2lacrosse; 12-05-2013 at 07:53 AM.
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I had the Paradas on my old Trailblazer SS, they rocked wet, dry, or snow. It was also an AWD SUV but with twice the power and I couldn't break them loose unless I threw it into a turn with the stability off.
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