97BlackAckCL

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racersky

lol but now I'm trying to save for a daily driver which would probably be another CL probably a 97 or 98 if I can get it for cheap.

suprachica79

Yea, when I first got the car, I was happy it was a japanese luxury car, they are my favorite, but I wasn't thrilled with the body style or anything, but I like it more and more everyday

97BlackAckCL

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I just got my new daily driver last night,

suprachica79

Nice. Quick question, how much is it really going to cost to put a turbo in? And, it seems more cost effective to just get an h22, the horsepower is comparable to that of a turbo'ed f22b1

racersky

To be honest it depends if it's custom or not. Even with a bolt-on kit there's something that has to be custom at one point that the kit did not came with. I'm not too familiar with turbing a f- series motor so I can really tell yeah but I can tell you this. For my Civic my Turbo Setup is custom so all the charge pipes, down pipe and so forth is custom mendrel bent for my car. It's running me 300 more or less for my downpipe and i believe 300 more for the rest. All the pipings are also getting polished so I'll have the Chrome look to it. Plus you also have to decide how you want to tune it and what you want to use to get it tuned. For me I'm going to be using Neptune. I could have the choice of using Hondata but then I was recommended not to do so by the Dyno Shop I'm going to go for my car.



Cool what daily driver did you get? I'm trying to get a CL and drop an H22 in it and call it a day.

2.2Clean

That was deep

Blenz

It depends on what your power goals are and what you want your car to be. Here is a link to a thread that you might find useful in comparing the two: http://www.accordinglydone.com/forum...ead.php?t=9432

suprachica79

thx for that thread, it has great arguments for both sides. But a question for you guys that are well into F22's or jsut knowledgeable, how much would it cost to replace all the internals in the f22 and then turbo it? And how much would it cost to get an h22? I'm trying to find out which would be more cost-effective, and which could give more power. How much power would you get from a turbo-ed h22 and how much would u get from a redone turbo'ed f22b1?

suprachica79

Also, what would "replacing the internals" intale? As in specifically what parts would I have to change. The more I read this other thread, the more I lean towards just building up the F22...

suprachica79

o come on guys, don't stop answering now... lol

Palayah8ta

replacing internals, Crankshaft, Piston rings, Pistons, Rods, valves, Spings/retainers, Cam, valve seals, etc..

there used to be a guy who terrorized the forum who got banned, but he built his f22..
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=174125
i wont say his name out loud..

teh CL

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Ayougo

Blenz

You might not need to build the F22b to boost it safely, it depends on how much power you want to make. If you spend a little extra money on giving the motor a great tune, I think it can handle 8 or 10 psi without any problem. Depending on what turbo you run and other components, that would probably put you somewhere around 250whp. The H22a with a few bolt-ons would probably make somewhere around 180whp and cost about the same. Keep in mind that boosting will take alot more planning and could result in alot more headaches than doing a simple engine swap.

suprachica79

well 250whp is more than plenty, I would probably replace some of the components just to make it a more reliable and so im not boosting on a 130k engine that probably wasn't meant to boost lol. What would you suggest to replace when building up the f22 abd what kind of cost are we talking here...

suprachica79

I'd also have noclue where to start rebuilding or what parts would be good to help. I'm going to need some help guys... lol I wihs I could start now and not in a year or 2

97BlackAckCL

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Here's a few pics of my new daily driver, just picked her up Thursday, and love her to death. Certified 100K mile bumper to bumper all inclusive warranty for the win! Got the sport package with the upgraded suspension setup, 6 disc indash changer, 1 touch moon roof, upgraded bucket seats, etc etc. This motor is also great cuz it has the smooth shift with no shift shock and the intelligent valve timing, and high and low 4wd Lemme know what ya think.

suprachica79

nice, gotta love a yota, any words of advice for my rebuild? I still don't know what this is gunna cost me lol

97BlackAckCL

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It'll cost lots, start saving now. Look up ayougo, he did a full rebuild of his f22, he resleaved it, got new pistons, rods, cams, and a bunch of other work getting ready for his turbo, also you can find him on honda-tech.com still. Also look for some of shineynitelite's (honda2x23)'s posts on here, he posted some links of full f22 rebuild kits, there's also a site can't remember off the top of my head, it's an f22 accord motor part site, had a look of good stuff too

suprachica79

thx man, huge help!

Cocoa

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My input: Be the first to throw in the K20A...

suprachica79

wat car does that come from and how much power? and cost

racersky

Do they even make motor mounts that would fit the CL?

Cocoa

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Intergra Type R from Japan. 210hp and with LSD. The gear ratio is pretty short as well.

Cocoa

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They make them for the 5th gen Accords. If they dont work, you can always go with custom ones.

suprachica79

how much would that cost? I'd like to stay with the f22 just because it was made for a heavy car, unlike the one your talking about i'm sure...

suprachica79

just looked at the f20b engine, seems like a good engine but I hear there aren't any aftermarket parts...

Cocoa

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That's an S2K engine. It won't work with our cars unless you go RWD and throw a ton of money into it.

suprachica79

i heard it was the accord euro-r engine... if it was an s2k engine wouldnt it have alot of aftermarket potential?

AznX TL

k24block with k20a head ftw

AznX TL

you're looking at new differentials and a whole bunch of other shit, it'd be cheaper to buy a s2k

suprachica79

haha, yea, I'm pretty much set on just rebuilding up the f22 and then boosting it but I still don't even know where to begin, what parts are good or not, and how much its going to cost me. I don't like surprises that have to do with my money lol

Blenz

You're right, it is the accord euro-r engine. You're also right about the f22b being a better motor for pulling a heavy car, it puts out good torque numbers when under boost.
If you plan on boosting your f22, you should decide how much power you want to make before spending a whole bunch on internal work. The motor already has a cast iron sleeved block that is very capable of holding boost. It's also very inexpensive to replace a stock f22b if you were to fuck it up in it's stock form. If you are looking for 250 whp or less, you are probably safe boosting it stock. A good tune is more important than upgraded internals in my opinion.
Also, if you don't like surprizes that have to do with your money, putting a turbo in any car that isn't designed for forced induction might not be the best plan. Things can and will go wrong when piecing everything together so don't be too surpized when it happens.

suprachica79

Yea, I am not looking for power much more than that 250 whp mark but I want my engine to be sound and not worry about it blowing on boost. I figure I don't have to replace everything but some major components that would work better with the turbo might be a good idea. I definately want to get a great tune up, I just still don't know exactly what I need to do the tun up, I really need to learn about engines in general before I attempt to pull one out lol

ShavedH22CL

I have alot of friends that go to school in mass, what college are you going to. Also URI has the best pharmacy program in the United states. I have a few friends in that program.

Cocoa

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Shit, so is the s2k engine a f20c? I fucking forget...

suprachica79

I think the s2k is the f20c like you said, not positive tho.

Shaved-I'm going to Mass. College of Pharmacy and I have been told by many older pharmacists that work with interns that my college turns out the best pharmacists by farover any other college, which includes Uconn, Albany, St. Joe's and URI. We have the best program in the U.S and are the first School in Boston and First pharmacy school in the country.