abouelmm

would it be worth the money if i bought arospeed headers and threw in an aem or ebay intake with a filter at 116K miles for my 3.0? how noticeable are the gains? cuz its between them two or a rockford system. and for those of you who are already going to tell me to drop the car first, im in the process of getting some nuespeed springs from my friend.
appreciate the help

teh CL

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why wouldn't it be worth it....116K is nothing on these engines...

abouelmm

ok, so your saying its worth it. so what about the gains with these headers?

97BlackAckCL

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Search bro, everyone talks about headers and intakes, a cai intake will give u about 3-5 hp gain maybe. Headers will give you 15-20 hp gains most likely. Next time search

SwervinCL

Thats a BIG maybe. With a header, you may get 3-5 out of it. More air out = more air in.
It all depends on what you want out of your car. Do you want speed or do you want good sound? If you do a header, your gonna have to do the rest of the exhaust to get the most out of your header.

wontonjohnny

i agree with 97BlackAckCL, you think headers only give you 3-5? if it was that minute people wouldnt pay big bucks for them. i think headers are the greatest bolt on, minus a bolt on turbo. 15-20 on headers alone is pushing it, but i wouldnt know cause i dont have a 3.0. maybe the factory exhaust is high flow. but in combo with a cat back 15-20 is about right. youll gain more tq too. im guessing +20-25 fbtq

97BlackAckCL

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and

SwervinCL

No, I meant with a header you may be able to get 3-5 out of the intake.

99CL

get the headers, they make a big difference.

97BlackAckCL

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I said the INTAKE will give him 3-5 the headers 15-20 maybe depending on his exhaust and what headers he gets

wontonjohnny

oh... still dont agree with that... intake will get you atleast 3-5 on a 4 cyl, 6cyl i imagine will be more. espcailly if its a CAI

97BlackAckCL

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Not more than 4 or 5 horses on a 6 man, like swervin said agreeing with me, the headers and intake combined is the best bet cuz more air in = more air out. That'll give you about 20 horsies

CL Platano

I vote for the rockfords..

abouelmm

you guys are confusing :shakehead
someone said that headers give you 15 hp
someone said intakes give you 5 hp
someone said the complete opposite
someone disagreed
therefore making me lean towards the rockford p3's with platano

2point2CL

as long as you have enough money to replace your tranny when it goes out, do whatever you want!

abouelmm

im nice to my tranny, we get along, but lets not get off track. everytime i post i always end up with a discussion of my lambo doors and shit rather than learnign anything. and i just searched, so dont tell me to search. all i found, is that ssauto has good headers and that a cai will fuck up your engine if your around water

SwervinCL

It basically boils down to what you plan on getting out of your car. Your car is not gonna be fast unless you sink a lot of money into it. Meaning like 4-10k. a header will give you max 20-25 hp if you have a CAI or SRI and full exhaust. But just by adding a header to stock exhaust your looking at around 10-15.
Still confused?

99CL

get H/I/E. You have a 3.0 right. If you do you'll feel a difference, trust me. Then get the UR pulleys. WHen I had that combo I dynoed in about 200 whp (forgot the actual number).

Cocoa

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I've done the dyno with the basic bolt ons on the 3.0

With headers, CAI, exhasut, and pullies you are looking at around 13whp. And if you were to get it tuned with a piggy back (VAFC), you can get another 12whp. So in total, I got 25whp out of the basic bolt ons, but TUNED! So you can expect around 4-6whp with the headers alone. I've explained how the fake dyno sheets work that are offered by companies that claim 20-25whp out of their headers. Just search, there's a lot of info I have provided about headers in general for our cars...

starboy2nv

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it dont matter about the miles... my cl has 136k and i dog the shit out if everyday and it does as its told... the only mod i have is a v2 btw. oh and imma put on these new headers i have here and my old piping and exhaust just for the hell of it till the engine blows/or when i have all the pieces for my next project...

Cocoa

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I dynoed at 175whp. It depends on what dyno was used. They will all provide different numbers.

CL Platano

yeah but you don't have to worry about adding stress to a glass 3.0 tranny. I wouldn't do anything over 100K to a 3.0 without having 2g waiting for a replacement. I'm modding mine till I get rid of it at 99,999.99 miles

SwervinCL

But since you have lambo doors, it sounds as if you want more a show car than power. So if i were you id just get the rockfords and save yourself some money. Invest in a 2nd trany and call it a day.

abouelmm

ok. but i dont usually floor it every 10 seconds like some people. as long as im good to the tranny i dont think it will go anytime soon.116K and still on original.
ok so we conclude that max hp will be reached with a cai, headers, and full exhaust. thats like a g to a g 1/2. not bad. so with the cai (i know its been discussed but who cares) theres the ebay stuff for like 50 bucks and theres the aem and all that good stuff for 150-200. ive read that it doesnt matter and that it does matter. opinions? and about the water getting to your engine, can someone tell me how to prevent that, kn filter?

97BlackAckCL

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Ebay intake is just as good as an AEM imo. If you're worried about driving through 3 foot deep puddles, get a bypass valve. That's what I have on my cai.

FullScreen

just do it. You'll notice it. END Dont be a noob

jz-97-c7

DOoo eeeettt...i put headers on my 3.0 @150,000miles. nice little improvement, made me want to push it slowly off a cliff rather than blow it up. i'm at 164,xxx now

SwervinCL

Keyword "little"

You can do ALL that for a lot less that a grand.
Intake - 20$
Header - 150-200
Exhaust - 300

Thats 500 bucks. OR spend that on a sound system and be VERY happy.

abouelmm

yay or nay
i really dont see how it would fit, but it says it would
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Acura...spagenameZWDVW
or these
http://www.andysautosport.com/produc...ed?_v=vmd00001 i dont see the exhaust piece on this one tho.

97BlackAckCL

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None of those

abouelmm

but everything else is for 2.2/2.3, im not seeing any other ones besides those

SwervinCL

Get a magnaflow with custom bent piping. On a slightly modded engine, your not gonna notice a difference between mandrel bent and crush bent. Take your car to any muffler shop and tell them you want 2.25" piping from the cat back to the muffler. That will run you about 150. Then however much a magnaflow is.

99CL

Yea i know. My last dyno was on a dynopack (i think) at churches automotive and i got 209 whp. Thats with my type-s cam. But yes it doesn't depend on the dyno used.

wilp99

ive only known one person to destroy a j30a motor.. cocoa. and he was sprayin @130 shot or so.. and he didnt have the mixture right so it was his own fault. id venture so say our engines are almost bullet proof.. especially at 120k miles. mine had headers on it @125k and pulled like it was a new car. wouldnt worry about anything with the motor.. now the tranny,,,, that may go because of headers only because your gonna be more lead footed. have fun..

abouelmm

so rockford fosgate it is