attacks once more

 

The thin metal wires in between the cloth like material is attached to the harness and plug which is sewed in and wrapped around the cloth. I'd have to cut it out in order to take out the thin metal wires, which hence would mean you'd have to do the same. When I saw that, I figured it would result in two things:

A. Send out the whole thing with the bottom leather seat.
B. You can always sew (did I spell that right?) it back together when you cut yours out.

 

The big metal wires/elements for the butt can also be removed. But I just wanted to show you what it took to remove it just so that you can see it. It's held on by those metal clips that wrap around it. You can just bend those back and pull out the metal wires/elements.

 

In your first picture - the motor at the very top right - how was this working when you used your seat last? Is it easily removable if in good condition. Mine smokes when the seat moved forward.

Those large squigglies in your second to last picture i think just hold up the seat. I see the heating pad. but what are these?

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...ockseat006.jpg

 

It took about 30 screws/bolts to take this seat apart. It was def a pain.

Anyways, as far as the cylinder motors, did you want both? I have to look at it again to see how they come off. I forgot to take pictures of an angle where you can see how they are connected to the rails.

 

Dont our seats have 2 set temperatures for us to use? I get the feeling those smaller wires for the butt section is for when you set the warmer on the first setting. But then again, that's just my guess, and I forgot to look at my button to see if there were 2 settings.

As for the motor that moves the seat, like I said, it was working fine except for the fact that when it gets moved further back at a certain point, it got slower. But it moved to the back regardless. You can have the part at no cost since I'm uncertain that you'd be satisfied with it.

 

Wait, if the larger metal wires are to hold up the seat, then the ones for the butt section just do the same. If this is the case, then the smaller squiggly lines are what heat up the seat, probably why they are wrapped in that cloth to keep seperated from everything else.

 

There's only one heat setting, the seats have their own heat control built into the heater

 

Again, the smaller squiggly lines are connected to the harness with a plug. So those have to heat up. As for the larger ones, those def are not connected to any plug nor the harness. For some reason I just thought those bigger ones conducted a flow of eletricity somehow, but never thought to think of them as just supports for our weight.

 

I'm at work right now and don't want to get into trouble since I have a lot to do. But I'll continue to help out when I get home after dinner. I think I'm a little more clear as to what's going on in there now.

Have any other concerns or questions?

 

alright i'll take that motor part and the lower seating heating element. Is it possible to get that thing out with out cutting anything at all? No wonder this is a 1000 repair from the dealer i think. I'll get back online tonight when i'm off from work also.

 

Okay, I just looked at it just now. The whitish cloth that holds the wires in place is just being held by the same thing that holds tags on clothing. Do you know what I'm talking about by chance? That little plastic piece that goes through the tag usually on the shirt where it says its size.

So, I guess you could staple it back together, or find another way to clip it back together. As for the harness/plug that goes through the cloth, the cloth itself is actually glue and wrapped around the harness. So what I could do is ship out the cloth together with the wires/harness/plug, and you could decide on how you want to go about replacing what.

As far as I know, anything from this seat is yours for the same price. All I need to know is what you want shipped, and what you want me to pull off or not touch. That I'm leaving totally up to you.

 

I appreciate your flexability. I doubt i'll need any harnesses since my seat already has headed seats installed. Does that bottom element connect cleanly to the harness? If thats the case i'll take the pad and the motor so we aren't shipping a 50 lb box. What are your though.

Are the two elements completely seperate and then connected to a harness?

 

Might as well ask while we are openly discussing this - has anyone every replaced it the heating element in the seat before or the power motor?

 

Yes, the 2 elements are completely seperate and connect to the harness at the bottom. What I can do is, detach everything from the cloth and leave the harness wrapped around it so that we dont cut anything up, and ship it you together. That way all you have to do is take yours out, and find a way to clip/sew this together back on to your seat.

As far as the harness goes, you want me to take off the heater relay and hand you that as well, just in case. And as for the motor, we're talking about the one that moves the seat back and forth correct? Did you need the other two cylinder motors as well? I'm not sure what they do to tell you the truth.

Btw, what I'll do with the wires is roll them up in the same cloth they are in, that way I don't bend any of the wires. So based on the box I'll use, we can stuff in anything else you need. I highly doubt they will add much weight to change the shipping costs that much. That's why I wanted to give you the harness as well, in case that was your original problem with your heating. Are you sure it's the elements that went bad?

 

yeah because my back works, the lower back heating element works just fine. Lets do what you planned above. Get a price and send it to me, i appreciate your work on this.

I only need the motor that moves the seat backwards and forwards, its the one closest to the front of the seat. Does that come out easily or is that a royal pain in the ass also.

 

you been buy here lately?

 

Yea I forgot to ask, did you want me to go ahead and ship it, or just get a quote first? Because you sent me the zip code/cuty/and state but no address.

 

As far as price, I dont see it going over 10-12 bucks. This is light as hell. The only thing that would put it around 10-12 bucks is the size of the box. Just be sure to send me your full info so that I can send it out tomorrow morning before work.

 

how much do i owe you for time and parts? Lets go ahead and ship out what i mentioned above. If for some reason it doesn't work or i need more parts and you have some scraps laying around i'll bother you about it then. I'll pm you my address hit me up with final price and paypal addy.

 

I'll wait for you to receive the parts and install them. If you are satisfied with it, you come up with the price as to what the parts were worth. And we'll go from there. Honestly, I dont know what to charge for those parts. If you need more parts, they'll be here. If what I send out doesnt fix your problem, then consider it free including the shipping for wasting both our times.

 

Let me at least get you for shipping, pm me your paypal account...PLEASE!

 

can someone please pm me his paypal address so i can give him some $

 

Well I havent shipped it out yet, so I didnt want you to paypal me any money for shipping yet, in case you overpay.

 

Tracking number pmed. Give it about a day for the tracking number to work on the UPS website. That's what I've noticed how long it usually takes.

 

Just curious if you received your package and if it was what you were looking for.

 

i'm going to pick it up at ups tomorrow.

If you didn't send it via ups then no i haven't received it yet.

 

I sent it through UPS. Are they holding it for some reason? Why didnt they deliver it to you?

 

it requires a in person signature....i cant do that with my work schedule so i made arrangements to pick it up tomorrow.

 

It came, looks like the parts are going to be perfect.....

How did you get the leather seperated from the foam with out ripping the foam or wrecking those metal clips? it looks impossible to get back on.

 

HAHA i just looked at the heating pad you sent me, the wires were EVERY where, you were right. I borrowed the girlfriends hands and taped them back. I managed to get the pad put back under the leather, and its all put back together. Leather pulled nice and tight, which was a concern for mine. It wasn't easy and your right, there are tons of parts down there. I took pictures to do a DIY, but this really isn't a DIY the more i look at it, nothing a guide would be useful for, but we'll see, now back to the motor you sent me.

How did you get that part off....did you have to use a TORX bit to get them off?

 

Current condition of seat - new pad installed.


First pic of car - 130k miles on that nice white paint.


I'll be posting more after the spring detail

 

I got the heated seat lower pad to work, but i messed up the motor trying to replace it with yours - i think i'm FUCKED.....the seat wont more forward or backwards anymore.

BTW - pm me with a price man

 

That motor, actually once I took the bolts off, it was kind of stuck in place. I couldnt figure out how to take it off without force. And then all of a sudden, when I was moving my hands to tilt it one way to look at it, it just came right off.

As for the seat not wanting to move at all anymore, was it the old motor or the new motor that got messed up? Did you change the motors, or could you not firgure out how to do it?

 

To get to the bolts to take the motor off, I unbolted the rails it attached to.

 

i couldnt' figure out how to change motors so i started taking mine off and i losened the black rod on mine and i think it pop something out of place. Currently the old one is on there. I accidently took yours apart and i'm going to try and put it back together at work today.

Did you take off those TORX bolts to get it loose at least?

 

Not sure what a torx bolt is, but are you talking about the 4 that is on the rod by the rail that connects to the motor? Cause if so, then yes, I took those off. 2 of them came off easily, but the other 2 were a pain because of the angle you have to get them at.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_10664

I'm going to take the seat out again tonite.

The heating pad was all pulled apart, you were right, i had to tape the wires back down. It was even harder to get it back under the leather and then getting the leather back on nice and tight.

Did you get my paypal?

 

Yes I did, says it's pending till next week, no biggie. As for the torx bolts, yes, I took those off.