97CLgenius

Correction, I am not getting offensive, I am simply stating that your choice of wording i.e. "You got smoked both runs". That comes off negative to me when you didn't even look at the first run and see that I won. I mean it's all good, but no one ever has anything positive to say except for a couple people. People are so quick to be negative and they don't even have the balls to post what their cars do, they just down play others because it makes them feel good. No beef here dawg!!

97CLgenius

Hater...........Hater............Hater............ ...How cute

97CLgenius

There are 2 types of people you'll come across in life. First you have the haters who down play others to make themselves feel good, and second you have the positive people who offer positive critisim and feedback. First off I would like to give shout outs to h22turboCL, VXCL, and SooDARK. Thanks for the positive feedback and taking the time to read and comprehend what I have said. For the others, GET SOME BALLS AND POST VIDS OF WHAT YOUR CAR DOES!! A lot of people talk, talk, talk, about what they have done, hummmmm like Got RICE for instance: Ya I am calling you out!! How you gonna say "BTW...I've beaten a RSX type S ?" PROVE THAT SH@#, Show a vid? This Forum dissapointed me when I found out that of all the people that said they performed or had the swap done, HARDLY ANYONE KNEW WHAT TO DO!!!!!!!! Big Ups to Mark David and couple others that were able to give me adivce on my wiring, but all the others DIDN"T KNOW SHIT!!!! When you do your own work performance wise and have positive results then talk, but until then STOP HATING!!!!! LOL THAT SH@# REALLY AINT" HEALTHY!!!

97CLgenius

Yes sir that's MIR.

97CLgenius

Yes, My mechanic and I did the swap and also converted from Auto to manual. Check out the process, http://www.wam.umd.edu/~pbrown click on CL Project

97CLgenius

I shifted at like 4 Grand, but I still had some tire spin. That was my first time ever doing quarter mile like that so it's gonna take some practice, plus my car still needs some tuning done. I never dropped outta VTEC, shifting at 7200 everytime.

97CLgenius

Not sure what my 60 times are, I'll have to look at the slips again, but I know for my first time I was fu#n up lol but practice makes perfect. I am not sure what the RSX had done, I know it had an exhaust. Don't worry the next runs you see will definatly be better.

VXCL

i guess since you had the entire front clip the auto to 5spd was a little easier. im trying to pick up a 97+ usdm lude at a dealer auction and just swaping engines then sell the lude with the f22.

97CLgenius

Oh yeah, that's smart too, but yes the front clip ran me the same price for just the motor so I figured just do the entire swap. Now I just have to figure out the code the engine light is shooting off so I can fix the drain in power sometimes. I think I have a sensor or mixture problem, one of the wires could also be crossed or something.

R1Performance

The RSX has an intake and exhaust. That's Dave's car from Capital RSX.

97CLgenius

aiight cool no biggie my take off stunk when we went, we would of been neck and neck if that didn't happen.

SooDARK

Hey find out what you trapped at. That'll tell us about what time you should run with a good launch.

RSX-S with e/i can run mid 14's if launched good, so if he wasn't pulling on you, I'd assume you could run close to that too.

bryanz3.0cl

you should easily hit low 15's possibly 14's if you get some some sticky tires and work on your launch with what you already have. hopefully i can get get my brothers to take their cars out there since mines so slow. AND possibly get my brothers friend to take his wrx out there...its supposed to go low 11's on pump gas. daily driven too

ding069

I am not hating on anyone here. First thing, i don't race my car, and the CL is not meant to be fast. Second, that is a shit load of money to drop on an engine swap. If it were me, i would build up and turbo/supercharge the stock f engine. Everyone has H22 swaps, few have turbo's and less superchargers. Yeah a high redline is hot, but you pay for it. Just as an example, someone who turbo'd, d98turbocl or something, what is he running the quarter. Dust in the 3.0 would still take you, and he has invest less into his engine. I am not hating on anyone, get that straight. If an H22 makes you happy, thats the right move for you. Personally, i think it is played out, and would MUCH rather used forced induction

SooDARK

OMG ding shhhhhhhhhhh. D98 would slaughter dustbuster. He had mad problems with his car plus he had no traction. His trap was still good for mid 13's and it wasn't running right. Wait till he gets it running perfect

That might have been with his old small turbo too

SooDARK

Most people that get the swaps, (including myself) get them because their tranny goes out, they have a ton of miles on their current motor, or they're having problems with the current motor. They usually don't remain stock for long either

And the whole point of it is reliability. Sure a turbo 2.x sounds good to you when you think about it, but it's alot more complicated than that. If you want the thing to last "for sure" you are gonna wind up spending over 5 grand easily. Sure you can go stock internals and get lucky for a year or so, but if you don't know A TON about engines and turbo's in general, it's really not a good idea. WAY too much maintnence. Everyone I know with a turbo honda has so many problems they can't even explain. Not just worrying about your motor blowing, but whats this black smoke? Or where is this new oil leak coming from? For me and many others, it's alot better choice to sacrafice the extra speed you'll get from a turbo sohc, than to just get an h22 and keep it all motor.

When you're a college student/athlete, working part time with no extra time on your hands, the last thing you need to worry about is if your CL is gonna start or not the next morning

h22turboCL

the whole "oh yeah h22 is the best" hype on the forums, is played out.

SooDARK

I don't think h22 is the best unless you're talking about "best/most potential motor for a CL" then yes it is the best. It's not like it has much competition with a sohc 2.2 and a 3.0 that doesn't come in manual.

But i've never used that comment or heard anyone else

h22turboCL

its hard to explain.

SooDARK

WTF do you mean? Have you ever heard anyone actually say "h22 is way better than 3.0" ?? I haven't heard anything close to that. I would actually rather take the 3.0 any day if it came in manual but it doesn't

ding069

When i was saying you, i was refering to 97CLgenius, the thread starter.(the person i quoted) I know that car is an absolute BEAST. AS for relaibility, thats why i bought a honda product, and am leaving the engine as is. You increase liability when you swap and force induce and engine. If i was spending the money for speed, i would want my car to be fast, and not worry about relaibility. Seeing as all the bragging rights are "whose fastest", not "whose more reliable". I don't street race or track race, so that money for a little bit faster car doesn't seem worth it to me. But everyone has differing opinions, if ya'll don't like mine, i understand. I'm not causing trouble or igniting anything, just saying how i feel. There are others in my same stance as well

Leon

if you shifted at 4 grand, then you never got into vtec. what gear did you shift at 4 grand? thats very early if you ask me!

liloj

5500 i think

SooDARK

I'm pretty sure he meant he launched @ 4k. Cause after that he said he shifted @ 7,200

Hey anyone know if the redline is the same for JDM and USDM h22's? Some people say that it's 7,400 and some say it's still 7,100.

BTW-Baka-Tool I mean T..... I ain't argueing with anyone, just saying I get a lil annoyed with some of his posts. He was alot cooler/more normal with Insyone And don't try to get tough i was fucking around, I meant just you 2 not all hawiian's:P Oh and I'm not tring to act tough back or anything, but just sayin, I wouldn't be afraid of any 290 lb guy even tho I'm only about 190lbs....I'd just shank his ass

Leon

if i'm not mistaken, redline for both is 7200 rpm.

SooDARK

cool thanks, Thats what I figured, it's just hard to tell since I don't know if my stock tach is exact or not. I shift 1st gear at like 7,200, and it barely keeps it in vtec, but then 2nd I can shift right at like 6,900-7,000 and stay in vtec, then from 3rd to fourth I shift at like 6,700 and it's still wel into vtec. You ever noticed that??

SooDARK

Oh but the confusiong part is that it doesn't hit the limiter till like 7,600. Just feels like lag if I take it that high tho.

JLai

This thread sucks. Hahaha. Point is...$3000 later you car is still slow. Close this shit.

And like I've always said...H22A isn't gonna smack down a 3.0 with the same mods from a roll. From a stop, I dunno cause I haven't tried. But I've run from preludes with the same mods and which are lighter than the CL. And I have those on vid in case you wanna post up the "post up videos" bullshit again. But Fastvteccl taped it, and TurboSupra was following behind me. So you can ask them. :lickit:

So imo... h22a is overhyped and not worth it. You wanna go fast, go buy a new car.

JLai

Oh yea...and btw...Even IF you could get it tuned to run 14s, that shit is still slow. Most cars coming out nowadays run low 14s STOCK if not faster. :P

97CLgenius

60ft time was 2.4 sec (sucks right?)

97CLgenius

lol no biggie, I could just hop on the bike and hit 190 within seconds so speed is not an issue. All I know is the car is a lot more fun to drive!!!

Duece

muahahah my rev limit is 8500 and my first stage is 4.5 and vtec kick ass is at 55. Muahahaha ryan u coming out sat.??

BLACKOUTCL

Exactly

SooDARK

gotrice- just to let you know, an h22 CL mod for mod is quite a bit faster that a 3.0. Me and Cocoa raced numerous times from a roll and he has way more mods than me and he still lost like 5 out of 6 times.. I have CAI, he has e/i/h/p/vafc/tuned BTW-this was to his advantage since I would kill him off the line

BTW-97clgenius should be able to hit 14's without being tuned. I know I could right now with just my CAI. And of course 14's aren't fast as hell, but it's funner to drive like 97 said. And all the new cars you speak of cost a grip. (except srt)

Got rice-Why are you acting like you have a fast car? Just curious. And go ahead and post those vids so we can tell you how shitty the h22 driver was

liloj

my 3.0CL runs 10s and i have 24inch rims, 37 screens, and 10 15" subs in the trunk...

fuck the H22

liloj

and all i have is a kn drop in and a super dooper computer chip

h22turboCL

thats what im talking about

97CLgenius

I have never heard of that, so if you "really" running 10's, prove that shit I gotta see this.

h22turboCL

he playin

liloj

please tell me your joking? and if you are..you shoulda used the smily