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hybridnrg 09-21-2006 06:14 PM

Exhaust Noise Level Test (Cali Only) F.Y.I.
 
If you guys didnt know that if you get a ticket for your exhaust for excessive noise, you can get it corrected...but most people will just put the stock or other exhaust on. If you know that your exhaust does not go above the legal limit like mine then you can go to a BAR (Bureau of Automotive Repair) Referee center to get it tested. I got a ticket coming out of my school, the cop said that my exhaust was "too loud" I presented him with the document from the exhaust company. This is the the CHP website....

Q13 Some aftermarket exhaust systems include documentation that the system has been tested and found to meet the requirements of Section 1036(d)(l), 13 CCR. Are those legal?

The CHP does not have the resources to independently verify manufacturer's claims, but is aware that some aftermarket exhaust systems do meet the noise levels specified in Section 1036(d)(l), 13 CCR. An officer may consider such documentation in evaluating an exhaust system for excessive noise, both during the issuance of a citation and when clearing a citation pursuant to Section 40610(b)VC.


But he didnt care, so he wrote me the ticket anyways. Its okay because i know i can go to the testing center and get it wrote off. This is just a info for those that have exhaust that meet the legal terms yet still get tickets. F.Y.I. legal limit in California is 95dbA (+/- 1.5dbA) he said that even getting 96dba is ok. Just call the number 1-800-622-7733 its a free testing only if you got a ticket, so you have to get a ticket first if not then you have to pay for the testing....duh.

Anyways my Tanabe tested at 92dbA

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...rentin/BAR.jpg

my car getting tested, and my friend Audi in the back.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ntin/sound.jpg


Some Readings:

Vehicle Exhaust Noise Level Certification

SEMA


Exhaust section codes
http://www.vfaq.com/BADSM/CHP-Exhaust.html

Palayah8ta 09-21-2006 06:20 PM

wow... good info.. I always get upset when people on Harleys never get pulled over and there exhausts are always 2wice as loud as even the worst ricers..

5-speed 09-21-2006 06:23 PM

:brakejob: got :owned: , good work

zguy95135 09-21-2006 06:25 PM

Is your interior black?? I've never seen a primrose with black before.

NauTiC* 09-21-2006 06:27 PM

wow 92dba is loud?

Sounds like popo was trying to hit his quota.

Palayah8ta 09-21-2006 06:28 PM

hey are there a lot of testing centers?

h2o-pr00f 09-21-2006 06:29 PM

Nice one brent, today I almost got rolled on. :cop: got off the freeway exit with me and was behind/next to me in my lane for what seemed like a 5min red light. He kept trying to look inside my car, and couldnt. Finally I roll my windows down and as I go 1st gear is loud as shit, he followed me all the way until I pulled in to school, I thought my time had come

NauTiC* 09-21-2006 06:29 PM

Your friends A6 is mean.

agranado 09-21-2006 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by h2o-pr00f
Nice one brent, today I almost got rolled on. :cop: got off the freeway exit with me and was behind/next to me in my lane for what seemed like a 5min red light. He kept trying to look inside my car, and couldnt. Finally I roll my windows down and as I go 1st gear is loud as shit, he followed me all the way until I pulled in to school, I thought my time had come

fuckin dick cops.. should go do their jobs instead of eating shit :shakehead:

hybridnrg 09-21-2006 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by zguy95135
Is your interior black?? I've never seen a primrose with black before.


yeah well its called "charcoal" but looks black to me...lol Maybe its because i have a premium model?

hybridnrg 09-21-2006 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by Palayah8ta
hey are there a lot of testing centers?


Seems like only 2 in the LA area...one is at this College in the Valley and on in Downtown LA.

hybridnrg 09-21-2006 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by NauTiC*
Your friends A6 is mean.


yeah we are going to have a photshoot soon, so keep an eye out for them soon.

hybridnrg 09-21-2006 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by NauTiC*
wow 92dba is loud?

Sounds like popo was trying to hit his quota.


well 92dba is at 4000rpm...when i was maybe driving at 5 or 6k so it might have "sounded" louder.

PimpCL23 09-21-2006 09:34 PM

ima photoshop my own info on that shit!!! LOL!!!... actually i dont have a need too... still got the stock exhaust on that bitch

starboy2nv 09-21-2006 10:47 PM

lol ur car farts loud thehehehe.... lol

LacViet 09-21-2006 11:35 PM

Good info! Yeah, years ago when I got loud exhaust ticket on my Accord, I went to court and use the same law and argument about how the cop knows if the exhaust is above 95db without using any measurement device. Listen by ears are not valid under the court of law. Nevertheless, cop=0, me=1 :D

hybridnrg 09-22-2006 12:51 AM


Originally Posted by LacViet
Good info! Yeah, years ago when I got loud exhaust ticket on my Accord, I went to court and use the same law and argument about how the cop knows if the exhaust is above 95db without using any measurement device. Listen by ears are not valid under the court of law. Nevertheless, cop=0, me=1 :D


not anymore....the new law is:

(27151CVC) removes the judge from the process by allowing the noise judgement to made purely at the officers' discretion.

and another

In practice, "excessive exaust noise" tickets are the most common violation. California law does not require police to measure sound levels objectively. Instead, according to the California Highway Patrol, the "citation is based on officer's judgment."


so we are screwed no matter what.

PimpCL23 09-22-2006 12:58 AM


Originally Posted by hybridnrg
not anymore....the new law is:

(27151CVC) removes the judge from the process by allowing the noise judgement to made purely at the officers' discretion.

and another

In practice, "excessive exaust noise" tickets are the most common violation. California law does not require police to measure sound levels objectively. Instead, according to the California Highway Patrol, the "citation is based on officer's judgment."


so we are screwed no matter what.

but you can always get it checked off... which, IMO, is a total waste of time, money and effort... the $10 spent for tha ticket coulda went toward 1/3 of a gallon of gas!

hybridnrg 09-22-2006 12:59 AM


Originally Posted by PimpCL23
but you can always get it checked off... which, IMO, is a total waste of time, money and effort... the $10 spent for tha ticket coulda went toward 1/3 of a gallon of gas!


yeah, but its just a pain to go and do something about it...plus all the driving like you said. but isnt there a way we can avoid being pulled over...like a sticker or something that says "i am not rice" or something...lol like your "JDM" sticker.

PimpCL23 09-22-2006 01:02 AM


Originally Posted by hybridnrg
yeah, but its just a pain to go and do something about it...plus all the driving like you said. but isnt there a way we can avoid being pulled over...like a sticker or something that says "i am not rice" or something...lol like your "JDM" sticker.

i dont have it anymore due to a red mustang... anyway.... JDM is just another form of stock! just the japanese version of stock

Cocoa 09-22-2006 01:09 AM

I think mine is well over a 100 decibels, lmao.

Cocoa 09-22-2006 02:13 AM

Jay's Racing exhaust is 116 decibels.

97BlackAckCL 09-22-2006 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by NauTiC*
Your friends A6 is mean.

:nod: That is a sick little audi

agranado 09-22-2006 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by hybridnrg
not anymore....the new law is:

(27151CVC) removes the judge from the process by allowing the noise judgement to made purely at the officers' discretion.

and another

In practice, "excessive exaust noise" tickets are the most common violation. California law does not require police to measure sound levels objectively. Instead, according to the California Highway Patrol, the "citation is based on officer's judgment."


so we are screwed no matter what.

wtf. thats fucking gay! Officers are allowed to pummel your orifice with a nightstick

kraftey 09-22-2006 11:28 PM

I believe this law also is effective in Washington and Oregon, although I'm not sure of the specifics (like the new law of the officer being able to tell just by hearing).

Oregon and Washington always seems to follow the laws of California in some areas (like automotive) :annoyed:

BigLizard 09-23-2006 12:28 AM

LoL, My exhaust is just as loud if not louder than a 1st gen with full exhaust. I know it has to be sitting around 100 dBs. I can't hear myself talk on the phone with the windows down and the revs going up.

-Headers w/custom straight pipes on the axle back. :rofl:

Time For Sleeep 09-23-2006 05:48 PM

Hey Brent,

Do you need to have gotten a ticket in order to get that slip?

I'm scared my comptechs are close to the limit (they're a bit loud); and I'd like to run around with the insurance on it :)

hybridnrg 09-23-2006 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by Time For Sleeep
Hey Brent,

Do you need to have gotten a ticket in order to get that slip?

I'm scared my comptechs are close to the limit (they're a bit loud); and I'd like to run around with the insurance on it :)


Yeah you have to have gotten a ticket before you can go there. You can go to a "off-site" place that you can get it tested, but its like $35.

PimpCL23 10-22-2007 09:11 PM

bump for those that got some exhaust questions

turbo_911 10-22-2007 11:30 PM

lol wow, laws in cali suck

here in pa, nobody cares, well at least in state college
here some ricers put straight pipes from headers without any mufflers, and it sounds sooooo loud, that u can't hear each other when talking and driving at the same time...

hybridnrg 05-27-2009 01:16 PM

Update:

BAR Vehicle Exhaust Noise Level Certification Instructions:

http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResource...evel_Cert.html


Exhaust Noise and the Law of California, USA

http://www.cent-21.com/laws/exhaust-us.htm


another new law not posted above (similar i know):


New law (27150.2 VC) does not require law enforcement to use sound level meters to test for excessive noise. Citation is based on officer's judgment. Cited violators may have testing done at smog referee stations or may be directed by the court to have testing done. Vehicles in violation must be brought into compliance. A fine may also be imposed.

PimpCL23 05-27-2009 09:33 PM

gheyness



well.. basically... if u changed ur exhaust... u better get a decibel test

hybridnrg 05-28-2009 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by PimpCL23 (Post 10944973)
gheyness



well.. basically... if u changed ur exhaust... u better get a decibel test



well it cost $35 to get it tested. Unless you want to wait to get a ticket then its free testing. but thats why its important to stick with name brand exhaust. you know you wont loose power, plus it wont be loud as shit

Josh99CL 05-28-2009 12:41 PM

Apexi WSII go go

incredulous1 05-28-2009 10:31 PM

what if you fail the test and you paid 35$? can you retest for free or do you have to fork out more cash?

hybridnrg 05-29-2009 12:30 AM


Originally Posted by Euro925 (Post 10949107)
what if you fail the test and you paid 35$? can you retest for free or do you have to fork out more cash?

i think you only pay if you pass... because you get a certificate afterwords.

you would have to call them and ask

incredulous1 05-29-2009 12:44 AM


Originally Posted by hybridnrg (Post 10949468)
i think you only pay if you pass... because you get a certificate afterwords.

you would have to call them and ask

mmk. thanks


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