Taking Brake Discs/Rotors Off ('99 3.0)
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Taking Brake Discs/Rotors Off ('99 3.0)
I read on the forums that the two phillips screws that hold the rotor are a bitch to take off but does anyone have any suggestions on what I could do to remove them? I have tried the impact driver (the one that you whack with a hammer) but all I did is bent the driver bit. The suckers won't budge!
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Originally Posted by whiggy
I read on the forums that the two phillips screws that hold the rotor are a bitch to take off but does anyone have any suggestions on what I could do to remove them? I have tried the impact driver (the one that you whack with a hammer) but all I did is bent the driver bit. The suckers won't budge!
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haha last week I did that and was close to getting the c4....
i started off with the standard phillips...no avail...then jumped to the impact gun/dremel technique...nada...then i torched the fawker....no avail....then i figured ok im gonna annialate that biotch...so i got the drill...alot of drill bits and basicly drilled those screws into nothing...rotor popped off +1 victory for me
all that was left of the screws was a pile of shreddings on the ground...4tehw1n!!
i started off with the standard phillips...no avail...then jumped to the impact gun/dremel technique...nada...then i torched the fawker....no avail....then i figured ok im gonna annialate that biotch...so i got the drill...alot of drill bits and basicly drilled those screws into nothing...rotor popped off +1 victory for me
all that was left of the screws was a pile of shreddings on the ground...4tehw1n!!
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torch is a bad idea cause you can score your bearing race. which = $$$. you can use a chizzle and hammer. just put the chizzle at an angle to where it would loosten up the screw and give it a good whack. once thier out you dont have to put them back in. they are there so the rotors dont fall off on the assembly line. so if you tear them up dont worry.. if they are still good it cant hurt to put them back.
e-z outs are my favorite tool by the way. i have two sets.
e-z outs are my favorite tool by the way. i have two sets.
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Originally Posted by Silentalero
haha last week I did that and was close to getting the c4....
i started off with the standard phillips...no avail...then jumped to the impact gun/dremel technique...nada...then i torched the fawker....no avail....then i figured ok im gonna annialate that biotch...so i got the drill...alot of drill bits and basicly drilled those screws into nothing...rotor popped off +1 victory for me
all that was left of the screws was a pile of shreddings on the ground...4tehw1n!!
i started off with the standard phillips...no avail...then jumped to the impact gun/dremel technique...nada...then i torched the fawker....no avail....then i figured ok im gonna annialate that biotch...so i got the drill...alot of drill bits and basicly drilled those screws into nothing...rotor popped off +1 victory for me
all that was left of the screws was a pile of shreddings on the ground...4tehw1n!!
yup i did the same thing.........i had to drill the them out..
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Originally Posted by Silentalero
haha last week I did that and was close to getting the c4....
i started off with the standard phillips...no avail...then jumped to the impact gun/dremel technique...nada...then i torched the fawker....no avail....then i figured ok im gonna annialate that biotch...so i got the drill...alot of drill bits and basicly drilled those screws into nothing...rotor popped off +1 victory for me
all that was left of the screws was a pile of shreddings on the ground...4tehw1n!!
i started off with the standard phillips...no avail...then jumped to the impact gun/dremel technique...nada...then i torched the fawker....no avail....then i figured ok im gonna annialate that biotch...so i got the drill...alot of drill bits and basicly drilled those screws into nothing...rotor popped off +1 victory for me
all that was left of the screws was a pile of shreddings on the ground...4tehw1n!!
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I did it!!!
On the driver side I was able to take one screw out with the impact driver. Then the tip of the impact driver bit broke off in the other screw. I took the drill to it and the driver bit was a real biotch to drill out at first but I eventually did it.
On the passanger side I was able to take one screw out with a regular phillips screwdriver (WTF?) and the other one I had to drill out. Then the disc wouldn't come off so I had to tap on it from inside (used a two-by-four and a hammer).
All in all, I am glad I did it. It makes a world of difference - no more vibration when braking and it seems to stop on a dime now. :-)
Thank you all for your help.
P.S. My local AutoZone doesn't seem to carry C4. Go figure.
On the driver side I was able to take one screw out with the impact driver. Then the tip of the impact driver bit broke off in the other screw. I took the drill to it and the driver bit was a real biotch to drill out at first but I eventually did it.
On the passanger side I was able to take one screw out with a regular phillips screwdriver (WTF?) and the other one I had to drill out. Then the disc wouldn't come off so I had to tap on it from inside (used a two-by-four and a hammer).
All in all, I am glad I did it. It makes a world of difference - no more vibration when braking and it seems to stop on a dime now. :-)
Thank you all for your help.
P.S. My local AutoZone doesn't seem to carry C4. Go figure.
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I just did my pads/rotors/bleeding all around today for the first time.
The impact driver was a must and did the job removing those damn screws. I also broke a driver bit in the screw, but inserted another bit and just kept going. (my hand is now a bloody stump) Isn't it interesting that the screw we remove is not the same size as the screw you would insert in the other hole to break the rotor free?! Honda usually does better than that. Had to whack the rear rotors a lot, the fronts fell right off.
So, on the rear caliper and caliper bracket upper bolts, how the heck do you get a torque wrench in there to tighten them back to 80/54 ft lbs? Also, on one side (driver-rear), my bolt turned and turned until I realized I needed to lock up this oblong thingie next to the rubber. Only a problem on that one wheel.
Started to install a speed bleeder, then my heart sank as it turned round and round and I realized I had stripped the threads. Fortunately, the speed bleeder threads are soft, so I didn't damage the caliper threads (whew!). FYI - speed bleeders designed for 1986 Honda Accord 6cy do NOT fit the 99 CL 3.0. I'll have to call SB to see if they make any that do. Regardless, with my son pumping the brakes, bleeding was pretty easy. I was surprised how little fluid was needed and how quickly the new fluid appeared from the bleeder. My Chilton manual said the order should be driver-front, passenger-front, passenger-rear, driver-rear: almost the opposite of what I would expect, but that's what I did. I think the speed bleeder would only be of benefit if you had no helper. Using the speed bleeder solo, I would have spent just as much (or more) time checking the fluid coming out and topping up the resevour. No time savings.
So, I survived. No major injuries, property damage or mental illness (well . . .). Figured I saved up to $300. Now THAT'S satisfaction, baby.
The impact driver was a must and did the job removing those damn screws. I also broke a driver bit in the screw, but inserted another bit and just kept going. (my hand is now a bloody stump) Isn't it interesting that the screw we remove is not the same size as the screw you would insert in the other hole to break the rotor free?! Honda usually does better than that. Had to whack the rear rotors a lot, the fronts fell right off.
So, on the rear caliper and caliper bracket upper bolts, how the heck do you get a torque wrench in there to tighten them back to 80/54 ft lbs? Also, on one side (driver-rear), my bolt turned and turned until I realized I needed to lock up this oblong thingie next to the rubber. Only a problem on that one wheel.
Started to install a speed bleeder, then my heart sank as it turned round and round and I realized I had stripped the threads. Fortunately, the speed bleeder threads are soft, so I didn't damage the caliper threads (whew!). FYI - speed bleeders designed for 1986 Honda Accord 6cy do NOT fit the 99 CL 3.0. I'll have to call SB to see if they make any that do. Regardless, with my son pumping the brakes, bleeding was pretty easy. I was surprised how little fluid was needed and how quickly the new fluid appeared from the bleeder. My Chilton manual said the order should be driver-front, passenger-front, passenger-rear, driver-rear: almost the opposite of what I would expect, but that's what I did. I think the speed bleeder would only be of benefit if you had no helper. Using the speed bleeder solo, I would have spent just as much (or more) time checking the fluid coming out and topping up the resevour. No time savings.
So, I survived. No major injuries, property damage or mental illness (well . . .). Figured I saved up to $300. Now THAT'S satisfaction, baby.
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