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Old 01-26-2003 | 03:06 PM
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HID question

i'm looking at a set of oem hid from a lexus is300. the bulbs are D2R. will these bulbs fit into our 9006/9005 housing?

thanks in advance.
Old 01-26-2003 | 04:15 PM
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If I were you I would try and talk to VXCL, he did his own custom setup for HID'S.
Old 01-26-2003 | 04:18 PM
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I have OEM lexus HIDs in my housings, htey take some minor modifications but they work great
Old 01-26-2003 | 06:31 PM
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thanks for replying. i will probably be too lazy to do any custome work, especially i'd have to remove the bumper cover to get to the headlight unit. i ll probably get the oem kit and see wut i can do with it. again thanks for the head ups.
Old 01-26-2003 | 07:08 PM
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1. u will have to modify ur housing so that the bulb wont fall out,
2. the d2r is made for a reflector so it is better suited for our oem housing they have a coating on them so that u wont blind on comming traffic as opposed to a d2s bulb that is made for a hid projector like this



3. most ppl prefer to use a d2s bulb cuz it is brighter, but u will most likely have to aim ur lights pretty low so u dont blind people or even get pulled over
Old 01-26-2003 | 07:35 PM
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mine are aimed so low that i can just see my high beams past my hood
Old 03-06-2003 | 06:46 PM
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i'm happy to let everyone know that i got my hid up and running nicely. it was easy to fit the d2r bulb into the 9006 housing, but getting it to focus without having the beam scatter everywhere was a pain in the butt, but i'm happy that i finally got the beams on both side to focus nicely. i ll take some picture when its darker.

hid pic during the day
http://illuasian.hypermart.net/cl/hid.jpg

all car pix
http://illuasian.hypermart.net/cl/

coming soon
http://illuasian.hypermart.net/cl/wood.jpg
Old 03-06-2003 | 07:23 PM
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kinda looks like this




let me know if u ever want to convert, otherwise good job and hopefully u dont get harrased by the cops
Old 03-06-2003 | 08:27 PM
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Thats not entirely true. Granted the D2R bulbs are coated on certain points to keep glare down they only function in reflector type housings made for HID. Our housings our halogen so our bulbs are sheilded differently then HID bulbs. So by getting D2R bulbs the wrong spot will be sheilded in our housing giving you dark spots. This is all info i learned from the philips lighting forum which is very very helpful and is full of very knowledgable people. You should get D2S bulbs

Originally posted by VXCL
2. the d2r is made for a reflector so it is better suited for our oem housing they have a coating on them so that u wont blind on comming traffic as opposed to a d2s bulb that is made for a hid projector like this
Old 03-06-2003 | 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by 1StGenCL
Thats not entirely true. Granted the D2R bulbs are coated on certain points to keep glare down they only function in reflector type housings made for HID. Our housings our halogen so our bulbs are sheilded differently then HID bulbs. So by getting D2R bulbs the wrong spot will be sheilded in our housing giving you dark spots. This is all info i learned from the philips lighting forum which is very very helpful and is full of very knowledgable people. You should get D2S bulbs
that is true, but with a d2s u will probably have to aim them so low not to blind others like blacura stated. either way d2r or d2s in a halogen housing isnt the way to go and depending upon the cops in ur area, u will more than likely have problems. casper has had his for less than a month and already they are all over him.
Old 03-06-2003 | 10:20 PM
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Yeah sorry, I have to agree with getting the d2s if you had a choice. The shield on the d2r just isn't right for our headlight housing. The d2s, although made for the projectors, would scatter less light around. The beam pattern, I believe, out of the d2s for us would be a cleaner pattern. Just my .02
Old 03-06-2003 | 10:52 PM
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again the only real prob is how bright they are vs the law enforcement in your area. i would buy d2s if i wasnt going to do it right. the light output is far superior hands down but again a d2r although light output wont be as good, will help keep you out of trouble for the most part. thats all i meant.
Old 03-06-2003 | 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by VXCL
again the only real prob is how bright they are vs the law enforcement in your area. i would buy d2s if i wasnt going to do it right. the light output is far superior hands down but again a d2r although light output wont be as good, will help keep you out of trouble for the most part. thats all i meant.
Ok I agree then
Old 03-07-2003 | 01:42 AM
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How much would you charge me to make an HID kit and ship it to Tx for me VXCL, if i get the headlights?
Old 03-07-2003 | 02:13 AM
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Hey guys, I was checking out this website where they have the Super Xenons. What do you think of their 6000K lights? Does it compare to what VXCL's custom HID would do? And VXCL, you never told me what I needed man..I'm still very interested. I was so frustrated and anxious that I actually bought some hyper whites today. Well..they happen to have it at my store and w/my discount, i got em for $13..so i decided to give it a try. Although its brighter than the stock ones..still not blue enough and im not too satisfied..so im gonna return em. But let me know man..
Old 03-07-2003 | 02:57 AM
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Hey guys, I was checking out this website where they have the Super Xenons. What do you think of their 6000K lights? Does it compare to what VXCL's custom HID would do? And VXCL, you never told me what I needed man..I'm still very interested. I was so frustrated and anxious that I actually bought some hyper whites today. Well..they happen to have it at my store and w/my discount, i got em for $13..so i decided to give it a try. Although its brighter than the stock ones..still not blue enough and im not too satisfied..so im gonna return em. But let me know man..
my .02

I wouldn't buy from them just because of past discussions on this forum with the guy that works there(i guess) that is on this board. He clearly didn't know some vital information and when he was nicely corrected, started to get really angry and argued long and hard with other forum members. That blacklisted that company for me right there.
Old 03-07-2003 | 03:35 AM
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Yea, one of the questions I asked him was if I went upto 6000K, would i lose lighting because of our stock lamps? I believe i read about that here. He replied to my email saying that the 6000K would be the best way to go, but didn't really answer about losing light. But on this site, http://www.dreamtrade.com/cgi-bin/ya...num=1046225872 , it shows a RAV4 w/the 6000K lights, and they seem pretty bright. I would imagine that the Rav's lamps would be similar to ours, right? I'm still learning here..so im just throwing stuff around..correct me if i'm wrong.
Old 03-07-2003 | 11:35 AM
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cl22 sorry. i get pmed likw crazy, i was unaware i didnt answer ur questions. right now im tryin to get a hookup back home for xenon parts. if i do and i can supply parts, i might able to drop my install price to $100 instead of $150. and have xenon projectors avail for $150- 175 a pair. any return shipping other than standard u will have to pay difference. overnight is MAD expensive. i would reccomend 2-3day.

u basically need 4 things
-xenon projectors
-oem bmw. audi, (d2s system)
-pair of d2s bulbs
-relay with fuse/ and some wire

if u need pics ill try to dog up some. just pm me ill be gald to help. as far as 6000k bulbs im pretty sure that is the highest temp ratin for a true hid capsule (meanin the gas is doin the color temp) not a bulb coating like 8000k 10000k etc stuff. i would have to agree if u put a d2s bulb in ur halogen dont get a 4300 cuz u wont like it. it will be pure white and maybe yellow. it would have best light quality, but wont look COOL. no matter what hid route u go it should be better than ur halogen was.
Old 03-07-2003 | 11:38 AM
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oh yeah there is 4300k bulbs coated to look like 6000k so watch for that.
Old 03-07-2003 | 11:46 AM
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Ok, so basically I have to find all those things on those list and send them to you and you put it together and send it back? How much do you think those would cost? So whats my final price outcome i'm looking at? And also, you think those 6000K lights would be bright enough, and cool enough as your HID conversion? Thanks man.

PS. Would those 6000K bulbs be too hot for our system, even though they say that it runs cooler than the stock, and lasts longer?? than our stock bulbs?
Old 03-07-2003 | 11:58 AM
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all hid bulbs only use bout 4 amps (35 watt) once they are warmed up so they use a lot less power than a halogen. for example, my hid dont dim at idle cuz of my aem pullies. also the temp inside the bulb gets very hot, but thats bout it. that intense heat really doesnt carry over to other parts of the headlight. nothin i used for my setups has melted yet. and considering the housings alone will melt at 300 degrees. in a projector a 4300k bulb looks anywhere from white to blue to purple to yellow at diff angles. for the most part white purple to others, but pure white on the road. oem bulbs on bmws and audi are 4300k. yes i think 6000k would be bright enough and it will be a blue white, maybe some purple. oh yeah the kelvin temp ratin is just the color of light not temp of the bulb. dont worry about bulb temp. they should all be about the same f0r the most part.

well at norm ebay prices
projectors go for bout $200
hid ballasts and bulbs for for bout $250
install from me 100-150
shipping ?

so figure when its all said and done $600, but if i can supply the parts i can prob get it down by $100. and i have seen projectors gor for $150 and ballats for $175 so it really depends on whats out there.

no kit for $400 can compete with a true projector setup, not to mention no cop will bother you and it looks like an audi or bmw at night. im leavin for nj in couple mins, ill finish my setup and take lots of pics for u! give me like 3 days.
Old 03-07-2003 | 12:11 PM
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Hmm..soo tempting..but $5-600 is more than what I wan't to spend on lights right now. Gotta pay around $350 a month for car note + insurance alone. But i'll def keep this option open. Can't wait to see your finished setup man. Goodluck.
Old 03-07-2003 | 09:30 PM
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I figure, for a set of philip ballasts and bulbs rated at 6000k, you are looking at 450. That's actually a good price for them too. So that is pretty high up too compared to vxcl's 5-6.

Anyways, you're not really losing light so to speak when you go higher in the kelvin scale. You are actually losing usable light. So 4300k, although I agree with vxcl on that the 4300k in our OEM setup would look white/yellow, would put out the best usable light for you. While 6000k would still give you very nice lighting, it would also give you more of a HIDish color.

VXCL, I was trying to figure out if I could get a second set of headlight fixtures so that you can do the install on that one...that way I still have my OEM lights for when I trade in/sell this car. How are see-fu's prices? The 800 kit seems a bit high, but not if it includes hid kit and projector install?
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