How to Drain/Fill Tranny
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How to Drain/Fill Tranny
Can someone give me detail step by step on how to drain/fill honda atf, on a 2.2/2.3cl?
I just ordered a shitload of honda atf, and i'll send you a few bottles if you can give me detailed instructions with pictures. And for everyone else, i coulda sworn dustbuster4 had details but i can't find it. Is it bad to keep draining/filling? I just want to get the non atf out of there once and for all.
CLpower where are you?
I just ordered a shitload of honda atf, and i'll send you a few bottles if you can give me detailed instructions with pictures. And for everyone else, i coulda sworn dustbuster4 had details but i can't find it. Is it bad to keep draining/filling? I just want to get the non atf out of there once and for all.
CLpower where are you?
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pull the drain plug, then fill it thru the dipstick hole..im sure thats where you fill it on the 2.x remember to fill and check the fluid with the car not running.. remember NOT RUNNING. or you will over fill it.
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Originally Posted by wilp99
pull the drain plug, then fill it thru the dipstick hole..im sure thats where you fill it on the 2.x remember to fill and check the fluid with the car not running.. remember NOT RUNNING. or you will over fill it.
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I don't think dustbuster4 ever made a DIY w/pics, perhaps you were thinking of installing the tranny cooler?
Anyway, there should be a bolt labeled "ATF" on the back side of the transmission, underneath the air tube. Make sure you remove this bolt first before you start to drain or else you'll have to fill through the dipstick.
To flush:
Drain the fluid
pour in about 3+ quarts
Drive 50 miles
Drain fluid
Pour in about 3+ quarts
Drive 50 miles
Drain fluid
Pour in about 3+ quarts and top it off.
Anyway, there should be a bolt labeled "ATF" on the back side of the transmission, underneath the air tube. Make sure you remove this bolt first before you start to drain or else you'll have to fill through the dipstick.
To flush:
Drain the fluid
pour in about 3+ quarts
Drive 50 miles
Drain fluid
Pour in about 3+ quarts
Drive 50 miles
Drain fluid
Pour in about 3+ quarts and top it off.
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im pretty sure the 2.x's dont have the fill plug.. thier dipstick has a big bottom on it bout 1" round and goes directly into the tranny, and not thru a tube.. i know on the 3.0's we have the plug and the tube.. however i could be wrong cause im basing my info on a 94 accord non vtec. so if im wrong my bad.
also you really dont have to go anywhere to get the fluid pushed thru the tranny. just go thru all the gears...park reverse neutral d4 d3 2 (which puts your car directly into 2nd gear, and will not downshift to 1st) then 1 which is obviously 1st gear. but seing that you just recently put fresh fluid in, just a drain and fill will be aiit.
also you really dont have to go anywhere to get the fluid pushed thru the tranny. just go thru all the gears...park reverse neutral d4 d3 2 (which puts your car directly into 2nd gear, and will not downshift to 1st) then 1 which is obviously 1st gear. but seing that you just recently put fresh fluid in, just a drain and fill will be aiit.
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Originally Posted by wilp99
im pretty sure the 2.x's dont have the fill plug.. thier dipstick has a big bottom on it bout 1" round and goes directly into the tranny, and not thru a tube.. i know on the 3.0's we have the plug and the tube.. however i could be wrong cause im basing my info on a 94 accord non vtec. so if im wrong my bad.
also you really dont have to go anywhere to get the fluid pushed thru the tranny. just go thru all the gears...park reverse neutral d4 d3 2 (which puts your car directly into 2nd gear, and will not downshift to 1st) then 1 which is obviously 1st gear. but seing that you just recently put fresh fluid in, just a drain and fill will be aiit.
also you really dont have to go anywhere to get the fluid pushed thru the tranny. just go thru all the gears...park reverse neutral d4 d3 2 (which puts your car directly into 2nd gear, and will not downshift to 1st) then 1 which is obviously 1st gear. but seing that you just recently put fresh fluid in, just a drain and fill will be aiit.
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Also wilp, you think I should drain/fill once? I have 3 qts of non honda atf in there, would draining and filling once take most of it out? Im so confused
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I dont mind doing it 3 times, it just the driving 50 miles thing was kinda bugging me out. Is that really necessary? Doesn't the tranny fluid move just as much driving 5 miles, then 50 miles? I dont see what the difference is...
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LEVEL CHECKING
NOTE: Check the fluid level with the engine at normal operating temperature (the radiator fan comes on).
Park the vehicle on level ground. Turn off the engine.
Remove the dipstick (yellow loop) from the transmission, and wipe it with a clean cloth.
Insert the dipstick into the transmission.
Remove the dipstick and check the fluid level. It should be between the upper and lower marks.
If the level is below the lower mark, add fluid into the filler hole to bring it to the upper mark. Always use Honda premium Formula Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATF) . If it is not available, you may use Dexron II or III automatic transmission fluid as a temporary replacement. However, continued use can affect shift quality. Drain the transmission and refill with Honda ATF as soon as it is convenient.
Insert the dipstick back into the transmission.
CHANGING Fluid
Bring the transmission up to normal operating temperature (the radiator fan comes on) by driving the vehicle. Park the vehicle on level ground, turn the engine off, and then remove the drain plug.
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Reinstall the drain plug with a new sealing washer, then refill the transmission to the upper mark on the dipstick.
Automatic Transmission Fluid Capacity: 2.4 ltr. (2.5 US qt.) at changing
6.0 ltr. (6.3 US qt.) at overhaul
Hope this helps...
NOTE: Check the fluid level with the engine at normal operating temperature (the radiator fan comes on).
Park the vehicle on level ground. Turn off the engine.
Remove the dipstick (yellow loop) from the transmission, and wipe it with a clean cloth.
Insert the dipstick into the transmission.
Remove the dipstick and check the fluid level. It should be between the upper and lower marks.
If the level is below the lower mark, add fluid into the filler hole to bring it to the upper mark. Always use Honda premium Formula Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATF) . If it is not available, you may use Dexron II or III automatic transmission fluid as a temporary replacement. However, continued use can affect shift quality. Drain the transmission and refill with Honda ATF as soon as it is convenient.
Insert the dipstick back into the transmission.
CHANGING Fluid
Bring the transmission up to normal operating temperature (the radiator fan comes on) by driving the vehicle. Park the vehicle on level ground, turn the engine off, and then remove the drain plug.
Reinstall the drain plug with a new sealing washer, then refill the transmission to the upper mark on the dipstick.
Automatic Transmission Fluid Capacity: 2.4 ltr. (2.5 US qt.) at changing
6.0 ltr. (6.3 US qt.) at overhaul
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#18
Originally Posted by r0dxx
So you guys think I should bring it to the shop with the fluid, or do this at my friends house tommorow?
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besides... the shop charges like 80 bucks to do it probably
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Originally Posted by legendaryCL98
do it at your friends house tomorrow
besides... the shop charges like 80 bucks to do it probably
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besides... the shop charges like 80 bucks to do it probably
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Alright it seems pretty easy, the driving around and refill through the dip stick with a funnel. Do I have to jack up the car?
Also do I have to replace washer every single time, or can I just put it on the last final drain/fill? And what size washer I need? Can anyone take a picture today of exactly what I need to remove, which bolt to drain it out? Sorry that diagram a little confusing.
Also do I have to replace washer every single time, or can I just put it on the last final drain/fill? And what size washer I need? Can anyone take a picture today of exactly what I need to remove, which bolt to drain it out? Sorry that diagram a little confusing.
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BAWB, by the way thanks for that informative post the diagram is a little hard to understand but i appreciate all the info. Let me know if you need any honda atf to do a drain/fill ill ship some out to ya!
And whoever else can help out with a nice picture of the bolt from 2.2/2.3...
And whoever else can help out with a nice picture of the bolt from 2.2/2.3...
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Dude...dont refill through the dip stick. You know what a motor looks like, right? Well, take another look at your car. Look for your tranny. It is attached to the block. Now, somewhere on top of your tranny, by the block, there must be a big bolt that says ATF on it. You can't miss it. I'd tell you where it was, but I have the 3.0 I've done this plenty of times, easy job.
As for the driving around for 50 miles, if you want, you can have you car up on jack stands, and run it through all gears. That's what I do, but I wouldn't recommend it if this is your first time doing this.
I'll try and get my fried over with his 2.3 CL, and I'll look for the ATF bolt for you to refill from. Calling him as we speak.
As for the driving around for 50 miles, if you want, you can have you car up on jack stands, and run it through all gears. That's what I do, but I wouldn't recommend it if this is your first time doing this.
I'll try and get my fried over with his 2.3 CL, and I'll look for the ATF bolt for you to refill from. Calling him as we speak.
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Originally Posted by Cocoa
Dude...dont refill through the dip stick. You know what a motor looks like, right? Well, take another look at your car. Look for your tranny. It is attached to the block. Now, somewhere on top of your tranny, by the block, there must be a big bolt that says ATF on it. You can't miss it. I'd tell you where it was, but I have the 3.0 I've done this plenty of times, easy job.
As for the driving around for 50 miles, if you want, you can have you car up on jack stands, and run it through all gears. That's what I do, but I wouldn't recommend it if this is your first time doing this.
I'll try and get my fried over with his 2.3 CL, and I'll look for the ATF bolt for you to refill from. Calling him as we speak.
As for the driving around for 50 miles, if you want, you can have you car up on jack stands, and run it through all gears. That's what I do, but I wouldn't recommend it if this is your first time doing this.
I'll try and get my fried over with his 2.3 CL, and I'll look for the ATF bolt for you to refill from. Calling him as we speak.
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Im not too familiar with this engine but by the looks of the diagram I would say the drain plug seems to be on the passenger side right behind the cv boot. If you look down towards your motor block between your intake, and your strut towers its fairly visible. What gave mine away was the aluminum crush washer :o
I am lazy today and didnt feel like taking the tire off just to snap a pic.
I am lazy today and didnt feel like taking the tire off just to snap a pic.
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Ok, I hope you still need these and they are good enough to help. I know the quality sucks, but you can still make out what it is.
This one is the drain plug. Just use a socket wrench (I think that's the name). The drain plug is in the center of this pic. You don't need any attachments since it's just a square thing. The picture is take from the passanger side. You can see the drivers side wheel there.
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/Motohip/picture4.jpg)
This picture is taken from the front of the car, facing the back. You can see the large radiator hose on the left of the picture. The yellow dip stick is way down in there and it's in the center of the pic.
This one is the drain plug. Just use a socket wrench (I think that's the name). The drain plug is in the center of this pic. You don't need any attachments since it's just a square thing. The picture is take from the passanger side. You can see the drivers side wheel there.
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/Motohip/picture4.jpg)
This picture is taken from the front of the car, facing the back. You can see the large radiator hose on the left of the picture. The yellow dip stick is way down in there and it's in the center of the pic.
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The 2.3 engine tranny has a pipe plug facing the right wheel. There is a washer on it. The washer should be changed at every drain but I reused it before with no problem. This transmission does get filled from the dipstick in the lower front of
the engine.
the engine.
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I want to thank everyone in this thread for helping, right or wrong answers it all helped
Moto, thank you very much for the pics, i already found it by the time i saw your post, but none the less good pics for future reference for anyone else who "searches".
BAWB, thank you for posting that diagram, made it real easy to find the drain plug.
I was surprised how easy it was, once we got the car jacked up and on stands the whole process took maybe 15-20 minutes. I drained and filled 3 times. I used a funnel to pour the ATF into the dip stick hole. I drove it around town for about 10 minutes each time, and went through all the gears when I got back to my friends garage about 5 times (1,2,3,4,n,r,p) up and down, up and down, etc. I hope that didn't wear anything out
hehe. Then we waited about 25-30 minutes and did it again with the car still pretty hot.
I used a 7 quart tub i got at the store, and let it drain into that, then filled up milk jugs and the empty bottles, where do i put it lol?
The last drain i looked in the tub and I saw some kinda little things, It looked like metal shavings, i dont know what thats from?!?!?!?!?!? I hope its not bad...
All in all in only took a few hours, and with my good friends help it was pretty fun. I still have 4 qts, left over from the 12, so i used about 8 full quarts.
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Moto, thank you very much for the pics, i already found it by the time i saw your post, but none the less good pics for future reference for anyone else who "searches".
BAWB, thank you for posting that diagram, made it real easy to find the drain plug.
I was surprised how easy it was, once we got the car jacked up and on stands the whole process took maybe 15-20 minutes. I drained and filled 3 times. I used a funnel to pour the ATF into the dip stick hole. I drove it around town for about 10 minutes each time, and went through all the gears when I got back to my friends garage about 5 times (1,2,3,4,n,r,p) up and down, up and down, etc. I hope that didn't wear anything out
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I used a 7 quart tub i got at the store, and let it drain into that, then filled up milk jugs and the empty bottles, where do i put it lol?
The last drain i looked in the tub and I saw some kinda little things, It looked like metal shavings, i dont know what thats from?!?!?!?!?!? I hope its not bad...
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All in all in only took a few hours, and with my good friends help it was pretty fun. I still have 4 qts, left over from the 12, so i used about 8 full quarts.
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Originally Posted by Motohip
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Oh and for anyone else, make sure you wear gloves. I had itchy hands for days cause of those metal shavings.
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Oh and for anyone else, make sure you wear gloves. I had itchy hands for days cause of those metal shavings.
Ya I didnt wear gloves, it was kinda funny...My friend took the plug off the first time and his whole shirt got splashed with tranny fluid
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I only drove it around for like 5-10 miles but I made sure I went through every gear a few times, does the tranny fluid circulate alot when you drive it?
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was there any metal shavings on the drain plug.. its magnetic, and collects most of the crap.. also did you wipe off the drain plug before you put it back in to get all the grey goo off.(which is actually metal but safe metal)
i thought there was a big ass hole where the dipstick went in. but like i said earlier that was on my friends 94 accord. glad to see you saved your self 80$.. its rediculous how much money you save by doin some things your self.
i thought there was a big ass hole where the dipstick went in. but like i said earlier that was on my friends 94 accord. glad to see you saved your self 80$.. its rediculous how much money you save by doin some things your self.
#37
Originally Posted by wilp99
was there any metal shavings on the drain plug.. its magnetic, and collects most of the crap.. also did you wipe off the drain plug before you put it back in to get all the grey goo off.(which is actually metal but safe metal)
i thought there was a big ass hole where the dipstick went in. but like i said earlier that was on my friends 94 accord. glad to see you saved your self 80$.. its rediculous how much money you save by doin some things your self.
i thought there was a big ass hole where the dipstick went in. but like i said earlier that was on my friends 94 accord. glad to see you saved your self 80$.. its rediculous how much money you save by doin some things your self.
I didnt see any grey goo on the drain plug it looked clean... where do i dispose all the old fluid? I got it sitting in my trunk still
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Most auto parts stores recycle used fluids. I am lucky enough to have an uncle that uses used oil for his garage furnace, so he's always happy when I show up.
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A few more things...
I checked the fluid today started the car, ran for 3 minutes and turned it off and checked the fluid. It was right up to the last X on the X's.
BUT, I checked it after driving for like 15-20min, and it was over X's, like past the top X, is this ok?
Also I'm a little confused...I read this guys how-to on drain/fill and its a little different:
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1173748
(It's a few posts down) But I didn't go through all the gears like he does, and I didn't go 20mph in reverse (thats crazy) I didnt even go in reverse at all except for back out of the driveway. I'm kinda concerned that I didnt circulate the fluid enough to get the old stuff out, maybe I just kept drain/filling BRAND NEW fluid.
And he says to do it 4 Times, should I do it another time? I only did it 3 times...Car seems to be shifting harsh...
Do you guys think I got most of the BAD NON HONDA fluid out? Or should I do it again in a few weeks? Or now?
I checked the fluid today started the car, ran for 3 minutes and turned it off and checked the fluid. It was right up to the last X on the X's.
BUT, I checked it after driving for like 15-20min, and it was over X's, like past the top X, is this ok?
Also I'm a little confused...I read this guys how-to on drain/fill and its a little different:
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1173748
(It's a few posts down) But I didn't go through all the gears like he does, and I didn't go 20mph in reverse (thats crazy) I didnt even go in reverse at all except for back out of the driveway. I'm kinda concerned that I didnt circulate the fluid enough to get the old stuff out, maybe I just kept drain/filling BRAND NEW fluid.
And he says to do it 4 Times, should I do it another time? I only did it 3 times...Car seems to be shifting harsh...
Do you guys think I got most of the BAD NON HONDA fluid out? Or should I do it again in a few weeks? Or now?
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Wow, that is a lot of trouble. I think I just pay my bro to do it... He can put it on the lift, and we can go through the gears without having to move the car. Up and down to jacks that many times would get old. I still like the filler machine. It puts new fluid in the cool side and takes old out of the warm side. Can be done in about 20 minutes from lift to touchdown.