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Old 07-16-2005, 06:33 PM
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brought the car in for a Dyno yesterday

Well, after putting in the type-s cams. I finally brought the car in for a dyno, and to retune the VAFC. Went to Church Automotive Testing in Wilmington,CA. Shawn was a great guy and will probably go back in I ever needed to dyno again.

Well the results were pretty good. The car dyno in at 206 HP to the wheel.

I have the graph on my website. If someone could host it for me that would be great.
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What do 3.0s normally do to the wheels?
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Stock, I believe is usually around 150-160
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good stuff man!
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nice numbers

im pulling i think 199.7 i think
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Good Numbers!!
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doesn't that say to the "fly wheel" rather than to the wheel.....?.....not trying to run anyone down, just wondering why it says that?
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The guy explained it but i forgot, but it's suppose to be more accurate then the ones with the rollers. This one they remove your tire and connect this hub to it. The hub then connects to the dyno machine
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Originally Posted by Cocoa
doesn't that say to the "fly wheel" rather than to the wheel.....?.....not trying to run anyone down, just wondering why it says that?
The company that makes Dynapack is in New Zealand. This dyno type involves removing the wheels and bolting on metal hubs that go into hydraulic load boxes. Appearantly the New Zealanders refer to these metal hubs you bolt on as flywheels. It is not showing the estimated power to what you normally think of as the flywheel in the tranny.
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Originally Posted by xrunner86x
The company that makes Dynapack is in New Zealand. This dyno type involves removing the wheels and bolting on metal hubs that go into hydraulic load boxes. Appearantly the New Zealanders refer to these metal hubs you bolt on as flywheels. It is not showing the estimated power to what you normally think of as the flywheel in the tranny.

mmm......got it.....I was thinking so once he attempted to explain it...
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Sooo, with Type S cams its only an increase of 5hp and 7tq? How much are the cams? (thought they would of had better gains...
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pretty good numbers..
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Originally Posted by Acura3.0CL
Sooo, with Type S cams its only an increase of 5hp and 7tq? How much are the cams? (thought they would of had better gains...

Our HP rating is 200hp to the flywheel. Therefore after taking away power from the motor to rotate all the crap we have in our trannies (which is about a 25% loss)/drivetrain, it comes down to about 150whp stock.

His dyno shows 209whp....making it well over that to the flywheel.

His total gains as of now has been about 49whp with everything. What we dont know is how much he made with the cams alone. We would have needed a dyno before the install of the cams, and a dyno after the install and tuning of the cams to show the actual amount of power it provided alone.

Over at v6performance, it shows to have about 10-13whp gain without tuning.
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Originally Posted by Acura3.0CL
Sooo, with Type S cams its only an increase of 5hp and 7tq? How much are the cams? (thought they would of had better gains...
the cams could be bought from me

I won't need them anymore...
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nooooo.... don't sell them yet, I think I can get them now cocao.
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Originally Posted by ghost_masterCL
nooooo.... don't sell them yet, I think I can get them now cocao.
if you want me to hold on to them again, I can....just let me know...
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ok, so assuming 150 whp stock, that makes a %25 drivetrain loss (damn slushmatics). It's probably between 20-25% anyways. So 206 whp converted to remove driveetrain loss is like 274 engind HP (that's a 74 hp increase over stock), or assuming a 20% loss that makes 257 engine hp (that's a 57 hp increase) just imagine tossing on a 75 shot of nitrous, your engine would be pusshing over 300 hp. :thumsup:

I plan on going that route as well
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soo again, how much does cams add hp wise??
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Originally Posted by Acura3.0CL
soo again, how much does cams add hp wise??
around 10-13whp without tuning....a few people over at v6performance have said 15whp....depends on your mods...
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sweet...how much are they? (can you get any others besides the type s?)
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how much are they?
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Originally Posted by Acura3.0CL
sweet...how much are they? (can you get any others besides the type s?)
nope...the type S cams are the only ones we can get.......but you could also upgrade your J series with a number of things from the Type S. You can also upgrade your throttle body to theirs and bore it out. And then there is the intake manifold you could use as well from the type S. The comptech supercharger is also over looked as a mod for our cars. You can get those for around $2200-$2700 on used on v6performance.net

As for pricing for the cams, they go for $250 (maybe higher, but I got em for 250 awhile back from a member on the boards) brand new at the dealership without the other hardware like gaskets, o-rings, etc......(the price may be higher, it'd be best to just call the dealership and ask for the price on the 01-03 CLS front and rear camshaft)

and then machining them will run you about $130 bucks. You have to get the rear cam machined to fit your distributor, it's the only way the rear cam will fit. The front cam will go in without a problem.
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Originally Posted by Acura3.0CL
sweet...how much are they? (can you get any others besides the type s?)
The cams are pretty cheap itself but the installation is expensive. I got mine installed with the valves adjusted for $350!! I got the cams for $260 shipped at acuraautomotiveparts.com. The whole thing isnt cheap but its worth it.
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The cams are pretty cheap itself but the installation is expensive. I got mine installed with the valves adjusted for $350!! I got the cams for $260 shipped at acuraautomotiveparts.com. The whole thing isnt cheap but its worth it.
I'm guessing you had yours installed by a member of V6performance.net? Because I remember a member was charging that much for the install. I had a shop quote me 800 for the install. But then again, that was only one shop i went to.
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good thing my uncle put it in for me. he did my timing belt, water pump, cam install and only charged me for parts...
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Originally Posted by 99CL
good thing my uncle put it in for me. he did my timing belt, water pump, cam install and only charged me for parts...
yea, i went to go install mine in my garage, took valve cover off, only to see that they weren't in there like they are on four bangers...i was like, shit....and got scared that i'd mess up my timing, so i gave in, and didnt do it....
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what he did with the timing belt was using those yellow paint thingies, he marked three to four points when the belt was still on. THen he took it off and installed the cam. ect...and with the new belt, he matched up those points and marketed it. THen match it back up on the gears. He said that saves alot of time and u won't mess up the timing
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theres already timing marks on the crank, block, and cams which you have to lign up everytime you change the timing belt. plus you have the tensioner to loosten up and reset. its overall not too hard on our cars. i think the cams will be my next mod. cause im gonna be doin my timing belt soon as well as cleaning out my egr port. i cant wait.
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