mitch819

My transmission gets annoying the way it shifts and I have been dealing with it for a year and I want to make plans for a swap. I dont know a ton about honda motors but I thinking a built h22 turbo with 5 speed. How much work would this be? maybe someone has some comments on what I should be considering and which set up would be easier.

97BlackAckCL

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I'm not sure about the difference in mounts, the engine bay will accept it, but you will have to redo all the mounts in order to swap the 3.0 in there. Also I think the cross members are different. Also the suspensions are different. It is doable, but you might be better off finding a blown 2.x CL and dumping a an H into it. Also, the 3.0 is set up for auto so there would be more work doing the manual conversion, but it would be a great project and i'd love to see it

Alperovich

what about fitting a newer J motor into teh 3.0?

732xghost

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that would probaly work. cocoa would have to chime in on that. cuz i think he needed different mounts for his swap.

like blackack said, just find a POS 2.2 for dirt cheap. im sorry but with the acception of a few people on here, your performance is very limited with a J30.

mitch819

Well im dont want to buy another car I already have the 3.0 cl. I know the motor and tranny will fit im just trying to find out what kind of issues im going to run into.

DaInFaMMuS1

you're much better off getting a messed up 2.2/3 and putting a motor in there, the engine bays between teh 3.0 and the 2.x make it a bitch and a half to swap the different motors between them. If you already have a 3.0 and wanna do a motor n tranny swap, prepare to shell out atleast 5-6k to complete it.

732xghost

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well with $$ anything will fit. but neither us or the accord community would be able to tell you all the issues, cuz quite frankly im gonna say its safe to say no one has ever done it.

Gun5

hey I was reading cant you just put a h22 head on the 2.2-2.3? i know there is minor wire/gasket matching work but someone on the accord forums said something about it

732xghost

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yea its called a G22 or G23. Silver97Cl is the first CL to do it probaly.

Dicorp

lol @ this thread...honestly you have 2 options once your tranny starts dying
1) Sell the car, hoping the buyer doesn't notice
2)Start saving 3000 for a rebuild

Gun5

ya he sent me a write up but it was the whole h22 engine swap id rather just do the head, not spending the 2500 for my DD lol

732xghost

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i thought he only did the headswap.

theres a number of BB1 preludes and accords on honda-tech.com with that swap.

Gun5

i pm'd him hopefully it is, I could probably get everything in about a day (buying a 40k 2.3 complete engine for 200) so it will be on the stand

97BlackAckCL

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Yes, that doesn't help this guy cuz he has a 3.0. Just swap in a 3.2 type s motor

Gun5

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2001-...spagenameZWD1V

thats like what 20-30 horses, h22 plus some boost would be better much more $$ as stated earlier.. whatever you wanna do man how deep your pockets are mostly

Alperovich

what about the 3.5 typeS motor +6spd trans, i kno, first thing in questions is fundage, but i'm talking is it even possible?

asianspec

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anything is possible with time and money. if that was the case then just take TL-S motor with their 6speed tranny its a 3.7

97BlackAckCL

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The 3.2 block bolts right up to stock motor mounts, the h22 in a 3.0 engine bay would need more fab work and mounts moved.

Certain 3.5 blocks will fit, however you have to be careful with the top end and IM because of hood clearance. They're also way more expensive, and the firewall would need cut to mount the 6 speed.

732xghost

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get a civic bro.

97BlackAckCL

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Alperovich

screw civics. i would much rather take a CL over a civic. sure sure, its easier to mod, but at the end of the day, its still a pos civic. of course i'd take the legend over the CL

Cocoa

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What 3.5 Type S engine are you talking about?

Alperovich

from the TLs

Cocoa

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Are the new TL's 3.5L?

DaInFaMMuS1

yes sir they are. The TL-S versions that is.

97BlackAckCL

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Cocoa

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Funny, so I guess the RL is no longer available? Cause I would not see a reason for them to do that with a new RL coming up. Just seems like they would be cutting their own throats. Bad ass though.

732xghost

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apparently the RL is gonna be a V8 aswell as the Ridgeline if my Honda reasources are correct. which usually are.

Alperovich

/\ what? yes its still availible. the TL and RL are very different animal's. yes they do offer both with the same motor. but VERY different cars and different markets that they are set for. I am excited to see whats in store for the next gen RL's and TL's

97BlackAckCL

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Cocoa

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But the sales for the RL have been beyond shitty. Just thoguht they failed horribly in marketing the right age group with the right price. At $50,000, I'm looking elsewhere for a 4 door luxury sedan.

If they go with the v8, I can see it finally worth it's pricey tag. But glad to see that it'll still be around.

scoopin

why do 2.3 or 2.2 just do the right thing and put an h22 in its place mutch more practical..............

mitch819

Well these reply's were more what I was looking for. From previous post about cocoa's 3.5 swap seemes like more work than im looking for, the idea about the 3.2 has crossed my mind, if it would plug and play and all I had to do was a little fab on the firewall this would be my perferable swap. Im not trying to build a performance beast here the 3.0 acctually has enough power if it was a stick. Bye the way money is limited but either way im going to take a huge loss selling it or fixing it.

As far as rebuilding the transmission I would like to know what kind of results to expect. From what I understand 30-40 thousand miles into it it will be back shifting hard? This is why I am considering the swap 3000 to rebuild or 5000-6000 for a swap.

732xghost

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the 3.0 has enough power as an auto. just dont blow it up. i mean you can still do I/H/E, pulleys, ignition, misc CL/TL-S parts, vtec controller. i mean for some people that enough.

clrider665

So not to hijack your thread, but if the tranny blows do u guys think it would be a good opportunity to swap a manual h22 in?

732xghost

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on a 3.0???

my dad has owned nothing but Auto Accords from 3rd to 7th gen and those trannies performed great all the way to 100K. it all depends on the driver.