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08-14-2003, 12:25 AM
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Does anyone have pics of thier H22 swaps? or has it been done yet? cuz i really would like to see what it looks like if thats not to much. Im Out! ONE LOVE!!
08-14-2003, 07:18 AM
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Big Block DOHC Type-R
I have a type-R h22 in mine but Im not sure how to post pics. Some other guy on here has one with a tubo on it. Damn thing is sick as hell! F22 motors are completely gutless compared to h22s. Accord and Cl h22 swaps are just about the easyest swaps to do. The Cl engine bay has more room than Preludes or Accords. Its the perfect match of luxury and power.
08-14-2003, 08:08 AM
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It comes out of the Euro-R Accords 98-01. 220hp 165ft lbs. torque. It also has the shortest gear ratios of any h22 tranny plus its got LSD. Like all type-R motors it has 11.1 compression. The sucker sounds burly with that high of compression. I didnt know when I bought it but the Mugen header for h22s runs down and eliminates the cat. Running no cat can get kinda loud especialy whe it hits Vtec. F'n thing screams! H22s have the best sounding Vtec changeover of all Honda motors. Put it this way, if you have a Prelude or V6 Honda you beter have some kind of forced induction or your gettin smashed on.
08-14-2003, 08:32 AM
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isn't that just the Type S motor? I've driven a civic w/ that motor and it's sweet, but still could use some work
08-14-2003, 09:33 AM
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Its similar to the type-S but better. The type-S has 153ft lbs torque. Euro-Rs have 165 ft lbs torque. Also Euro-Rs have 17 percent shorter gear ratios than any H22 trannys, even the type-S. The Euro-R is the simply the best H22 you can buy. Considering the Euro-R Accord runs about $30K, it better have a bad ass motor!
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08-14-2003, 09:54 AM
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That badboy ran me just over $4k. Good luck finding one. Euro-R H22s only came in European type-R accords 98-02. They also came in the Torenos(the name for Euro market TLs) You will find every other type of H22 ten times over before one of these Euro units comes around.
P.S. hey Ghander, what year is the Civic that had the type-S in it? Does he use the stock ECU. Anything 99 and up that I know of has a keycode on the ECU.
P.S. hey Ghander, what year is the Civic that had the type-S in it? Does he use the stock ECU. Anything 99 and up that I know of has a keycode on the ECU.
08-14-2003, 10:01 AM
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4G's! F that, for 2grand i could buy a regular h22 and with the extra 2 you could almost turbo the bitch. Or just buy enough bolt ons to spank the euro version by 5 cars!
ps-i'm just jealous!
ps-i'm just jealous!
08-14-2003, 10:47 AM
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Yes thats very true. I like all motor Hondas alot and if I ever sold the car I would probably keep the type-R motor and put a regular H22 in it. I want to get an EK civic and put my type-R in it. That setup will run 12s all day. I have a 91 si civic w/b16. I would like to tubo that more than my CL. Nothing runs faster than hatchbacks w/motorswaps just because of the power to weight ratio. Ill tell you what, it would cost you a bit more than 4k to build a turbo system w/h22 setup. Something thats actually reliable and operates efficiently anyways. My CL is my daily driver for now until my Civic is finished. You will find that even a regular OBD1 Prelude H22 has a good amount of power to start with on its own. I realy dont understand why our cars came with that shitty single cam motor.
08-14-2003, 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by Mark Davison
P.S. hey Ghander, what year is the Civic that had the type-S in it? Does he use the stock ECU. Anything 99 and up that I know of has a keycode on the ECU.
P.S. hey Ghander, what year is the Civic that had the type-S in it? Does he use the stock ECU. Anything 99 and up that I know of has a keycode on the ECU.
08-14-2003, 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by Mark Davison
Yes thats very true. I like all motor Hondas alot and if I ever sold the car I would probably keep the type-R motor and put a regular H22 in it. I want to get an EK civic and put my type-R in it. That setup will run 12s all day. I have a 91 si civic w/b16. I would like to tubo that more than my CL. Nothing runs faster than hatchbacks w/motorswaps just because of the power to weight ratio. Ill tell you what, it would cost you a bit more than 4k to build a turbo system w/h22 setup. Something thats actually reliable and operates efficiently anyways. My CL is my daily driver for now until my Civic is finished. You will find that even a regular OBD1 Prelude H22 has a good amount of power to start with on its own. I realy dont understand why our cars came with that shitty single cam motor.
Yes thats very true. I like all motor Hondas alot and if I ever sold the car I would probably keep the type-R motor and put a regular H22 in it. I want to get an EK civic and put my type-R in it. That setup will run 12s all day. I have a 91 si civic w/b16. I would like to tubo that more than my CL. Nothing runs faster than hatchbacks w/motorswaps just because of the power to weight ratio. Ill tell you what, it would cost you a bit more than 4k to build a turbo system w/h22 setup. Something thats actually reliable and operates efficiently anyways. My CL is my daily driver for now until my Civic is finished. You will find that even a regular OBD1 Prelude H22 has a good amount of power to start with on its own. I realy dont understand why our cars came with that shitty single cam motor.
I don't like the h22 in civics, motor is too heavy. I prefer the bseries. Seems to fit the handling better.
08-14-2003, 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by Mark Davison
Yes thats very true. I like all motor Hondas alot and if I ever sold the car I would probably keep the type-R motor and put a regular H22 in it. I want to get an EK civic and put my type-R in it. That setup will run 12s all day. I have a 91 si civic w/b16. I would like to tubo that more than my CL. Nothing runs faster than hatchbacks w/motorswaps just because of the power to weight ratio. Ill tell you what, it would cost you a bit more than 4k to build a turbo system w/h22 setup. Something thats actually reliable and operates efficiently anyways. My CL is my daily driver for now until my Civic is finished. You will find that even a regular OBD1 Prelude H22 has a good amount of power to start with on its own. I realy dont understand why our cars came with that shitty single cam motor.
Yes thats very true. I like all motor Hondas alot and if I ever sold the car I would probably keep the type-R motor and put a regular H22 in it. I want to get an EK civic and put my type-R in it. That setup will run 12s all day. I have a 91 si civic w/b16. I would like to tubo that more than my CL. Nothing runs faster than hatchbacks w/motorswaps just because of the power to weight ratio. Ill tell you what, it would cost you a bit more than 4k to build a turbo system w/h22 setup. Something thats actually reliable and operates efficiently anyways. My CL is my daily driver for now until my Civic is finished. You will find that even a regular OBD1 Prelude H22 has a good amount of power to start with on its own. I realy dont understand why our cars came with that shitty single cam motor.
but yeah i know it would cost alot more than 2G's to turbo, you get the point though. for 3G you could have the kit, but then you still gotta build it. So gay, i wish we could run turbo's on stock internals and be fine!
I wish i had enough cash to ditch my single cam right now, but i don't. Time for another JOB!
08-14-2003, 12:49 PM
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Yea, it would be nice with a turbo but high compression motors arent set up for forced induction. You want low comp. like 9.5:1. I could swap the pistons out but this motor like all type-Rs is fully balanced from the factory. I mainly bought this motor because of the transmission and type-R goodies. If you really think about all the internals and the intake manifold stuff this motor has, shit, you will spend 4k just getting a regular h22 up to type-R status.
08-14-2003, 01:18 PM
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hey mark what are you running in the 1/4. Man if you turbo your bitch it would be sooo hot! damn i wish i had cash like you guys i cant wait till next summer when my car is kinda pimped out..lol
08-14-2003, 03:05 PM
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im procrastinating on swaping my JDM h22a into my car. personally, the euro-r motor is a nice one, but given how much more it costs... it's really not worth it. the H22 type S is good also, but a regular JDM H22a with the typeS cams and a remapped and tuned ECU is still a much better bang for the buck.
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08-14-2003, 03:47 PM
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i'd take the regular H22A and put new internals in it hte minute it would arrive. You'd save money over the S and R and have more power
i'd take the regular H22A and put new internals in it hte minute it would arrive. You'd save money over the S and R and have more power
08-15-2003, 07:49 AM
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Big Block DOHC Type-R
Thats just kickass guys, I hope I got you all excited about swapping that turd of an F22 out for something actually has serious potential. I hope you all build your motors and bring them to So. Cal. where Im at. I'll be lurking on a dark steet corner waiting for H22 CL's to come get some! I should have my fuel press. reg. and cam gears done soon then I'm having my car dyno tuned w/hondata through all the gears. So, yea, BRING IT!
08-15-2003, 11:16 AM
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Big Block DOHC Type-R
Yea, 5k is a sucky deal, bring that thing to me, if its an OBD1 motor I'll have that thing done in one weekend wireing and all for like $500 bucks. This motor swap is easyer than you think.
08-15-2003, 12:51 PM
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you also have to look where he's located guys. HI. There probably isn't much competition out there so they can charge up the ass. OUt here in so cal prices are ALOT cheaper then they are in places like the midwest.
08-15-2003, 03:16 PM
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You could hook up a USDM Prelude H22 and it should pass smog. As long as you hook everything up(knock sensor, EGR, ect.) and you are using the P13 ECU. You might even get away with running a P72 GSR ECU. They both run using the same duel butterfly setup in the intake manifold. Most smog places do a visual check before they tell you they can smog it. Some places might notice that there is not a F22 or F23 motor in there and tell you noway.
01-09-2004, 07:03 AM
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bringing this thread back... so mark still willing do to the install for 500?
perhaps I'll have a week where I can bring the car by... ur only ~80 miles from me.
EDIT: like many I am really contemplating the h22 swap... but I need more research but prices look great on ebay and the like.
perhaps I'll have a week where I can bring the car by... ur only ~80 miles from me.
EDIT: like many I am really contemplating the h22 swap... but I need more research but prices look great on ebay and the like.
01-09-2004, 11:24 AM
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Actually, my cherry picker and other tools are at my friends house in Hesperia so we can do the swap there. Just make sure you bring everything w/oil, radiator fluid, tranny fluid, and axles. It will be done in one weekend.
01-09-2004, 01:21 PM
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thanks mark... won't be happening for at least a couple of months if it is to happen... gotta do some more research. I think I wanna keep my stock transmission, not sure though. Plus gotta get other stuff. Good to know though. I'll let you know if and when it could happen, thanks.
01-09-2004, 02:24 PM
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ok so the:
1995 JDM h22 is 190hp@151 ft./lbs. torque?
1997 USDM h22 was only 190 hp@151 ft./lbs. torque?
2001 Accord Euro-R is 220 hp@163 ft./lbs. torque.
or are the h22's really crank out 200 hp?
so the USDM h22 will pass smog as you said and in california will be legal if it is year of car or newer... so the USDM h22 cranks 190hp instead of 200?
1995 JDM h22 is 190hp@151 ft./lbs. torque?
1997 USDM h22 was only 190 hp@151 ft./lbs. torque?
2001 Accord Euro-R is 220 hp@163 ft./lbs. torque.
or are the h22's really crank out 200 hp?
so the USDM h22 will pass smog as you said and in california will be legal if it is year of car or newer... so the USDM h22 cranks 190hp instead of 200?
01-09-2004, 03:04 PM
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Jdm motors are rated at 200hp not 190. I just had a 91 Integra w/jdm b16 swap smogged and it passed. It's legal to have a jdm motor in your car, it just has to be set up all stock w/all the smog shit on it. It has to be a motor that is your year or newer though. My motor would smog but I have no cat, a nonsmog header and an I dont give a fuck attitude. I get illeagal smogs when I need anyways.
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