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Old 05-18-2011, 10:43 PM
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for what its worth - re-design...

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/spi...e_cars/gallery

awful. if this is an indication of what to expect...looks like a hyundai, kia or combination of bad everything. Acura is usually right down the pipe or directly along side the CRV when redesigned. I hope acura makes a more exclusive new RDX rather than re-badge a CRV this time around.
Old 05-18-2011, 10:48 PM
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wth. what is that? a boxy crosstour? i didnt like the new civic sedan (ok with new 2 dr civic though) and if this is any indication of the new cr-v or even rdx... ugh!
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http://www.insideline.com/acura/future-vehicles.html

Exterior looks like it gets a refresh in 2013. No more turbo, no more hto-06 Rofl
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it really reminded me of the older subaru tribeca, in the rear, plus a volvo ass. so, gross.
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The new CR-V looks about the same size as the current RDX?

There is a good chance the all new RDX will grow in size closer to the current MDX (probably with no 3rd row seat). The new 6AT hasn’t helped the MDX improve its combined mpgs by much. We might see a 1 or 2 combined mpg improvement with the 3.5L+6AT+extra size+extra weight+sh-awd 2013 RDX compared to the current 07-2012 models.

I think we will never see gas below $3.50 a gallon in our lifetime. Someone should take the lead and make "affordable" hybrid (mass produce for every make and model). Adding Honda IMA hybrid tech to +80% of the Honda/Acura lineup would only up the cost of each vehicle by $300-$500 and improve combined MPGs and power by +10%-25%.

An 3.5L RDX with IMA+Variable Cylinder Management+6AT would have more power than the 2.3L turbo w/ Hondata reflash with an increase combined MPG of about 22-24 mpgs.
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Originally Posted by mrgold35
An 3.5L RDX with IMA+Variable Cylinder Management+6AT would have more power than the 2.3L turbo w/ Hondata reflash with an increase combined MPG of about 22-24 mpgs.
The problem is it will probably be just the same 3.5L as in the base TL and TSX. No thank you. The current engine is better. But there will be plenty of "it has more cylinders so it is better" people out there that will like it better. Too bad really. Honda was actually ahead of the game going to a four cylinder turbo for a larger vehicle, and now they are going to hand that advantage back to Hyundai, BMW, Ford and others. You know, companies that are on the move in a positive direction.

Sadly, I will most likely be moving on for the next vehicle to who knows what. My other favorite brand, Subaru, seems to have caught the same retard as Honda. They have let their massive lead in 4 cylinder turbo technology fall to nil as well. I'd still take the STI's engine over any non-exotic (read:Porsche) six cylinder engine made, but the price has went up 30% over the last 8 years with almost no improvement to the car as a whole. They never managed to stuff it into the more practical Forester or the Legacy.

Edit: also, my dad is going to shit when he see's what they are doing to the CR-V. He was going to trade his '07 on a '12. I bet he won't now, lol.

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Originally Posted by Kaze66218
http://www.insideline.com/acura/future-vehicles.html

Exterior looks like it gets a refresh in 2013. No more turbo, no more hto-06 Rofl
yea i already made a post about this. but keep in mind the rdx is not based on the crv...totally different chassis. i dont think the future rdx will look like this. rdx was made to challenge the bmw x3 specifically and i think it might actually grow in size in the future and get a boring 3.5L v6 and 2.4L I4.

https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-rdx-2013-2018-404/2013-acura-rdx-will-have-v6-engine-812566/
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Huh? Looks to me like minor styling tweaks. Scarcely looks different than the previous CR-V.

Will still blend right into the traffic. I doubt most CR-V buyers will object.

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Old 05-19-2011, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by pickler
yea i already made a post about this. but keep in mind the rdx is not based on the crv...totally different chassis. i dont think the future rdx will look like this. rdx was made to challenge the bmw x3 specifically and i think it might actually grow in size in the future and get a boring 3.5L v6 and 2.4L I4.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=812566

Ahh.. Yes you did! Yup yup, now if theyd suprise us and make a manual version next (while it's still I4 turbo) year we'd be doing tranny/ecu swaps. I'd drop the money for the parts right now.
Old 05-19-2011, 06:15 PM
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the edmunds article is just about a year old and speculative at best. The CRV, given Acuras trend, is something in the flesh to judge the next RDX against. My best guess is that there is NO WAY the RDX will be a true Acura vehicle like say, the ZDX. At most, the RDX will get different sheet-metal, call it what you will, the RDX if the past is any indication, will be more similar to a CRV, not less.

and btw. GAS MILEAGE IS THE LEAST OF THE PROBLEMS FACING THIS REDESIGN lol.
Old 05-19-2011, 07:37 PM
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eww that looks like dookie.

looks like that Benz minivan in the back. no thanks.
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Originally Posted by pickler
yea i already made a post about this. but keep in mind the rdx is not based on the crv...totally different chassis. i dont think the future rdx will look like this. rdx was made to challenge the bmw x3 specifically and i think it might actually grow in size in the future and get a boring 3.5L v6 and 2.4L I4.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=812566
It is not really a totally different chassis/platform. Platform/chassis relationships have become pretty fluid since cars started to be designed in CAD from the ground up. It is the same platform, though. Almost identical hardpoints and frame dimensions. Yes, technically the chassis is different because the power trains are different, but if you get that strict the FWD RDX is a different chassis, too. What I am trying to say is that the strict definitions of the word chassis and platform is pretty meaningless in the CAD era because major changes can be made so much more easily. For the purposes of this discussion, the RDX and CR-V are definitely on the same platform, like the American Accord and TL are. It is not a coincidence that their refresh schedules are synchronized (the Acura is always a model year later) and I can guarantee you that of the CR-V sees a major change in frame dimensions, the RDX will see a similar change.
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eww that looks like dookie.

looks like that Benz minivan in the back. no thanks.
It looks worse than the R class. That bump has to go.

Edit: the front overhangs look shorter, which is a positive. Being Acura, they could not let that stand and had to ruin the back so that something was wrong.
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Hhmmm, not feeling that at all...guess I'll wait to see what the next mid-life update looks like
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Looks exactly like what I would expect from a new CRV. Why woul Honda mess with one of its most successful sellers. The resale is one of the best around. Lots of loyal buyers, plenty of competition out there trying to out CRV the CRV. They will sell all they can build.

I would expect the RDX to be similar, offer an IMA option and have nicer interior materials. I don't see Acura chasing MB, BMW and Audi in the future.
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Originally Posted by brizey
It is not really a totally different chassis/platform. Platform/chassis relationships have become pretty fluid since cars started to be designed in CAD from the ground up. It is the same platform, though. Almost identical hardpoints and frame dimensions. Yes, technically the chassis is different because the power trains are different, but if you get that strict the FWD RDX is a different chassis, too. What I am trying to say is that the strict definitions of the word chassis and platform is pretty meaningless in the CAD era because major changes can be made so much more easily. For the purposes of this discussion, the RDX and CR-V are definitely on the same platform, like the American Accord and TL are. It is not a coincidence that their refresh schedules are synchronized (the Acura is always a model year later) and I can guarantee you that of the CR-V sees a major change in frame dimensions, the RDX will see a similar change.
You both are right the rdx chassis or frame is based of the iirc Honda global light truck platform, ciw.

Current cr-v
http://automobiles.honda.com/cr-v/specifications.aspx

2nd gen rdx
http://www.acura.com/DimensionsCapac...aspx?model=RDX
1st gen rdx
http://www.edmunds.com/acura/rdx/200...res-specs.html

But the suspension is where the 2 deviate look at the dif wheelbases, caster (trail and rake like on motorcycles) of the shocks maybe the culprit, and if that changes, then suspension geometry has to change. Also, the engine bay of the RDX was designed around the k23a1 so the subframes are way different.

I agree that Honda sometimes syncs the next gen series to give the consumer the appearance that the newer line of model xxxxxx's are superior to older. Honestly, if you like what you got then don't get rid of it.

@lifeat- lol... Think your right, they quit chasing lux brands after 2009 IMO. Honda Acura is on there own damn program...lol: loyalty and relaibility.

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Old 05-20-2011, 06:56 PM
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Huh? Looks to me like minor styling tweaks. Scarcely looks different than the previous CR-V.

Will still blend right into the traffic. I doubt most CR-V buyers will object.
That's exactly what I was thinking. To me it looks fine and I am sure after the design of a few odd Honda / Acura vehicles like the TL, Crosstour, Element, Honda might be a bit gunshy.
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Eww, hah.
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any "minor" styling tweak can still ruin a car, take for example, honda or acura lol.
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