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Old 06-14-2008, 07:54 PM
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Help with 3.0cl PLEASE!!!!

Hello everyone. Thanks ahead of time for your help.

My brother has a 1997 acura 3.0cl that he blew the motor of (still ran but with a rod knock).

I had a buddy of mine put another motor from the same year and same model into his car. Now the problem is that the car cranks over but wont start!! I did get the motor to start by putting fuel straight into the intake manifold and of course once the fuel burned out the car shut off.

This is the list of things in checked....

-The car has spark.
-It does have fuel and is seems to be getting to the fuel rail.
-I put the fuel pressure regulator from the old motor in and still nothing.
-I went and bought a brand new main relay from the dealership today and still nothing( if anyone wants to buy it lmk i paid $80 for it let it go for $50 shipped).
-Checked all the fuses.
-Checked that he plugged everything along with the grounds.
-There is power to the injectors.

What could it be!!!
Old 06-14-2008, 10:07 PM
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Can you hear the fuel pump in the rear when turning it over to accessories?

I read that your injectors are getting fuel, but I just want to be 100% certain on that so I can rule it out.
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Check out the 3rd post. It has a lot of helpful information for you to try out.

http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/cars-tr...das-46563.html
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Originally Posted by Cocoa
Can you hear the fuel pump in the rear when turning it over to accessories?

I read that your injectors are getting fuel, but I just want to be 100% certain on that so I can rule it out.
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clogged fuel filter maybe? Id check the fuel pressure before doing anything else.
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how many miles were on the blown motor...and how was it blown exactly?

thnx
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The blown motor had about 110k. I dont know how it blew to tell you the truth.

Tron, thanks i will check the pressure. What is it supposed to be at with these cars?
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wow!! 110k? ...thats kinda scary for a j30...do yo know if it was abused?
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Originally Posted by iraqiyl
wow!! 110k? ...thats kinda scary for a j30...do yo know if it was abused?
lol, it blew at 110k. may not have been abused but obv wasn't taken care of.
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maybe no oil change?...
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My girlfriend had the car for a year with no problems. In that year that she had it i changed the oil every 3k along with the oil filter.

I also changed the the plugs, air filter and the egr valve that was clogged. So while i had the car it was taken care of. My brother only had the car for 2 weeks and he says it just started to make noises which ended up being what i believe (i didn't hear the noise in person this is going by what he said) a rod knock.

The oil was at the exact level its supposed to be at after the motor was blown.
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Originally Posted by Turb0wned
My girlfriend had the car for a year with no problems. In that year that she had it i changed the oil every 3k along with the oil filter.

I also changed the the plugs, air filter and the egr valve that was clogged. So while i had the car it was taken care of. My brother only had the car for 2 weeks and he says it just started to make noises which ended up being what i believe (i didn't hear the noise in person this is going by what he said) a rod knock.

The oil was at the exact level its supposed to be at after the motor was blown.
Either she or your brother are lying to you. J30 is a tank of a motor, you've gotta do some f'ed up stuff to blow it.
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Well It Could Of Been The Years Before They Got A Handle Of It...if The Car
Never Lived Below 5 Rpm For 5-10 + Years Its Possible The Engine Was Damaged...im Suspecting The Oil Though Before You Guys Had It
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Originally Posted by DaInFaMMuS1
Either she or your brother are lying to you. J30 is a tank of a motor, you've gotta do some f'ed up stuff to blow it.
How would my girlfriend be lying to me? Im the one that did the work to the car.
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its surely a tank,the way many of us treat it...''like we stole it'' lol im amazed it doesnt blow easily
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The pressure should be 210 - 250 kPa (2.1 - 2.6 kgf/cm2, 30 - 37 psi.) Be sure to relieve the fuel pressure before attaching the gauge. If you need help on how to check the pressure let me know. Good luck.
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*the pressure above was for the 2.2 . for the 3.0 the pressure should be 250 - 300 kPa (2.6 - 3.1 kgf/cm2, 37-44 psi)
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Ok Thanks tron ill let you know how it goes.
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