18anatak

im' such a whore. I started the day with like 6900. now i have 7146

baka_t

Yup, I know guys running that much on pump 92 here in the islands. Daily driven also. NEXT.

Not I.

baka_t

Why did you buy your cl in the 1st place then, when all the car's your talking about, or interested in is in the 30k+ range? If you had so much money at the time, why didn't you buy the 350. It was out when you bought the cl. :noob: the cl is prolly your 1st car, and you have done no performance mod's to it, why listen to a guy that reads books?????

baka_t

Your going from a slow car to a boat, so that basically means you really dont care about speed. Why are you still in this argument. Mr I got nitrous just for the purge feature.

baka_t

Ok so your friend is like any other redneck hillbilly out there that has a trans am. Plus anyone can run a 150shot with bolton's and be fast. Keith was running 13's, with bolton's and 125shot with fuel problems on street tires. If he got his fuel dialed, and ran slicks, i'm sure he'd be in the mid 12 sec range. Can you list the mods your friend did to his car, and that's still not close to what you claimed, running in the 800-900hp range. Good luck with your chances with the nitrous. I'm sure if you had a turbo h22, you'd still be running 87 also.

lnsyone

haha im sure the 7 sec drag civics arent considered racing cars?

lnsyone

None taken. This is my first PROJECT car and I am taking its potential to its maximum. Credit, huh? Fuck yeah I give my car credit. In everything I do, i give 100%. Now, I don't have to be the "fastest" on the streets because there are always people thatll have a faster car than you. What Id like to do is build a powerful motor thats enough to still be a street driven/legal car. That is my goal as an enthusiast. Anyone can buy a car. Its what you do to it, that matters.

azian21485

you know there ARE alot more options than the "almighty" h22

baka_t

The funniest thing about this thread is, the people that are complaining the cl is slow, are the one's that either went all show with a 2.2 automatic, or have a stock 3.0 with no engine mod's. I didn't see d98clturbo, or fastvteccl post anything about our cars being slow in this thread.

baka_t

What would that be?

azian21485

people are on budgets so other things that are imo equally or more cost effective than an h22..in no way am i an expert on any of this nor will i ever swap or build my motor (staying in sts autox class) but some things to think about

boost the fseries..helluvalot stronger block than h22's alluminum which means it can handle more boost without touching the internals...parts come buy cheap..engine comes by cheap...go custom and you'll get more power for cheaper than h22

h23 plus boost...same as fseries but has a few perks like larger intake manifold..stronger block than h22...dohc..parts still cheaper than h22...but we already have the f22 so save some money =)

f20b....expensive lol

going n/a the f22 also has potentional...swap the b2 head for a a6 head and you have a pretty stout engine...it's also alot more fun building a sohc to take on the big boys =)

in no way am i saying the h22a is a bad motor, imo there's just other choices out there instead of doing what everyone else is doing or dreams of doing..might as well go buy a prelude

[QUOTE=proaudio22]You guys forget there are turns in the road too. I don't care if you have a $2K suspention on your $10K car - and you can beat an STi in a straight line - you still aren't going to come anywhere close to him in the twisties or on the track.
QUOTE]

i've beaten porsches and rsx-s spending under a grand on my currently crappy suspension in auto-x...there's civics out there and other cars that put well under $30000 that rape sti's on the courses

18anatak

You're right, i dont care about speed on my car. I honestly couldnt care less. Like i've said many times over, my bike takes care of my need for speed. I'm still in this argument cuz some of you people think that a 5+ yr old car with a Prelude motor is the best thing on the planet. Its not. More power to you if you have do have 500HP in your CL, but they're few and far between. As for my nitrous, I originally did get it for the show/ purge factor, but grew to like it. I've probably already been through about 15 bottles already. Running on 87 octane. So luckily, me and the mad scientist havent had to replace any of those piston rings yet.



Actually, my 'redneck hillbilly' friend is actually Asian. He switched from a WRX to the Firebird because it was a lot more powerful. You're right, he probably doesnt have 800-900 HP, even on the juice, but i was just trying to give an example. There is no replacement for displacement.



Actually, i'm not complaining. Never in this thread did u see me complain about the speed. I knew it was slow when I bought it. I test drove and even thought to myself "damn this bitch is slow". But it was pimp, so i got it. So have fun trying to turn the CL into a race car. Even d98clturbo and fastvteccl, although quick, arent gonna be smoking everything on the road. Fastvtec's fastest time was a 13.6 i believe? I dont know what D98 runs, but either way, while a 13.6 is quick, it ll still get smoked by a large number of cars out here.

proaudio22

Daily driven at full boost? Or dialed down? Noone I know is crazy enough to drive around with a stock 200hp car boosted to 500 every day.

CL is not my first car. I bought the CL b/c I needed a car right then, and I didn't have enough money at the time. No credit to get a loan (parents JUST got a divorce, niether wanted to help on a loan at the time) - so I had to buy what I could just pay cash for.

I didn't even really know that much about the first gen before I came here to read about the second gen, what I really was looking at. Saw the first gens, found a few in town, liked them better than an Accord, etc - so I bought one. Now, a year later with some great job changes - I have enough to buy a car I really want. Plus, I have credit built up to where I can get a loan if I need too.

I haven't done any performace mods to the car b/c I realized a six months after I bought it that I was going to get rid of it. Why waste the money?

How many trannies did he go though again? I'm sure if he got it all dialed it it would have been 5 more than that number. Fast is great. Fast and reliable is even better, no?

I never complained about it being slow. I said it was old and old looking. I mostly want a better/sharper looking car. As far as speed goes - I'm just looking for torque now.

CLpower

wait a minute. You spray while you run 87? Are you retarded? Your A/F has nothing to do with that.

proaudio22

I respect that - it's just I think there is a point where there is too much money spent on a car for what it's worth. To me, $8K into a $10K car is silly. But that's just my opinion.

CLpower

keith will tell you our cars are slow, we've been talking about it since day one, hence why he upgraded to a 4 banger

proaudio22

Well of course it has to do with the driver. A pro in a Civic is going to kick the noob in the Evo's ass. It's just silly to think your car can handle anywhere near a late model Porsche tho.

If you let a pro driver take your car and a 350Z around the course - I'll give you $5 if your car is even within 5 seconds of the stock Z.

CLpower

Minch00

On the subject of modding the CL, yeah I did it, but would I again now that I've done it? Probably not. When I go to sell it some work will have to be done to turn it back to stock and part it out, probably not going to find someone to buy it like it is.

And it IS slow, I've found that out the hard way, and while it does look very good when modified, it does look like an older car. It has the classic Japanese style from the mid to late 90s, the headlights with the turn signals in a seperate piece below it. So it looks dated, and it's slow.......hmmm, not what the boy racer in me wants

CLpower

what does this guy drive?

azian21485

yes my car does have crappy suspension right now and in no way do i think it'll handle better than high end sports cars out there(already have something in store for next year though =) ) but i'm a noob compared to the autox and road racers out there there's a nationally competitive 5th gen accord that is almost on his way taking 1st place one day (although i forgot what class he's running in right now)



check out http://www.ustcc.com/ tom lepper drives the stock h22 accord..he one last year winning 1st in almost every race..his competition goes from type r's to wrx and all these are full race modded so in no way is his class non-competitive..this year they put on alot of restrictions to the accord so it's not doing as well as last year but the season just started

i'm not saying that the 1st gen cl and 5th gen accords are the all mighty nor am i saying not to jump boat and look at the turbo awd craze....there's only a handful of our cars that are very competitive in what they do..but i'm just saying that these cars CAN be competitive and people shouldn't doubt one car's potential..it'll just take more work =)

18anatak

the only thing retarded is this thread. And you of course.

baka_t

Daily driven, street car running 450whp on pump 92.



Why argue on here then, get rid of your cl because you hate it so much.

Good for you, why even post here?

Sell Sell Sell then $$$$$$.



He's been through 6, and all were replaced for free under warranty. Obviously, rebuilt trannys arent as good as oem. Dustbuster has been spraying on his and had no problem's till this date, what about that???



Buy a truck then.

baka_t

Ok, you win ghander.

Always Dirty

This car was not built or marketed as a true sports car. Part of the reason you see so many 40 year old women driving them. People can dump as much as they want into it and get it kind of fast (relatively), but you can do that with just about anything on the road, and much cheaper in most cases.

r3mix3r

c'mon eric be nice

CLpower

CLpower

that newb wolfboy thinks you should be banned

18anatak

who? me, or rodxx? and why? divulge your information!

jamolie

well, in my opinion... in the end the CL is a slow car. it wasnt meant to be fast. yes, it is possible to mod it up but in my experience is pretty much a waste of money.... unless you plan to keep the car forever. i too am jumping ship to subaru (sti) soon. im selling my car and am not earning shit for all the mods i've done to it. now im just looking for something that is fast stock... and has a warrantee... props to those that have done swaps... i was that close to doing one myself. however after talking to my friend with a h22a swap on his accord coupe... i decided not to... too many problems.

CLpower

rodxx

legendaryCL98

just get a '05 lancer evo RS.. it'll practically dust everything for about $27,000


err.. with the right mods atleast. but inline four with 271 HP!! holy crap!

put i/e/h on there and your set!

the only opponents you'll end up wanting to race are exotics ie: lambos, ferraris, lotus', porche..

lnsyone

i sure hope that none of you think that having a fast car determines the size of your testicles.

d5c5b

no, it just determines how fast you are....

lnsyone

seriously,quit now and take out the fast and the furious dvd.

r3mix3r

Who wants me banned? and why?